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re: NCAA votes to allow athletes to profit off likeness

Posted on 10/30/19 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 10/30/19 at 3:45 pm to
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3 downvotes... not 1 consequence explained. ¯\_(?)_/¯




Because they are pretty damn obvious and I'm not going to sit here and type shite out to a frickhead who will just ignore them.

Might as well go frick around with LSU fans if that's what I felt like doing.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22702 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 3:46 pm to
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For years, the NCAA has refused to let their slaves


Go frick yourself as well.

I bet you real slaves didn't cheer when they were auctioned off.

You are a piece of shite.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22702 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 3:49 pm to
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At least it will be in the open.


How does that make anything better? All that's going to happen is people will say "Well they pay for it". Then people will be pushing for a cap, then everyone gets cap and then...under the table for extra.

That is until the sport dies off because nobody will care about it anymore.

Pretty damn sad. College football is going to kill itself like Nascar did.
Posted by ATLabama
Member since Jan 2013
1602 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 4:16 pm to
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Pretty damn sad. College football is going to kill itself like Nascar did.


Well, if there was any doubt you're a baby boomer - you've pretty much erased it.

Big overreaction. Just because you won't watch it anymore, doesn't mean others will follow suit.

So long as they are still student-athletes, meaning - they are both a student and an athlete (compensation be damned!), I'll still support the Tide.
This post was edited on 10/30/19 at 4:17 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22702 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 5:47 pm to
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Well, if there was any doubt you're a baby boomer - you've pretty much erased it.

Big overreaction. Just because you won't watch it anymore, doesn't mean others will follow suit.

So long as they are still student-athletes, meaning - they are both a student and an athlete (compensation be damned!), I'll still support the Tide.


Then you must be at the age where you think you know everything without any real life experience.

It was easy to see nascar was fricking up, and it's easy to see college football is fricking up. Hell might as well just go to 8 game playoffs while we are in the process of ruining the greatest sport in the country.
Posted by bamabonners
North Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
2091 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 9:01 pm to
What about other sports? Just wait till the left gets involved.... all these other sports will want to get paid too. Unfortunately, nobody is paying to see tennis team players or women’s basketball. So, it won’t be considered “fair”. Now, they’ll have to provide a minimum to all student athletes.... yep... welcome to the downward spiral.
Posted by mre
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2009
3090 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 9:07 pm to
As long as NIL rights aren't being provided by the University, Title IX won't be implicated, provided that women athletes have the same ability to license their NIL rights.
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 10/30/19 at 11:01 pm to
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Go frick yourself.




Well exuse me for not wanting to compare college athletics to slavery...
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3705 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 11:08 pm to
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Because they are pretty damn obvious and I'm not going to sit here and type shite out to a frickhead who will just ignore them.

Might as well go frick around with LSU fans if that's what I felt like doing.



I'm not closed minded enough to be stuck on my own opinion. And yes, there are risks and drawbacks (just like with any legislation). I just want to hear what people think they may be if they claim they exist. You can't just say "this is gonna ruin the sport" without explaining how.

IMO, the biggest risks is to recruiting. There's no real way to allow Mr. 5 star QB to make money off his name while simultaneously telling him he take bids to sign.

The real solution was to allow athletes to receive money to escrow account that could be paid out after eligibility is exhausted. But the NCAA kept their head in the sand too long and here we are.
This post was edited on 10/30/19 at 11:09 pm
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
13243 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 5:56 am to
Well, you hit one for sure. Recruiting will be greatly affected and I am not sure how it will be regulated . Nobody is naive enough to think that “under the table” recruiting isn’t going on now. However , the goal of the NCAA is to have some resemblance of parity throughout its member institutions . We have haves and have nots now but it will get substantially worse with open bidding on players . How can a school in Starkville, Ms compete with COLUMBUS, Ohio or sone of the Big Ten cities or yet alone Los Angeles, Ca? I just don’t see how it can work . Players could transfer at will if they are not getting endorsement deals or whatever ....
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3705 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 7:15 am to
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Well, you hit one for sure. Recruiting will be greatly affected and I am not sure how it will be regulated . Nobody is naive enough to think that “under the table” recruiting isn’t going on now. However , the goal of the NCAA is to have some resemblance of parity throughout its member institutions . We have haves and have nots now but it will get substantially worse with open bidding on players . How can a school in Starkville, Ms compete with COLUMBUS, Ohio or sone of the Big Ten cities or yet alone Los Angeles, Ca? I just don’t see how it can work . Players could transfer at will if they are not getting endorsement deals or whatever ...


The hope I'd have is if they do this, they'd have to be very detailed with the wording of the legislation. They'd also need to tighten up the transfer rules.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
14187 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 7:33 am to
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The real solution was to allow athletes to receive money to escrow account that could be paid out after eligibility is exhausted. But the NCAA kept their head in the sand too long and here we are.


How is this all on the NCAA? I haven't heard a workable solution yet on how you can guarantee a level playing field.
The only wise thing they could do at this point is to keep idiot state legislators from making up the rules about what compensation for likeness actually entails from state to state. So while California may have opened the floodgates, it's still up to the NCAA with the help of Congress to regulate the materialism associated with big business.

The NCAA, Congress and Big Business, what could go wrong?
This post was edited on 10/31/19 at 7:34 am
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26964 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 11:22 am to
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I.E. Oregon has been terrible most of its history but what if Phil Knight opens up the checkbook to feature Oregon players? Suddenly kids don't want to play for legendary Nick Saban they want to get paid by Phil Knight.


When all the other 127 schools remove every garment with the Nike logo from their athletic departments...even their campus stores...you won't have this problem any more.
This post was edited on 10/31/19 at 12:10 pm
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26964 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 11:24 am to
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But playing football isn't what they are getting paid for.


I get that, but should the the student receive money if they bring embarrassment to the university? What if he's caught breaking the law, or fails a drug test? Should the university withhold the money at a rate equal to the PR damage it costs the University?


The university won't be paying them. The car dealership, or whatever, will be paying them.
This post was edited on 10/31/19 at 11:25 am
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26964 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 11:56 am to
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If all the Tuscaloosa businesses aren't currently reaching out to 5* recruits and promising them deals, then they need to be shut down.





I doubt that any Tuscaloosa area business would tell you that it would have been a good business decision to promise Tyler Love a pile of money.

Any Knoxville business that would have promised Bryce Brown a pile of money would have ended up being laughed out of town.

Now maybe if the offer is contingent upon performance...being named All-SEC first team, second team, etc...that might work.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26964 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 12:03 pm to
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I just think things would work better that way. Most get paid when the job is done.
Also, why not spread the money evenly among the entire team? Afterall, it's a team sport. RBs can't do anything w/out a line blocking. WRs can't catch a pass w/out someone delivering the ball.



Title IX prevents everything you just said.

If the local car dealership wants to give Tua $100,000, the US Department of Education has zero jurisdiction over that.

If the Univeristy of Alabama takes $100,000 from the car dealership and gives every football player a share, the US DOE absolutely has jurisdiction over that. Alabama just gave a cash benefit to a guys team that was above and beyond what they gave the girls.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50516 posts
Posted on 10/31/19 at 2:55 pm to
Going to be sad to watch college sports slowly descend from greatness.

I expect supporters of this decision to never make the connection.
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