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re: Just paid for my 2017 season tickets (plus a kings ransom for FSU tickets)
Posted on 3/6/17 at 4:06 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Posted on 3/6/17 at 4:06 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
How would playing Duke be any worse than playing Kentucky or Oregon this year? If we beat a team like a Duke, that's a program building win. If we lose, it's just another loss even if it's by 30+ points.
When you're an average team, playing good teams in good environments helps recruiting.
When you're an average team, playing good teams in good environments helps recruiting.
This post was edited on 3/6/17 at 4:09 pm
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Posted on 3/6/17 at 4:08 pm to remaster916
Yep, with 2 teenage girls I reached the point where Tide Pride got to be too prideful. I was in the Crimson club level I think when I gave it up about 3 years ago. Between the "donation", the season ticket package (! had 4 seats), the 'neutral site game" and the bowl game, I figured it up and it was approaching the cost of a decent used car. That senseless. Don't get me wrong, I love my team. But I'm not independently wealthy or have a business I can write them off with either. It got to be too much.
And I've bitched till I'm blue in the face about the neutral site vs. home and home on other boards and all I ever get is a small vocal minority who's with me and the rest of the board shouting us down that this is what Saban wants, it's good for the program, yada, yada. News flash, bitches: we ARE the program. Without the fans, you're no different than UAB. So how about showing us a little respect and giving us a voice? And bless him for what he's done, but this program is bigger than Saban too whether he knows it or not. And if he can't still recruit without us playing in Atlanta or Dallas every year, then we've got bigger problems. There was a time we needed it. We don't anymore. They are just addicted to that revenue stream. Well suck it up and deal with it, because you can't be the team involved in one forever. The day will come when we go 8-4 again. Do you think everyone will want to see Alabama open the season the year after that happens? Especially if Team X is the hot brand at the moment? Better start weaning yourself off of that now while it's still by choice and schedule some decent home and homes.
And I've bitched till I'm blue in the face about the neutral site vs. home and home on other boards and all I ever get is a small vocal minority who's with me and the rest of the board shouting us down that this is what Saban wants, it's good for the program, yada, yada. News flash, bitches: we ARE the program. Without the fans, you're no different than UAB. So how about showing us a little respect and giving us a voice? And bless him for what he's done, but this program is bigger than Saban too whether he knows it or not. And if he can't still recruit without us playing in Atlanta or Dallas every year, then we've got bigger problems. There was a time we needed it. We don't anymore. They are just addicted to that revenue stream. Well suck it up and deal with it, because you can't be the team involved in one forever. The day will come when we go 8-4 again. Do you think everyone will want to see Alabama open the season the year after that happens? Especially if Team X is the hot brand at the moment? Better start weaning yourself off of that now while it's still by choice and schedule some decent home and homes.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 4:17 pm to remaster916
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Those P5 teams usually want a home and home. For Bama that means good money for when they have the home game, but no money when they travel. As opposed to 4-5 million per year for neutral site game.
Yea, and at some point they need to consider the fact that fans are getting to the point what that "$4-5M" they get from a game vs Wisconsin in Dallas is not worth pissing off their base because they literally NEVER see a big OOC game at home.
Home and homes are fine. We can do home and homes twice a decade and do neutral sites the other 6 times. We won't go broke.
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Bama was suppose to play a home and home series with Michigan St in 16 and 17. Would you had rather Bama play Michigan St twice like that or play USC last year and FSU this year.
Honestly? I'd rather play Michigan State in Tuscaloosa and a return game in East Lansing. I'd rather play TCU/Virginia Tech/Washington in Tuscaloosa and return to their stadium than USC/FSU/Texas/Michigan in neutral site games every year. Home and home games against historical football programs are awesome. Oklahoma, UCLA and Penn State were tons of fun. We literally never get those anymore, and basically everyone else does. It sucks.
This post was edited on 3/6/17 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 3/6/17 at 9:28 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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I'm getting cold sweats thinking about our basketball team playing in Cameron Indoor. That would get way out of hand
No different than playing Kentucky at Rupp. Imagine playing Duke in Coleman though. That would be a marquee home game and would be huge for the program. Would give it a huge platform in the time of year where Basketball is an afterthought. Let's at least leverage our football capital to help basketball if we are hellbent on playing them.
