re: Nada

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Joseph Bulovas's autograph

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I would probably go for two better player's autographs.

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I never said I thought autograph signings was a good idea.

I don’t know who Damien Smith is, but plenty of guys have jobs. Not washing dishes...it’s usually something that goes with their degree and studies. You and I just don’t know about it.

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Like seriously some of you have no clue about what players go through but want to be experts on the subject.

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So where did you go? I went to bama on an athletic scholarship. Would love to hear what school gave you all this insight.

you don't understand math or you live in San Fran if you think $45 million dollars can't pay 80 more salaries. Yes I am aware of how football supports other sports, but it doesn't have to be that way. I'm worried about this sport dying, and not adapting to a new world won't make things better.

I have read your posts for awhile and have to believe you are a troll. You seem to intelligent for this to not be a troll. If you can’t see the problem this would cause you would have to either be ignorant or hate college sports.

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you don't understand math or you live in San Fran if you think $45 million dollars can't pay 80 more salaries. Yes I am aware of how football supports other sports, but it doesn't have to be that way.

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What you're obviously not aware of is Title IX, if you think it's only 80 salaries.

I agree that players should earn something because no matter how you slice it they are being exploited with very few being able to cash in anywhere close to what the college is on their name.

And before some self righteous poster replies that they are student athletes please don't because they are recruited to play football not be a student. If so there would not be academic waivers, sliding scales, and other exceptions given to them like the actual student there just wanting a degree. When they are required to meet the same entrance standards as the non athlete then we can use the term student athlete.

In regards to boosters and autographs it would be no different then right now. You would be amazed how many top HS recruits have figured how to sell their HS autographs and items to boosters of programs that help get them to sign. Any athlete can list these items and there are sites out there for it not just the eBay's and boosters are using it to pull them to programs.

So let them earn it off their name with jersey's and other apparel, posters, etc. sold by the university so the player gets a royalty per se and put it into a trust with the stipulation once you graduate you gain access to it. Only official items licensed by the college so there is a control in place. Those that get drafted before graduating can give it back to the scholarship program. Those that do not graduate, get kicked off the team , transfer, etc forfeit their share.


This would also get around Title IX as it can be done for every sport but if it does not sell there is no violation. When it does both the sport and athlete benefit.

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you don't understand math or you live in San Fran if you think $45 million dollars can't pay 80 more salaries.

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I’m not sure where you’re getting your numbers or if you realize that there are schools located in places like San Francisco, but title IX dictates you’d have to pay men AND women.

500 student athletes per school on part time salaries making $15,000 is $7.5 million a year.

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Hey, uhh, I’m a literal expert on it. Student athletes have jobs. Not work study jobs, either. It’s tough to do, especially time management wise, but plenty of them do it. Especially those who have actual degree tracks and are looking at life beyond professional sports.

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Yeah and I lived it.

Anothet thing to note, stop quantifying this discussion by using the broad term of "student athletes".

Most of these have the time because their sport isn't as demanding to their time.

Football is far different. If you're a key player or starter the time you have to put in during the season is significant. You have to come in and watch film yourself. You have to attend all team and individual meetings. The only way I got out of practice was my redshirt senior year due to late classes I had to take in order to graduate and we still had to come to practice, dress and complete it.

There is literally no time for yourself during the fall.

During the winter dependent on the staff and schedule (I experienced coaching change) winter and spring workouts can be early morning or afternoon.

Usually I took more hours during the spring to make up for taking only 12 to 14 during the fall.

Financially I was always broke. I had teammates who were on food stamps (I never participated due to family being against it.. I badly wanted to though). All we had were stipend which went non-existent if you live off-campus and work study. You couldn't maintain an actual job because you really wouldn't have the ability to give consistent hours as a football player.

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I live in Seattle so yes I understand that there are schols there my cousin went to Med school there. I was talking about the COL differences. That is just one source. so yes even with a thousand student athletes they could pay everyone. 4,500 is a big deal to a student but not that much to a department that makes 147 million yearly.

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at using Alabama's bottom line as the example.

Here's where you miss the point. For the sake of round numbers, assume $10 an hour (you have to pay the same as for any the student), 20 hours a week, 36 weeks a year, 300 athletes.

That's over $2.1M a year.

Now you think that may not seem like much for Alabama. But for schools like The Citadel...where the $500,000 check Alabama wrote them for the game last week was equal to almost half of their ticket revenue for the year, yeah, it's a helluva lot. Many schools make little to no profit at all.

Your original post said this:

"with all the science coming out about CTE it seems like if we don't start paying people they won't take the risk and football will start to die off."

and your thread title says this:

"When will players get the money they deserve?"

Now you've shifted to arguing that players should be paid a menial, minimum wage paycheck. You really think a $10/hour paycheck would make a college football prospect say, "I'm not going to risk injuries by playing college football unless you pay me $200 a week"? That's just comical.

You've kept shifting the goalposts since the beginning of the thread, and your points keep getting rebutted.