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Posted on 6/1/20 at 1:04 pm to stomp
Posted on 6/1/20 at 1:04 pm to stomp
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What political ideology does this winner belong to?
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Based on his wife’s claim on Facebook and the go fund me set up for him he was out “fighting for justice in Nashville.”
He likely has not a lot of strong ideologies at all but the few he has appear to lean left.
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Posted on 6/1/20 at 1:04 pm to RollTide1987
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Get the hell out of here with this shite. Kneeling for the national anthem implied systemic racism, which made no freaking sense at that time and makes no sense today.
No, the original purpose for the kneeling was to quietly protest police brutality against black men.
In which the response was the anger and vitriol you have shown here. How dare they.
So it's highly ironic for the same people who hated the fact kneeling was done will say quiet protest should be done when they were against that in the first place.
Lastly, no I don't support the violence or the looting. I own multiple business; I understand and dislike the threat.
However the hypocrisy is alarming and I'm definitely not surprised.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 1:06 pm to stomp
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At what point do conservatives and civil libertarians see Black people's concerns with police overreach as an American civil liberties issue?
They will never.
Ironically the same people will complain about the fears of a police state.... then support police state like justice just as long as it happens to other people that don't look like them.
Then they wonder why those people feel they are hated.
Who wouldn't?
Posted on 6/1/20 at 1:20 pm to stomp
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At what point do civil libertarians see Black people's concerns with police overreach as an American civil liberties issue?
They do, and bring up broad issues with policing quite frequently, including the use of victimless laws like traffic and drug offenses to collect revenue and harass the population as a whole (and blacks disproportionately). The problem is Team Red and Team Blue don't see any real issue.
Team Red doesn't generally care because they love the war on drugs and police in general, and because it doesn't affect them to the same degree. That was starting to change a bit with the COVID lockdowns.
Team Blue only feigns interest on occasions like this one where a white cop kills a black citizen, but it's only to keep their voting bloc in tact. No rational person could acknowledge the stats on drug arrests by race and simultaneously believe that tasking cops with enforcing mask ordinances, more gun control, and a litany of other victimless laws wouldn't ultimately end with the same result.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 1:31 pm to stomp
There are whole organizations dedicated to reforming the system.
There's a Conservatives Against the Death Penalty
There's LEAP
Mises Institute in Alabama has a whole arsenal of literature on how to fix the system.
The fact is the average person is too lazy/disinterested in searching for solutions. They rather wait for some messiah to come in and save them instead of doing the work themselves.
There's a Conservatives Against the Death Penalty
There's LEAP
Mises Institute in Alabama has a whole arsenal of literature on how to fix the system.
The fact is the average person is too lazy/disinterested in searching for solutions. They rather wait for some messiah to come in and save them instead of doing the work themselves.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 1:38 pm to RollTide4Ever
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There are whole organizations dedicated to reforming the system.
There's a Conservatives Against the Death Penalty
There's LEAP
Mises Institute in Alabama has a whole arsenal of literature on how to fix the system.
The fact is the average person is too lazy/disinterested in searching for solutions. They rather wait for some messiah to come in and save them instead of doing the work themselves.
That's because no one does anything without a motive. If you can give people one motive that matters more to a person than his own selfish advantage, you should bottle it. Instant billionaire. And then we'll get you working on this Covid-19 thing.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 1:49 pm to stomp
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What political ideology does this winner belong to?
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He's a Bernie Bro, so I'm going to say that like most Bernie Bros, he's a Marxist who publicly claims to be a democratic socialist because that's more palatable to non-Marxists.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 1:59 pm to stomp
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What political ideology does this winner belong to?
The left. I think I made that clear.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 2:02 pm to stomp
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At what point do conservatives and civil libertarians see Black people's concerns with police overreach as an American civil liberties issue?
Property right are civil rights. All I see are children violating the civil rights of others while throwing a temper tantrum.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 2:03 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:If that's all you see, then your vision is hazy.
Property right are civil rights. All I see are children violating the civil rights of others while throwing a temper tantrum.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 2:08 pm to pvilleguru
Don't worry. They'll keep proving to you that my vision is crystal clear.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 2:14 pm to imjustafatkid
Life comes at you fast nowadays
ETA that is a low income housing unit on fire in case anyone did not know
ETA that is a low income housing unit on fire in case anyone did not know
This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 6/1/20 at 2:17 pm to imjustafatkid
BREAKING: Independent autopsy finds that George Floyd's death "was homicide caused by asphyxia due to neck and back compression that led to a lack of blood flow to the brain."
Just pulled from twitter
Just pulled from twitter
Posted on 6/1/20 at 2:26 pm to Tide or Die87
I’m glad they had an independent autopsy done.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 2:29 pm to Tide or Die87
Boom!
Posted on 6/1/20 at 2:40 pm to phil4bama
There are questionable circumstances where there's two sides to the story, then there are instances like George Floyd and Philando Castille where you can watch on video, two men being senselessly killed by a cop wearing a body cam, recording the whole thing. I don't really see how you can condone or excuse such behavior.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 2:41 pm to Tide or Die87
I think that is the autopsy done by the same guy who did Michael Brown's "independent" autopsy. I think the officer deserves to go to jail, but I would take anything done by that medical examiner with a huge grain of salt.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 2:44 pm to Cobrasize
Up front, that officer is responsible for his death. That's not really a discussion point at all. I don't have a shred of doubt that positional asphyxia was the principal catalyst that triggered whatever led to his cardiac arrest.
With that out of the way, here's a word of warning about 'independent' things like this - they aren't really independent at all. The result is often written before they ever start. For example, in this USA Today story about this incident there's this quote "Police have this false impression that if you can talk, you can breathe. That’s not true."
Makes for a nice press clip - and it also goes against what's taught by every single accrediting first aid course out there (Ashi, Red Cross, American Heart, etc). The Red Cross course has the exact words "if they can speak, they're moving enough air to breathe."
I'll never understand why people come out and say things that are guaranteed to hurt their case down the road.
Edited to add: which is really dumb in this case because Mr. Floyd stopped talking - a clear indication that something was going wrong.
With that out of the way, here's a word of warning about 'independent' things like this - they aren't really independent at all. The result is often written before they ever start. For example, in this USA Today story about this incident there's this quote "Police have this false impression that if you can talk, you can breathe. That’s not true."
Makes for a nice press clip - and it also goes against what's taught by every single accrediting first aid course out there (Ashi, Red Cross, American Heart, etc). The Red Cross course has the exact words "if they can speak, they're moving enough air to breathe."
I'll never understand why people come out and say things that are guaranteed to hurt their case down the road.
Edited to add: which is really dumb in this case because Mr. Floyd stopped talking - a clear indication that something was going wrong.
This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 6/1/20 at 2:46 pm to phil4bama
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There are questionable circumstances where there's two sides to the story, then there are instances like George Floyd and Philando Castille where you can watch on video, two men being senselessly killed by a cop wearing a body cam, recording the whole thing. I don't really see how you can condone or excuse such behavior.
In both cases, the officer involved was charged with a crime. The system is working.
Posted on 6/1/20 at 2:52 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
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Randall Woodfin
@randallwoodfin
I want to share a bit about how to have an effective protest.
Let's follow the lead of the giants who paved the way for us. Let's be better.
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