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re: Playoff and a few thoughts

Posted on 11/27/17 at 5:48 pm to
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 11/27/17 at 5:48 pm to
I don't care if Boz knows somebody who knows somebody or not

Maybe Calvin is a diva

Calling Ridley a quitter is asinine
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16995 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 6:25 pm to
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 don't care if Boz knows somebody who knows somebody or not 

Maybe Calvin is a diva 

Calling Ridley a quitter is asinine


I don't mean he is a total quitter but in that moment he stopped trying his best for his team aka quit. It's not unforgivable but he will have to earn some respect back. I'm not sure if you have coached or played competitive sports but that's a big no no.
Posted by Bama323_15
Member since Jan 2013
2100 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 6:39 pm to
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I don't mean he is a total quitter but in that moment he stopped trying his best for his team aka quit. It's not unforgivable but he will have to earn some respect back. I'm not sure if you have coached or played competitive sports but that's a big no no.


As much as I detest Boz's posting style, (sorry Boz...just my opinion but most on here enjoy your insights...so carry on. ) he is correct here.

The walking to the LOS in that situation is a horrible look. Since I am not an insider nor do I have access to insider info, I have no way of determining if this is isolated behavior or a pattern of behavior.

We all have isolated behaviors/incidents that do not reflect our true character. Patterns of behavior are more problematic of course.

FWIW, those that question if Boz has an in, I am sure he does. Pretty sure he has a friend on the team.

Posted by partsman103
Member since Sep 2008
8090 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 6:44 pm to
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FWIW, those that question if Boz has an in, I am sure he does. Pretty sure he has a friend on the team. 


I just assumed he was the parent of a player and that's how he gets info.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 7:08 pm to
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I don't mean he is a total quitter but in that moment he stopped trying his best for his team aka quit
If you really think that, then you're the quitter because you apparently quit watching the game.

I've already pointed out the big play Ridley made on the very next play. He also streaked down the sideline wide open with his hand in the air a couple plays later while Jalen was taking another sack. Not to mention the next target he got that was a dog shite pass.

Dude was frustrated and trying to win. He never once quit during that game. You should drop this.
This post was edited on 11/27/17 at 7:09 pm
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16995 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 7:37 pm to
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I don't mean he is a total quitter but in that moment he stopped trying his best for his team aka quit

If you really think that, then you're the quitter because you apparently quit watching the game. 

I've already pointed out the big play Ridley made on the very next play. He also streaked down the sideline wide open with his hand in the air a couple plays later while Jalen was taking another sack. Not to mention the next target he got that was a dog shite pass. 

Dude was frustrated and trying to win. He never once quit during that game. You should drop this.


People who walk to the LOS are not trying their best to win. Anyway we can disagree. Have a good one bud.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16995 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 7:38 pm to
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As much as I detest Boz's posting style, (sorry Boz...just my opinion but most on here enjoy your insights...so carry on.?) he is correct here.


That's the nicest rejection I've received thank you for the respect :)
Posted by Bama323_15
Member since Jan 2013
2100 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 8:07 pm to
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hat's the nicest rejection I've received thank you for the respect :)




Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49682 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

I don't mean he is a total quitter but in that moment he stopped trying his best for his team aka quit. It's not unforgivable but he will have to earn some respect back. I'm not sure if you have coached or played competitive sports but that's a big no no.

Could you imagine Julio or Cooper ever doing this? They were team players
Posted by Bamainva40
Member since Nov 2017
1677 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 8:37 pm to
Nope Julio and amari Wouldn't have done that
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
Member since Dec 2010
6925 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 9:05 pm to
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JuiceTerry


FWIW I didn't say that as a condemnation of you or anyone else's objection to Boz' opinion.

Also, IMhumbleO, it looked like Ridley was loafing a bit at first. Then he turned around, saw Jalen telling him to hurry, and quickly sprung to the line.

Frustrated, lack of awareness, considering his route/move options: all possibilities.

