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Posted on 1/17/18 at 10:24 am to
Posted by Chancellor
BHam
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 10:24 am to
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Saban is really pushing for Freeze to be an on-the-field coach, The Tuscaloosa News has learned. Others in the program don’t want that happening.


Who are these people in the program who "don't want that happening?" Boz, any info?

They need to be out, as far as I'm concerned.

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How much autonomy Saban has in this particular situation is unknown given Freeze’s recent history with the NCAA.


And given Saban's entire history with Alabama football and his unprecedented success and reputation, it is unimaginable that he doesn't have full autonomy over his own program's personnel decisions.

Coach Saban's record speaks for itself. If anyone stands in the way of him making his own decisions about his staff, they need to be shown the door.

If he gets in a situation where he is second-guessed or prohibited from making the best decisions by others in the AD, then he may retire sooner rather than later. That doesn't need to happen.

I can't believe Saban's autonomy over his program as it regards others at the University or in the program is even in question.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 10:27 am to
Likely compliance, but I don't know that for sure. But they have every right to be cautious.
Posted by BleednCrimson02
BIRMINGHAM
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 10:27 am to
I agree. If Saban wants Freeze to be the OC, then Freeze will be the OC. Anyone who questions Saban, or refuses his requests, will be looking for another job. He's the best coach of all time and we are lucky he's at The Capstone. We don't have to understand why he makes the decisions he does, but they usually seem to work out just fine for us. 5/9 national championships is just ridiculous.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 10:27 am to
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Who are these people in the program who "don't want that happening?"

I'm sure there are many in the administration. Could be Byrne. Could be the president or someone on the board.

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And given Saban's entire history with Alabama football and his unprecedented success and reputation, it is unimaginable that he doesn't have full autonomy over his own program's personnel decisions.

Agree. I'm sure if he REALLY wants this, he'll push for it and make it happen, but Coach Saban is also a smart man and he knows which battles to fight and which ones to let the other side win (could be Sankey he lets win here). Either way, it is looking increasingly like Freeze will have some type of role on O in 2018.
Posted by Sebastian
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 10:30 am to
Per Suttles, Sankey is not in support of a Freeze hire.
Posted by South Alabama Tide
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 10:38 am to
Karl Scott officially hired
Posted by Culverhouse13
Birmingham, AL
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 10:41 am to
Saban vs Sankey. Dis gon b gud.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 10:45 am to
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I can't believe Saban's autonomy over his program as it regards others at the University or in the program is even in question.



This isn't about X's and O's. It's about a slimy personnel decision which can bring NCAA and recruiting scrutiny. Saban is the greatest college coach of all time, but that doesn't mean he should have free reign to just do ANYTHING he wants.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 10:48 am to
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Per Suttles, Sankey is not in support of a Freeze hire.


I'm sure he isn't. He's worried it would be a PR nightmare for the conference and that Freeze would have to answer uncomfortable questions at every press conference, media days, etc.

However, Saban doesn't allow assistants to talk to the press and he only allows coordinators to do so in SECCG or Playoffs. If Freeze is a position coach, he'd never be in front of a microphone at Bama, which is good for Sankey. Also, if ANY school in the conference has the equity in the bank to make a position coach hire of Freeze, it would be Bama.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 10:49 am to
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This isn't about X's and O's. It's about a slimy personnel decision which can bring NCAA and recruiting scrutiny. Saban is the greatest college coach of all time, but that doesn't mean he should have free reign to just do ANYTHING he wants.


EXACTLY THIS.

He is as good as it gets, but Alabama has a massive compliance department in place for a reason. That's a culture you want to create.

Saban won't be here forever, and with those checks and balances in place there's not a void left when Saban retires. That kind of void after Bryant is how Alabama got its self in bad situations in the 1990s.

And as great as Saban is, he can't be on top of everything at all times. It takes a village.

But this is all probably moot, considering Sankey and the SEC won't sign off on it.
Posted by biggsc
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 10:55 am to
From Aaron Suttles:
From Suttles Tidesports/TNews

The latest with Alabama, Hugh Freeze, and the coaching staff
By Aaron Suttles - January 17, 201827 0
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Last Monday, Alabama won a national title. Since that time it’s been fast-paced and a little hectic inside the Mal Moore Building, which houses the football offices. In other words, Nick Saban has not been content to bask in the afterglow of the title. It’s quite the opposite actually. Saban has been driven since that time, interviewing and meeting with coach after coach after coach as he remakes the Alabama coaching staff. Here is the latest.

