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re: Lets face it. Penn State job might work Better for Deboer.

Posted on 11/21/25 at 2:09 pm to
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
15882 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 2:09 pm to
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Has there been any smoke or rumors about Day jumping to NFL?


He's previously coached in the NFL (QB coach with the Eagles in 2015 and QB coach with the 49ers in 2016) so he's had a taste.

He's also only 46, so I feel like at some point his ego will drive him to take a HC job in the NFL. Based on how difficult and time consuming it is to deal with NIL, the portal, etc., I just don't think we'll see many college HC lifers. Sure, the salaries aren't as high in the NFL for HCs, but the QoL trade-off plus the prestige of being an NFL HC must be enticing.

But to answer your question, I don't know of any specific smoke or rumors but a quick internet search shows that anOSU fans melt quite frequently about the possibility
Posted by Lucky_Stryke
central Bama
Member since Sep 2018
2969 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 2:22 pm to
I would think Day would be one of the top guys to make the jump to the nfl. I really think Day just benefits from a soft schedule and huge NIL. He maybe aware of that himself and realize he essentially has it made where he is.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20050 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 2:24 pm to
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This is message board rumor horseshite.

You can laugh all you want, its a fact.

Why do you think he wasn't even considered when Saban stepped down?

Posted by Kcstills17
Member since Nov 2017
12415 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 2:28 pm to
If deboer leaves we will be hard pressed to be in a better situation. Let’s stop entertaining this bs rumor anyway
Posted by Chancellor
BHam
Member since Oct 2017
3369 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 4:06 pm to
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You can laugh all you want, its a fact.


Oh, I am laughing and I’m going to continue to laugh. It’s not even remotely fact. It’s horseshite that you read on a message forum- here and/or elsewhere- and that you’ve heard repeated from others who also read it on a message forum and was spread to other message forums and has been repeated a million times, so it has the appearance of confirmation.

But, it has no basis in fact. None. Nada. Zip. Zilch. Zero.

Message forums are not a good indicator or fact, in most instances. For the last week, LSU fans have thought Kiffin was a done deal for them and a press conference or announcement was due later in the day… every day since Sunday, and it’s now to the point that they’re staking people at airports and speculating about what Kiffin’s son’s headphones could mean. And so had UF. All based on message board horseshite “sources”- mostly people making up shite which snowballs.

That’s what has happened, here, and you fell for it. You’re not the only one. You won’t be the last.

Now, there may be (and probably are) some boosters who don’t like Kiffin and don’t want him or who don’t think he’s a good coach (or, maybe, they had those feelings in the past). Of course. There’s people on this forum with the same opinion. Everybody has an opinion.

But, the internet claims that Kiffin railed some big-name booster’s wife and burned bridges with the University, and/or that no booster will ever support hiring him is message board horseshite. That is fact. Those claims are not true, now, and they never were true.

You dont have to believe it or even like it. Feel free to downvote me into oblivion. Still, that will remain the fact.

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Why do you think he wasn't even considered when Saban stepped down?


Hell, I was under the impression from reading this board and others that it was because there was only one man alive who had ever beaten Dan Lanning twice and Steve Sarkisian. That’s been the prevailing wisdom.

There are myriad reasons why coaches are considered or not considered. The public is also generally not privy to all considerations for many, many reasons.

But, please, feel free to define “considered,” and then link me to a direct statement from Greg or a UA representative or official that 1.) Lane wasn’t considered and 2.) that he wasn’t considered for the reason you stated. We’ll wait.

This post was edited on 11/21/25 at 4:42 pm
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
7446 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 4:11 pm to
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s there less heat there and could Kalen win some championships there? Probably.


You honestly think Penn State would be happy with 9-4 and 'almost' making the playoffs every year.

They fired a guy who who's team, was a few plays from the semifinal game of the playoff last year.
Bring in Kalen to go 9-4 and everything is just peachy?
I don't think so.
And all this "noise" about fans being angry and blah, blah, blah. Well, honestly, the big donors and the people who run the program don't give s flying frick what Elma from the Bibb County Walmart checkout line thinks.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
4666 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 4:14 pm to
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Well, honestly, the big donors and the people who run the program don't give s flying frick what Elma from the Bibb County Walmart checkout line thinks.


Shhh, you will spoil Elma’s illusions of significance.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20050 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 8:12 pm to
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Oh, I am laughing and I’m going to continue to laugh. It’s not even remotely fact. It’s horseshite that you read on a message forum- here and/or elsewhere-

It’s not.

