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re: OT: Alabama Coronavirus Thread (see link in OP for case numbers and death totals in AL)

Posted on 5/6/20 at 2:59 pm to
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
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Posted on 5/6/20 at 2:59 pm to
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f those that are high risk want/need to stay in then by all means do so but the rest need to get back to normal.




The problem is the majority fall into that category. In NC I read yesterday 51% of the state falls into that category and that NC was not near the top compared to other states. Not sure we can get back to normal based on that standard.

If they have a way to treat effectively and the demand through the supply chain can be met I think you will see things start to open back up.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/6/20 at 3:40 pm to
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NC High school sports will have a "new normal" until there's a vaccine or treatment for the coronavirus, according to the state health director. High schools haven't run sports in 53 days after all spring sports were canceled. Schools are unsure if sports will even return to campus in the fall, according to the state health director.


It goes on to say non-contact sports should be good to go but contact sports are the concern right now. If the trend continues with reopening phases n the state they think all should return but we are still 3 months outs.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
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Posted on 5/6/20 at 4:08 pm to
New York


Posted by CrimsonShadow
Montgomery
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Posted on 5/6/20 at 4:36 pm to
LINK

New York Health Department Fatalities
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 4:37 pm
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 5/6/20 at 5:18 pm to
Huh, that's pretty weird. It seems to still be correlated with age, but do they ever speculate how those people became infected?
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
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Posted on 5/6/20 at 5:48 pm to
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Huh, that's pretty weird. It seems to still be correlated with age, but do they ever speculate how those people became infected?


Yeah, those rates for the new infections are surprising: 66% infected while mainly staying at home and only 4% of new infections came from essential workers taking subway.

Just a guess that the extremely high percentage of new infections comes down to:

1. There a simply a ton of non-symptomatic carriers

2. It's extremely infectious to older people they may live with, visit, deliver food to or just live in the same apartment building.

This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 7:34 pm
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/6/20 at 7:04 pm to
In NC around 20% of those with it are from nursing homes, another 10% from prisons, and now about 5% from meat processing plants throughout the state.

The federal prison here has the most cases of any in the country.
Posted by JustGetItRight
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Posted on 5/6/20 at 8:47 pm to
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It's extremely infectious to older people they may live with, visit, deliver food to or just live in the same apartment building.


This is the winner right here. Staying home to me means being around my wife, daughter, and next-door-neighbor mother in law. There MAY be 20 people within a square mile of my house.

NYC has 27,000 people per square mile. There's just no way NOT to get repeatedly exposed and eventually one of those exposures will take.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13187 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 5:36 am to
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In NC around 20% of those with it are from nursing homes, another 10% from prisons, and now about 5% from meat processing plants throughout the state.

The federal prison here has the most cases of any in the country.


Meat processing plants in NC now account for over 1000 cases so around 9% of the total. So around 40% of the cases here are in confined spaces.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13187 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 5:48 am to
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This is the winner right here. Staying home to me means being around my wife, daughter, and next-door-neighbor mother in law. There MAY be 20 people within a square mile of my house.

NYC has 27,000 people per square mile. There's just no way NOT to get repeatedly exposed and eventually one of those exposures will take.


This is where the concern will be for reopening. It is not going to be the small businesses but the large manufacturing facilities and schools. Yes younger children are less likely to have it but pose a great risk for carrying it.

Many factories that were allowed to stay open are having a shortage of employees due to them calling in sick or refusing to work due to the virus, understandably so. These manufacturing facilities if not fully staffed will create shortages in the supply chain for many of the items we need on a daily basis. Which will also affect small businesses that reopen.

Travel industry might take the longest to recover because many will not want to fly for leisure. It will benefit regional destinations where I think you will see more people vacationing to places they can drive to. Great for the small locally owned businesses.

I also see if fall sports or other activities that usually have large gatherings at least in the beginning go with no fans. Even the CEO for Live Nation, one of the largest concert promoters, was quoted at saying it might be fall of 2021 before we see live concerts again. Even if fall sports start back and eventually let people in to watch numbers are going to be greatly down.
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 7:37 am to
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I also see if fall sports or other activities that usually have large gatherings at least in the beginning go with no fans.

Agreed, even with things reopening, I just can't see "normal" large gatherings of any type for a while.
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:19 am to
ADPH update from yesterday. Total number of deaths attributable to those under 50 with no underlying conditions is revised down from 2 to 0. Total number of deaths (regardless of underlying conditions) for those under 50 is 11.

Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 2:56 pm to
MeeMaw is mad y'all. I guess someone woke her up from her afternoon nap.

Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83897 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 3:04 pm to
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MeeMaw is mad y'all


She might be, but I don't have a problem with this statement.

$200 million for a new statehouse funded by Coronavirus Relief funds?

Are these people insane?

Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
32897 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 3:38 pm to
Makes me curious to know how many deaths we have had that are due to the shutdown. I am positive that there are folks that might have been able to catch serious problems at their normal doc appointments that were unable to do so as well as the added stress that has pushed people to an extreme and attempt/commit suicide.
Posted by mre
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2009
3126 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 3:45 pm to
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$200 million for a new statehouse funded by Coronavirus Relief funds?

If this is true, then they are absolutely insane.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
22641 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 3:53 pm to
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$200 million for a new statehouse funded by Coronavirus Relief funds?



Yeah, that is pretty ridiculous. I would say that would go over like lead balloon but after the gas tax it’s pretty clear that they really just do whatever they want down there because they know nobody will hold them accountable.
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 3:55 pm
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46214 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 4:01 pm to
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because they know nobody will hold them accountable.


Pretty easy to feel that way when they know that a) their party establishment will discourage primary challengers and b) their constituents would rather jump off a bridge than vote for someone from the other party.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
23199 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 5:21 pm to
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MeeMaw is mad y'all


She should be.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:37 pm to
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I would say that would go over like lead balloon but after the gas tax it’s pretty clear that they really just do whatever they want down there because they know nobody will hold them accountable.
Except the gas tax was actually needed.
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