But I'm almost at the point now where I'd rather have a home and home with Michigan State than have another neutral site game in Dallas or Atlanta against a blue blood or top P5 program like FSU. Bring some OOC excitement back to BDS. Scheduling Duke in Atlanta is a joke.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:35 am to FairhopeTider
Everything that is done for Alabama football these days is for the coach or for the school or for the players or for the program. And 95% of the time, that is right and it's Ok. But name me one fricking thing that has been done for the AVERAGE fan in the past 25 years. Not the Brombergs or the Drummonds or the Bryants, Joe Six Pack and his family that supports you in more subtle but important ways than writing a 7 figure check. We are a microcosm of what the elite programs are becoming: ESPN's and the 1 percenter's bitch. This is a dangerous road we are traveling down at breakneck speed with no signs of stopping. Makes you really appreciate the North Dakota States and the Jacksonvilles and the Samfords of the football world.
The Alabama vs USC or Nebraska or Penn State or even a program like Illinois home and home series is the very fabric of college football and it's one of the things that makes the sport great. You get to see things on campus that you don't see in Dallas or Atlanta: a perfect example is The Grove at Ole Miss. That's the experience fans want, not some damn sterile NFL stadium, even if it's a palace like Jerry World. It's just not the same experience. I'll take a home and home with a shitty power 5 team like Kansas over another neutral site marquis game every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
The Alabama vs USC or Nebraska or Penn State or even a program like Illinois home and home series is the very fabric of college football and it's one of the things that makes the sport great. You get to see things on campus that you don't see in Dallas or Atlanta: a perfect example is The Grove at Ole Miss. That's the experience fans want, not some damn sterile NFL stadium, even if it's a palace like Jerry World. It's just not the same experience. I'll take a home and home with a shitty power 5 team like Kansas over another neutral site marquis game every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 8:43 am
Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:46 am to remaster916
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Would you had rather Bama play Michigan St twice like that or play USC last year and FSU this year.
Would rather have the home and home. I don't care to ever go to Dallas, and I will go to the new Atlanta stadium in the next year regardless.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 9:31 am to phil4bama
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The Alabama vs USC or Nebraska or Penn State or even a program like Illinois home and home series is the very fabric of college football and it's one of the things that makes the sport great. You get to see things on campus that you don't see in Dallas or Atlanta: a perfect example is The Grove at Ole Miss. That's the experience fans want, not some damn sterile NFL stadium, even if it's a palace like Jerry World. It's just not the same experience. I'll take a home and home with a shitty power 5 team like Kansas over another neutral site marquis game every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
100% agree. Playing a historical big program from a different place that brings fans and their band...... It's just fun. As are return trips.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:36 am to phil4bama
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But name me one fricking thing that has been done for the AVERAGE fan in the past 25 years.
They don't give a shite about the fans. Haven't since they implemented Tide Pride. If you keep buying tickets from them despite that, it's on you. Only way you'll ever get their attention is for people to stop going to football games. That's not gonna happen anytime soon as long as we're winning. Plus with the TV contracts and Tide Pride commitments, they get their money regardless.
I said a long time ago I'd do all I could to not give a dime directly to the Athletic Department. I don't mind financially supporting the smaller revenue sports, but screw giving money to the football program. There are plenty of tickets on the secondary market, usually below face value.
I've become severely jaded with college football and how money hungry it has gotten, and my alma mater is as much to blame for that than anything. Yeah, it's nice to have all these recent championships and a nice home stadium, but has it been worth the costs? I honestly don't think so, but can only speak for myself. The crowds and demand for tickets obviously tell a different story.
/end of rant. Roll Tide, I guess.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:58 am to The Spleen
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Yeah, it's nice to have all these recent championships and a nice home stadium, but has it been worth the costs?
Yes because every other fanbase is going through similar things. It's not like we're the only team that plays a ton of neutral site games and has raised ticket prices. Would you honestly rather be Tennessee and be paying a ton to watch a mediocre team?
The success of the football team has greatly improved the university also. The positives greatly outweigh the negatives.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 12:35 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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Would you honestly rather be Tennessee and be paying a ton to watch a mediocre team?