Freeze attack

Earlier this week, I reported that former Ole Miss coach Hugh Freeze had been in Tuscaloosa and at UA to meet with Saban. Saban respects Freeze’s offensive mind, and given the fact Ole Miss gave Alabama fits during Freeze’s tenure it’s easy to see why. So what would Freeze’s role be if Saban hired him? It’s a great question and one that, as of Tuesday morning, hadn’t been settled upon yet. Saban is really pushing for Freeze to be an on-the-field coach, The Tuscaloosa News has learned. Others in the program don’t want that happening. How much autonomy Saban has in this particular situation is unknown given Freeze’s recent history with the NCAA. Another aspect to this is that should Alabama decided to hire Freeze as an on-the-field coach, it would likely need the blessing of SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey. Sankey isn’t keen on that happening, The Tuscaloosa News has learned. At the moment, Mike Locksley appears to be in good position to land the offensive coordinator job, but nothing is certain. Normally the offensive coordinator works with the quarterbacks. Locksley is currently the wide receivers coach. As you can see, there are lots of moving parts at the moment and that speaks to how much Saban wants to or is open to shaking up the staff. Chris Weinke could be a candidate to coach wide receivers or quarterbacks should he get an on-the-field position. Freeze could do either, too, if he gets the nod. Freeze could also end up as an analyst, which is what most people are speculating as the most likely result. Again, right now things are moving quickly and nothing is decided.

More moves

Tight ends/special teams coach Joe Pannunzio will be moving to an off-the-field position, The Tuscaloosa News has learned. Pannunzio has been out on the recruiting trail this week, but I’m told this move is going to happen. Alabama has hired former Texas A&M coach Jeff Banks to be the special teams coach. Karl Scott, an assistant coach at Louisiana-Lafayette, has interviewed for a position on the defense. (AL.com was first to report this Tuesday morning). That hire is not official as of the moment, but it could be at some point during the day.

Shaking it up

As I previously reported, Saban wasn’t content to go into another season with the status quo. Recruiting is driving most of these decisions. Saban wants assistant coaches who will work hard to continue to bring the best talent in the country to Tuscaloosa. With recent SEC coaching changes, the competition for that talent is getting cutthroat. This is one of the most tumultuous offseasons I can remember during the Saban era in terms of the coaching staff. It’s moving fast and furious. And it’s not over yet.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 10:58 am to
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According to FootballScoop, Louisiana Lafayette defensive coordinator Karl Scott is “set to be hired” by Alabama. FootballScoop does not specify the role Scott will have at Alabama, only citing sources indicating a hire is set to be made.


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Posted by biggsc
Member since Mar 2009
34777 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 11:03 am to
Any connection to Saban per before?
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/17/18 at 11:05 am to
Scott was a GA at Delta State with Pete Golding. They coached together at Tusculum and Southeastern Louisiana.

Given that Golding is new at Alabama as well, it is interesting that he seemingly was able to vouch for someone he previously worked with. This definitely gives credence to the belief that Golding will be co-DC.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 11:06 am to
I think Saban should consult Ms Terry about whether it's a good idea to hire Hugh Freeze. I don't think it is. Freeze is a repetitive cheater, whoremonger and liar, all while posing as a devout Christian. It would tarnish the image of the program and university, and would not sit well with players' and recruits' parents. There are plenty of good coaches he can hire that aren't shitstains. Jmo.
This post was edited on 1/17/18 at 11:45 am
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
22009 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 11:06 am to
Saban must really love Golding
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
20390 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 11:17 am to
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Saban must really love Golding


He does, he has impressed everyone even though he was doubted straight out of the gate. So like I had said before it looks like Tosh and him will be Co DC. I am thinking and haven't heard any different this morning that Freeze will be on the field along with Lock. Hearing Lock will get more money. It's unfolding slowly but I will pipe everything I hear right here.
Posted by doghouse_4x4
Tidewater, Va.
Member since Dec 2013
1328 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 11:21 am to
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whoremonger


Ain't nothing wrong with that.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46196 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 11:21 am to
Honestly, I just want us to hire Freeze in an on field capacity for the wild conspiracy theories that will come from down on the bayou.
Posted by BamaBo7
Madison,MS
Member since Jan 2017
5927 posts
Posted on 1/17/18 at 11:21 am to
Couldn’t agree more.. this would not be a good move. I could stomach Kiffin, because a prick is all he was and is. Freeze brings a new level of trouble.. posing as a Christian to cheat in recruiting.. Southern families and mothers don’t go for that. I know he will never be welcome at my high school.. and I talk with many other coaches in Mississippi and it’s the mutual feeling all around.
This post was edited on 1/17/18 at 11:23 am
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