Quitter...nah.
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:15 am to
Boz, have you heard anything that may indicate the team may be a bit divided about the qb position? I just wonder because since the Auburn game, you have insinuated a few times that if Tagovailoa is the qb next season, you're good with that. So is that just a personal opinion for you, or have you heard something that indicates it may be better for the team?
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16995 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:35 am to
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Boz, have you heard anything that may indicate the team may be a bit divided about the qb position? I just wonder because since the Auburn game, you have insinuated a few times that if Tagovailoa is the qb next season, you're good with that. So is that just a personal opinion for you, or have you heard something that indicates it may be better for the team?


After the Auburn game, Ridley made it known he thought Tua was a better passer, that is what caused the entire fight/stir in the locker room as Ronnie jumped him about walking around. To the credit of Tua and Jalen, both tried to defuse the situation instead of Jalen getting offended. If I had to guess from that situation there is kind of a divide from at least Ridley and maybe some others in the WR realm. I know Jalen is well liked from the OL, and defensive guys. DH and Bo speak highly of Jalen. But, you never really know unless they make it verbal like Ridley. I have never heard personally ( I am in the locker room time to time) or from any source about any other receivers.

Oh and for the Tua being QB, if we stay in our current system of wanting to keep Pro Style part of it, Tua is absolutely the better choice. If we were strictly RPO I'd give Jalen another look.

And 1 last thing, depending on where we fall in the ranking and when we practice again that will tell me a lot once I see a practice and or get a scoop. They may try something new at that time. It's almost 30 days worth of reps.
This post was edited on 11/28/17 at 8:39 am
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 8:58 am to
Thanks for the info.

Frankly, I don't think that open discord is always a bad thing. It's at least often an honest thing, rather than being a simmering problem that will continue to divide a team from within, with no resolution.

I think all the linemen and others will be fine if Tua is the starter. It's probably my imagination, but sometimes it seems the same linemen block better when he's in the game. Moreover, if some of the wide receivers are unhappy I think you nearly have to give it a chance.
This post was edited on 11/28/17 at 9:22 am
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
7289 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 9:28 am to
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and for the Tua being QB, if we stay in our current system of wanting to keep Pro Style part of it, Tua is absolutely the better choice. If we were strictly RPO I'd give Jalen another look.


Tua would be better at the RPO as well. He can run pretty good and he is a much better passer.
Posted by birdieman
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2012
1647 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:46 am to
I've been a Jalen guy from day 1. Still am. Fact is, he hasn't improved a bit. If we stay with him, we will win a bunch. But we will lose to any team that forces us to pass the ball. It's time to make a change if national championships are the goal.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21693 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:51 am to
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Tua would be better at the RPO


Yeah, I really don't know why people don't think he can run. He was the #1 rated dual threat QB coming out of high school - much higher ranked than Hurts. Even the game announcers say things like, "Oh, look the passing QB is running a little too!" when he goes in. It shows a complete lack of knowledge.
Posted by Culverhouse13
Birmingham, AL
Member since Jul 2014
1406 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:52 am to
Also, when you are a QB who can pass the ball effectively your running lanes are wide the frick open.... just look at Stidham during the iron bowl. Pretty sure Tua is as fast or faster than he is and he killed us and those few runs he had.
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
3135 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:56 am to
We don't do RPO. Not enough to matter. We seem to look like we are doing a west coast style, but there is not enough dink and dunk. It seems to be put 4 in a pattern and let jalen make the read.

Jalen needs to be attacking the edge 50% of the time. RPO, true play action, or the boot game.
Posted by BamaReb
N Carolina
Member since Nov 2017
291 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:14 am to
Do Jalen and Ridley still room together? If Ridley is acting like an arse, maybe that will give Jalen more incentive to LOOK FOR OTHER (wide open) receivers!

They should use Ridley as a decoy for a while...that is IF he decides to play the next game. I could definitely see him electing not to participate in a bowl game...if Bama doesn't make the playoff.

And no, I don't believe he quit, but his attitude needs an adjustment...and that's been showing for more than just this season. Guess I'm just old school...you can get frustrated...just don't show it...wearing your emotions on your sleeves just gets them tugged on.

Go Horned Frogs!!

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