It’s direct word from people who cut checks that matter.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20050 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 8:15 pm to
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But, please, feel free to define “considered,” and then link me to a direct statement from Greg or a UA representative or official that 1.) Lane wasn’t considered and 2.) that he wasn’t considered for the reason you stated. We’ll wait.

They put out feelers to Sark. Sark had interest because of family stuff that was going on but decided to stay.

After that Lanning was a nonstarter due to the unique buyout situation at Oregon.

The two serious candidates were DeBoer and Norvell, both of whom had supporters but DeBoer was the primary target from the moment Sark was out.
Posted by Chancellor
BHam
Member since Oct 2017
3369 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 8:49 pm to
Sure, sure.

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It’s direct word from people who cut checks that matter.


It's direct word from a message-forum-nobody who said it's a direct word from somebody (conveniently unidentified) who matters so they would appear to be some kind of insider.

... repeated ad nauseam by you and others so much that people believe it was actually a thing simply because they've heard other people repeat it.











But, it's just made up shite on a message board.
This post was edited on 11/21/25 at 9:28 pm
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20050 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 8:59 pm to
Do you have evidence from any reputable person at Alabama indicating that Lane Kiffin was considered for the position when Saban retired?
Posted by Chancellor
BHam
Member since Oct 2017
3369 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:02 pm to
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They put out feelers to Sark. Sark had interest because of family stuff that was going on but decided to stay.

After that Lanning was a nonstarter due to the unique buyout situation at Oregon.

The two serious candidates were DeBoer and Norvell, both of whom had supporters but DeBoer was the primary target from the moment Sark was out.


No link to anything Greg said about who, specifically, he considered or did not consider, huh?

Just repeating more stuff we all know or think we know from reading it on message forums.

I knew that would be the case.

Posted by Chancellor
BHam
Member since Oct 2017
3369 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:26 pm to
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Do you have evidence from any reputable person at Alabama indicating that Lane Kiffin was considered for the position when Saban retired?


I don't have any evidence from any reputable person that he wasn't considered to some degree (however small the consideration).

And neither do you.

There's a big difference between considered and targeted as well as varying degrees of each. But, that's irrelevant. Even if he weren't at all considered (none of us know), there could be various other reasons for it that are not indicative that your horseshite rumormongering is legitimate.


You and others keep repeating that Kiffin has "burned his bridges"- "napalmed," them even . And he will never be HC at Alabama because NONE (your word) of the boosters or money people will ever support hiring him. The reason (alleged) behind this is because Kiffin fricked some booster's or BOT member's wife (booster or BOT member- it's been told numerous different ways).

That's message board horseshite. It's myth. It never happened. Ever.


This post was edited on 11/21/25 at 9:30 pm
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20050 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:31 pm to
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No link to anything Greg said about who, specifically, he considered or did not consider, huh?

If you think I’m posting specifics on a public message board you’re a fool.

But you can get as salty as you want. It’s public record that Kiffin wasn’t even on the list for the job.

Sark got a call. He talked about it during a gameday interview. Why didn’t Lane?

Why was Lane so fired up for the Bama game for years after leaving?

Who has the juice to keep a candidate of that caliber off the list? It’s basically Byrne, Saban, a short list of donors and probably the board of regents.

And it’s not like it was just an Alabama thing. Go talk to connected Tennessee people about his time in Knoxville. The guy was completely out of control and couldve faced serious legal issues if they hadn’t swept his escapades under the rug.
Posted by PuertoRicanBlaze
Book Board Admin
Member since Apr 2024
6764 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:36 pm to
quote:

Has there been any smoke or rumors about Day jumping to NFL?


After what Ohio State fans put the poor guy through (before winning the NC of course), I wouldn't blame him one bit for getting the hell out of there.
Posted by Chancellor
BHam
Member since Oct 2017
3369 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:42 pm to
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If you think I’m posting specifics on a public message board you’re a fool.


Of course. You're not going to post any specifics because you have none.

quote:

It’s public record that Kiffin wasn’t even on the list for the job.


You didn't say anything about being on a list. Your claim is that he wasn't even considered in order to make a list.

If it's public record that Greg never even considered Lane for the job, then posting a link to him saying that should be the easiest fricking thing you can do, today.

You don't know who Greg considered behind closed doors. You only know (or think you know) who made the final list of people he targeted or to whom he reached out.

Still, it's irrelevant. I'm not claiming he was considered or targeted or that he wasn't.

quote:

And it’s not like it was just an Alabama thing. Go talk to connected Tennessee people about his time in Knoxville. The guy was completely out of control and couldve faced serious legal issues if they hadn’t swept his escapades under the rug.


