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Posted by FeralFeral
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 1/18/26 at 6:57 pm to
We must be working day and night in the film room if we made it all the way to reviewing the tape of Idaho State's fourth best WR
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
26871 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 6:57 pm to
Hate he’s headed back to Tennessee. Anything that weakens them I like.
Posted by BamaDragon
Cullman
Member since Nov 2012
175 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 7:00 pm to
I hate orange.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
29697 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 7:08 pm to
Nobody cares.
Posted by Panthers4life
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2017
5112 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 7:51 pm to
So this what I learned today.

Nothing.

Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
8774 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 8:07 pm to
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Mac Jones won't be the last ever first time starting QB to win a title in the history of the sport.


Agreed, because statistical outliers by definition will happen given enough data points. I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting on a statistical outlier if I were you, but to each his own.


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Bryce almost repeated it the very next year and the reason he didn't had nothing to do with him being a first year starter.


Bryce was a miracle last 2.5 minutes of the Iron Bowl away from not even sniffing the playoffs. All the AU RB had to do was fall down inbounds, and we don’t make the playoffs. He also was very close to losing a few other games to bad teams that year, and all of that was with the GOAT as the coach. He was a lot closer to never making the playoffs in 2021 than he was to winning a NC (short memory Bama fans only remember the 2021 postseason and forget what happened in the regular season).



Here are just a few things that have changed in the short 4 years since Bryce was a first year starter:

1) the number of teams with a 20mm roster has increased somewhere between 500% and infinity/undefined (don’t think there was even a single 20mm roster in Bryce’s day, but maybe 1 or 2)

2) the price tag on individual positions, especially experienced QBs, has increased 300+%

3) the depth at Bama and every other top P4 team has gotten significantly more shallow. 2 and 3 deeps aren’t what they used to be for Bama, UGA, OSU, etc.

4) zero of the 8 teams who made the semis in the past 2 years had 1st year starters at QB

5) 3 of the 4 teams that made the semis this year have never made the semis ever before…2 of the 4 had never even made a playoff before. This wasn’t the case in Bryce’s day when the same 5-6 teams were cycling through the playoffs year after year with 1 outlier from time to time.

6) the team favored by over a TD to win the NC this year was the “losing-est” team in the history of college football prior to their current coach arriving 2 years ago. That kind of turnaround would never have been possible even just 4 years ago.

7) last years NC lost 2 games including a home game to an unranked 7-5 rival before tearing through the playoff field. This year a team playing for the NC was assumed by Vegas to not even make the expanded 12 team playoff before edging out ND who had -1600 odds to make it prior to the announcement. They have losses to SMU and Louisville. 4 years ago, both of those teams would have been laughed at in terms of winning a NC.

I could go on, but it’s actually quite funny to watch a couple posters claim “college football is ruined” out of one side of their mouth and “college football hasn’t changed much since Bryce” out of the other side. They don’t even realize they’re contradicting themselves and it’s great entertainment for some of us who pay attention.
Posted by UsingUpAllTheLetters
Panama City, Florida
Member since Aug 2011
9442 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 8:23 pm to
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it’s actually quite funny to watch a couple posters claim “college football is ruined” out of one side of their mouth and “college football hasn’t changed much since Bryce” out of the other side.
I’m in the “it’s changed a frickton since 2022 and it’s ruined” camp. I’ve seen NASCAR, the NBA, and to an extent, the MLB ruined by bad arrangements between talent, officiating, the executives, and the fans. I’d love to believe that College Football is different enough to survive, but at this point I’ll have to see it first.

ETA: boxing. (Maybe a few more influences on that one. )
Also, I’ve got burgeoning interests in the NFL, F1, and Golf. Old man sports are untouchable.
This post was edited on 1/18/26 at 8:28 pm
Posted by Doug Heffernan
Member since Aug 2017
765 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 8:28 pm to
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He was a lot closer to never making the playoffs in 2021 than he was to winning a NC (short memory Bama fans only remember the 2021 postseason and forget what happened in the regular season).


I agree with just about everything you said but honestly we were very close to winning that Natty. I believe we had the lead in the 4th and shot ourselves in the foot in the red zone all night. BY made plays to win games all year that were closer than the experts thought.
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
8774 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 8:33 pm to
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I agree with just about everything you said but honestly we were very close to winning that Natty. I believe we had the lead in the 4th and shot ourselves in the foot in the red zone all night. BY made plays to win games all year that were closer than the experts thought.


Yes, we were. But we didn’t lose it on a miracle comeback the way we won the IB to squeak into the playoffs. We never should have won the 2021 and 2023 IBs, but it was glorious watching us do it! (And the AU fan’s reactions )
Posted by RollTide33
Member since Sep 2019
4449 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 9:13 pm to
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We never should have won the 2021 and 2023 IBs


Statistically speaking we should have won those games comfortably and only jerdin hair voodoo cow pasture magic turned them into miracles.
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
8774 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 9:26 pm to
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Statistically speaking we should have won those games comfortably and only jerdin hair voodoo cow pasture magic turned them into miracles.


