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re: Protests blowing up in Downtown Birmingham

Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:29 pm to
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3771 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:29 pm to
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okay, then how do you guarantee that there are no bad apples in any given profession?


The same way the DoD doesn't let national security risks get top secret security clearances.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
70536 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:30 pm to
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The same way the DoD doesn't let national security risks get top secret security clearances.




Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
13900 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:33 pm to
Only thing this thread needs now is prevatt33 talking about how things like this don't happen in Costa Rica.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
17202 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:35 pm to
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I was with you until this. It doesn't do anyone any favors for anyone to be arrested and charged before investigation is completed. Not just offenders, but victims also benefit from that process playing out. Rushed investigations lead to no conviction.




I believe the Chief of police for Minneapolis said the crime was so grievous that it was clearly murder. And in this case, he says it was obvious because he saw the murder with his own eyes. Who knew that seeing is believing still works in the executive branch?

Anyway, believe me when I say that if you were with me up till then, you have moved farther and deeper than anything you have been motivated to post about this ugly situation.

There is no rationale for hate. It's not logical to hate what you personally don't know. So talking people out of prejudice is futile because, gee, it's just wrong to hate. That's our education, culture, environment doing all the motivating about people. And rare is the child that ever successfully wrestles those demons once fully cultivated in one's life.

Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3771 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:37 pm to
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It's on you to say "no you can't search my car." If you give them permission, then it's legal for them to do it.


No black person wants to put themselves in that kind of danger. Especially after Philando Castille...
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
13449 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:40 pm to
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Says the people who are paying to see them play football.




Even the ones who don't bother to get their fat arse up out of their seat during the national anthem?
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83884 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:40 pm to
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Jesus, it's like talking to 5 year olds with some of yall. I specifically said protesting. I said nothing about looting or rioting.


Who here said they had an issue with protesting? Everyone is specifically mentioning the rioting and looting.

This is how you protest:





These are real men marching for justice and equality.

This is what you are defending:






These are thugs hellbent on destroying society as we know it.

ETA: I'm sure those two scumbags on the right in the last picture are eternally grateful for George Floyd's sacrifice allowing them to score some free fricking bedding. Absolutely disgusting.
This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 12:45 pm
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3771 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:41 pm to
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This is a lie.


And how do you know this for sure?
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16160 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:41 pm to
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How many white protesters were hurt while protesting their right to go where they want and do what they want during quarantine.


This statement right here shows why the current 'protests' will not only fail to advance the cause they're supposed to be about and instead just make things worse.

Show me the burning buildings and looted stores during those protests against the government covid restrictions. Show me the attacks on media. Show me the assaults on innocent bystanders.

Those are obviously hypothetical requests because despite the protester very often being heavily armed and capable of immense carnage nothing happened.

The civil rights movement of the 1960s was in large part successful because Dr. King understood that you had to be the good guy to win the day. People marching peacefully while getting attacked by dogs, fire hoses, beaten with batons triggered an appropriate emotional response that brought change.

Now contrast that with what you're seeing right now on TV. The terrorist activity (and that's what it is) you're seeing on TV isn't going to bring people to support their cause at all - it will drive them away in droves.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
64066 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:43 pm to
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No black person wants to put themselves in that kind of danger. Especially after Philando Castille...


Hahaha this thread is just full of truly garbage takes.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
64066 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:44 pm to
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And how do you know this for sure?


Everyone knows these people aren't from the right. It's why leftists are setting up bail funds for them.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9226 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:45 pm to
Regarding the actual issue of too many police officers all over the country harassing black people to all degrees with a long history of it not being dealt with by police departments satisfactorily:

I'm going to simply listen to the 95%+ of black folks that say it is a huge problem and then listen longer for suggestions of better ways to address it.

Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105802 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:45 pm to
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I hit the "off" button


Absolutely your right to do, too
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
17202 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:47 pm to
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Awww. Look who believes “peaceful protests” as not so awesome when he considers it coming to his own front door.

It’s all fun and games and gated community parlor talk until they show up in your neighborhood. And if you want to keep believing it’s justifiable peaceful protesting, then I’m going to keep hoping that they show up at your house.

Please, show us that you aren’t a hypocrite when the guy is running down the street with your Possessions.



That's the thing. How do you get the genie back in the bottle? By the look on police and media alike, they are more than concerned about their own health and their beloved infrastructure and their pecking order in it. 40 million people without jobs, folks are not happy to start with. And this punk of cop lights a forest dying for lack of rain.

This country hasn't seen much for protesting in the last 50 years. And I doubt we ever have seen this much social unrest at the same time of a serious ongoing problem with something as serious as Covid-19. The perfect storm.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:47 pm to
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This is what you are defending:




There is not a single post in this thread where I have defended any of that. In fact, I have condemned it.
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3771 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:50 pm to
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Hahaha this thread is just full of truly garbage takes.


Go ask a black person you know if they're comfortable telling an officer "don't search my car" and get back with me.
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3771 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:52 pm to
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Everyone knows these people aren't from the right. It's why leftists are setting up bail funds for them.



What political ideology does this winner belong to?

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Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83884 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:54 pm to
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Go ask a black person you know if they're comfortable telling an officer "don't search my car" and get back with me.


What does being black have to do with anything in this situation?

I'm white and I wouldn't be comfortable telling a cop "don't search my car."

I imagine Hispanic people feel the same way. I mean, take the border states for example. You don't think car loads of Hispanic people aren't immediately suspicious to police due to the drug and human trafficking heavily prevalent in those areas?

ETA: As a matter of fact, who WOULD be comfortable telling a cop "don't search my car?" I can't speak for everyone in my social circle, but I bet most would be extremely uncomfortable in your scenario.
This post was edited on 6/1/20 at 12:57 pm
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
13449 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:57 pm to
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The biggest problem is that the ones yelling about it want more goverment power as the solution. It's a self-fulfilling cycle.


Huh? People just want to be treated fairly. No need to over think shite.
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3771 posts
Posted on 6/1/20 at 12:57 pm to
At what point do conservatives and civil libertarians see Black people's concerns with police overreach as an American civil liberties issue?

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