I don't know who what he did at Tennessee.

But, I DO KNOW that the rumor that he fricked some prominent booster's wife is bullshite message board rumor and is nothing more than that.




Let me show and prove to you how full of shite you are.

Would you agree that the whole "Kiffin-has-burned-his-bridges-and-will-never-be-the-head-coach-at-Alabama," claim is based on the widespread rumor that Kiffin fricked some prominent booster's wife or BOT member's wife?
This post was edited on 11/21/25 at 9:50 pm
Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
9071 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:45 pm to
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Some of you are just as bad as the LSU fans

Post of the day. Folks need to calm the freak down. Most fans realized the team is better as the season moved has moved on. Not great, but better than most others in the SEC, let alone the country.

And I can't imagine those years before Saban again -

Ray Perkins... 32-15-1
Bill Curry... 26–10 overall
Mike DeBose... 24 wins and 23 losses
Mike Shula... 26-23 overall
Dennis Francione... 17-8
Gene Stallings 70 wins and 16 losses

Let DeBoer cook.




Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20050 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 9:47 pm to
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And neither do you.

Only the articles from ESPN and the Atlantic explaining it in detail citing sources and explaining who was involved.

Norvell talked about getting feelers.
Sark talked about getting feelers.

Lane hasn’t. Because it didn’t happen.

quote:

And he will never be HC at Alabama because NONE (your word) of the boosters or money people will ever support hiring him.

Yup. That generation of donors and stakeholders will have to step back before he ever gets an offer.

quote:

there could be various other reasons for it that

You mean like personal and professional issues that would disqualify someone from being considered? Yeah.

The guy left on bad terms from every major job he’s ever held and you seem incredulous that the same issues he’s had everywhere he’s been could’ve possibly taken place in Tuscaloosa and are taking it quite personally that it would prevent him from getting a head coaching job at the #1 job in college football while all the same people who were involved then are still making hiring decisions now.
Posted by Chancellor
BHam
Member since Oct 2017
3369 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:04 pm to
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Only the articles from ESPN and the Atlantic explaining it in detail citing sources and explaining who was involved.

Norvell talked about getting feelers.
Sark talked about getting feelers.

Lane hasn’t. Because it didn’t happen.


Again, your claim was that he wasn't even considered- not that he wasn't on the list or wasn't targeted or tat he didn't receive an offer. And you have no evidence that he wasn't at least considered.

Regardless, I never said he was or wasn't considered. I'm just pointing out that you don't know, either. You may think you know who was offered or on a list, but that's not the same thing.

After so many of these responses, I'm not sure you grasp the differences in the meaning of words or can follow the conversation.

Further, you asked me if I had some evidence to present from a reputable person at Alabama. I responded correctly that I did not and neither do you, and your response was that you read it the Atlantic who had cited unnamed (anonymous) sources.

Just damn.


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And he will never be HC at Alabama because NONE (your word) of the boosters or money people will ever support hiring him.

Yup. That generation of donors and stakeholders will have to step back before he ever gets an offer.


And you've spoken to all of them and interviewed them all regarding their feelings on the topic?

Of course, not. You're making claims you can't possibly know first hand, nor even second hand. You're just repeating bullshite you've read on message boards. Stop it.

quote:

there could be various other reasons for it that

You mean like personal and professional issues that would disqualify someone from being considered? Yeah.


Again, I'm not sure you have the ability to follow the conversation.

I said there could be reasons for him not being considered (if he wasn't; neither of us knows) that did not legitimize your message board rumormongering.

And your response was, "Yeah, you mean like the same rumormongering?"







OFFER STILL STANDS

quote:

Let me show and prove to you how full of shite you are.

Would you agree that the whole "Kiffin-has-burned-his-bridges-and-will-never-be-the-head-coach-at-Alabama," claim is based on the widespread rumor that Kiffin fricked some prominent booster's wife or BOT member's wife?
This post was edited on 11/21/25 at 10:10 pm
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
28478 posts
Posted on 11/22/25 at 5:11 am to
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This is message board rumor horseshite.


Like the story about him supposedly screwing a bigtime booster's wife. That's such obvious bullshite. In a program like ours, in a small town like Tuscaloosa, if this actually happened, one of these posters who supposedly has a connection would have given us a name. Everyone would know who it was. Yet we have some morons on this board who actually think people can actually keep a fricking secret about stuff like that.
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