As jaded as I am, I really no longer get much joy when we win, nor much disappointment when we lose. That's easy to say when we're not a middling program like Tennessee, but even towards the end of the Shula years I'd grown a bit disenchanted.
I know I'm in the minority, and a lot of my feelings are more about the overall landscape of college football than Alabama specifically. I just can't ignore Alabama's contributions to the system that has lead to my jadedness.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:20 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I've just come to accept that Bama won't do any more home and homes in the Saban era. Disappointing, but easy tradeoff to make for the privilege of having Saban.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:26 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Bama is way past due for home-away series with legitimate college powers. The Dallas and Atlanta neutral site games aren't as appealing as a trip to USC, Texas, ND, etc.
FSU in Tallahassee then Tuscaloosa or vice versa would be great.
FSU in Tallahassee then Tuscaloosa or vice versa would be great.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:32 pm to bbeck
At least give us neutral site games in new locations. Going to Dallas and Atlanta has gotten old. Let's play somewhere like Denver, Seattle, Boston, etc. I'll even be ok with not having as many fans as the other team. At least it's something new.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 1:58 pm to pvilleguru
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At least give us neutral site games in new locations. Going to Dallas and Atlanta has gotten old. Let's play somewhere like Denver, Seattle, Boston, etc. I'll even be ok with not having as many fans as the other team. At least it's something new.
There's just one problem with that scenario. Everything Saban does is calculated. So we play in Dallas and Atlanta for two reasons: one is the obvious recruiting angle. The second is because both places are playoff sites and Atlanta of course, hosts the SECCG. He wants his players in familiar territory come playoff time. Think about it. Orlando has hosted a kickoff game, but we haven't played in it. It's a great area for recruiting but it's not a playoff site.
So while I don't disagree with you that different locations would be nice if we insist on the neutral site games, until they have one in Phoenix, Miami, or Pasadena, Saban probably won't go and isn't interested.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 2:08 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I would think (or at least hope) that a lot of people would want to go to a city like San Francisco or Seattle or Chicago or New York because how often does Bama play there? It would be an awesome sight and experience, especially if it's against another blue blood. I know I'd try to go.
I know we're talking about cost and all, but it would be nice to see us in a bowl that's not either in Louisiana or Florida every year.
I know we're talking about cost and all, but it would be nice to see us in a bowl that's not either in Louisiana or Florida every year.
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 3/7/17 at 3:22 pm to phil4bama
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The second is because both places are playoff sites and Atlanta of course, hosts the SECCG. He wants his players in familiar territory come playoff time
You know who also hosts playoff sites? Arizona, Miami, Pasadena, and San Francisco.
3 of those 4 are also near big recruiting areas. When's our neutral site games in those cities?
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 3/8/17 at 4:56 pm to FairhopeTider
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Its expensive to be a Bama fan. Makes me completely understand why we didn't have a big crowd in Tampa
I understand what you are saying, as a fanbase we def have "big game" fatigue, both in terms of travel time and cost... But if you can't get up for the national championship game... I mean damn, that's as big as they get.
Posted on 3/8/17 at 4:58 pm to IAmReality
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But if you can't get up for the national championship game
Getting up for something is not the same as spending $2,500 for it (after spending $2,500 the year before, and two years before that, and the year before that, etc).
I was out of my mind excited for the Falcons Super Bowl this year. There was zero chance I was spending $5,000 to go.
This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 3/9/17 at 5:40 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I paid for my season tickets this week too.
I didn't get the '17 FSU opener. Spent too much on Bama football last year, Dallas opener and then tix to the semi-final in ATL and then Tampa. Now I'm scrapping up cash for my saltwater fishing this summer.
I didn't get the '17 FSU opener. Spent too much on Bama football last year, Dallas opener and then tix to the semi-final in ATL and then Tampa. Now I'm scrapping up cash for my saltwater fishing this summer.
This post was edited on 3/9/17 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 3/9/17 at 5:48 pm to IAmReality
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I understand what you are saying, as a fanbase we def have "big game" fatigue, both in terms of travel time and cost... But if you can't get up for the national championship game... I mean damn, that's as big as they get.
You going to pay for my ticket this year? I'm not.
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