I get this perspective and before the game, sure, you could say that.

However, once we have around a 98+% chance of losing a game, there’s no other way to describe the win but a miracle that probably shouldn’t have happened. We could play both of those situations over again each year for the next 100 years and possibly not see a win in any of our lifetimes. The fact that it happened in back to back road games is absolutely insane.
This post was edited on 1/18/26 at 9:27 pm
Posted by FightingOkra
Member since Oct 2024
308 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 9:32 pm to
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Agreed, because statistical outliers by definition will happen given enough data points. I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting on a statistical outlier if I were you, but to each his own.



But that statistical outlier is likely to come from a team that routinely brings in elite high school QBs in recruiting. Keelon is the highest ranked recruit we've ever signed, Jett Thomalla is a top 5 QB recruit, and we're in pole position for #1 QB Elijah Haven next year. If we keep it up it increases our chances of being that team that wins it all with a 1st year starter.
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
8774 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 9:42 pm to
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But that statistical outlier is likely to come from a team that routinely brings in elite high school QBs in recruiting. Keelon is the highest ranked recruit we've ever signed, Jett Thomalla is a top 5 QB recruit, and we're in pole position for #1 QB Elijah Haven next year. If we keep it up it increases our chances of being that team that wins it all with a 1st year starter.


That’s true, but we don’t know if that statistical outlier is a 1/10, 1/25, or 1/100. Even if it’s 1/10 (which I doubt), we would have to hope that we are guaranteed to be the 1 outlier just to win a NC once every 10 years.

In reality, we’re probably one of 3-4 teams with 1st time starters trying to compete in a given year (see OSU, Texas, and UGA just this year) so even if the outlier is 1/10, we’d be hunting a once in a 30-40 years outlier for Bama.

I’d rather just start a more experienced QB as many years as we can make it happen.
Posted by Woody4daTide9
Member since Sep 2022
1374 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 9:42 pm to
I have to assume our staff has evaluated thousands of players and attached a numerical value to each and that’s what decides our path.
These college GMs are, at some point, auditioning for pro gm jobs
Posted by FightingOkra
Member since Oct 2024
308 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 9:52 pm to
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I’d rather just start a more experienced QB as many years as we can make it happen.


I get what you're saying but we don't really have the money to score a top portal QB. And even if we did Sam Leavitt, Brendan Sorsby, Drew Mestemaker, DJ Lagway, and Dylan Raiola are the top 5 QBs in the portal and honestly I'm not really impressed with any of them. I'd rather roll with Keelon and hope his talent rises to the occasion.
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
8774 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 10:02 pm to
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I'd rather roll with Keelon and hope his talent rises to the occasion.


I’m fine with rolling with Keelon as long as we keep him 2 years and people set reasonable expectations for his 1st year (the reasonable expectations won’t happen).

However, I’d have rather kept a projected 1st round draft pick that loved Bama, we absolutely could have afforded, and threw for 3500+ yds, 28 TDs, only 5 INTs, all while being injured and having zero running game. That was definitely something we could have done, but didn’t.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
14923 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 10:10 pm to
I am ready to roll with Keelon and take whatever happens . Our last two QBs have cost us a game or two each year , so let KR learn on the job
Posted by FightingOkra
Member since Oct 2024
308 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 10:11 pm to
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However, I’d have rather kept a projected 1st round draft pick that loved Bama, we absolutely could have afforded, and threw for 3500+ yds, 28 TDs, only 5 INTs, all while being injured and having zero running game. That was definitely something we could have done, but didn’t.


Miami offered Ty 6.5 million dollars and he turned it down. He knows that this year's weak draft class makes him an almost guaranteed 1st round pick. If he stayed at Bama he'd be contending with a much stronger draft class next year. He'd have been stupid to stay no matter what we offered him.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11877 posts
Posted on 1/18/26 at 10:36 pm to
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However, I’d have rather kept a projected 1st round draft pick that loved Bama, we absolutely could have afforded, and threw for 3500+ yds, 28 TDs, only 5 INTs, all while being injured and having zero running game. That was definitely something we could have done, but didn’t.


How do you figure we would keep Ty? He made $800k after incentives kicked in with Bama. Miami was offering the kid 6 & 1/2 million dollars and Tennessee was not far behind. I’m grateful the guy stuck around this long and waited for his turn, and I’m glad he’s going pro instead of going mercenary. The kid is a class act who bleeds Crimson and that should never be forgotten or taken lightly. But he would have been foolish to turn down that kind of money if he chose to stay in college and I’m not sure we could get close enough to Miami’s offer to make it a difficult decision. That’s just the cold, hard, unpleasant truth.
This post was edited on 1/18/26 at 10:37 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
64258 posts
Posted on 1/19/26 at 12:13 am to
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We must be working day and night in the film room if we made it all the way to reviewing the tape of Idaho State's fourth best WR


Definitely feels like a deep cut. I don't think I'd ever heard of Idaho State before today.
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