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re: Jesus is so real guys!! Merry Christmas!!!

Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:34 am to
Posted by LovetheLord
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:34 am to
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I was told that as well, and honestly it always sounded like a cop out to me.


Let’s look at it this way, Spleen. Do you have children? I do. I have had to tell my children that certain things were bad for them and they 100% disagreed with me. Why? Because of their limited perspectives. In my wisdom and experience I discovered some things that they did not know. Heck, they even used logic to justify their positions (good for them) and consequently, they thought the old man was a fool and only trying to deny them having fun or getting what they wanted (like I’m some sort of evil tyrant who enjoys making my children miserable or something. LOL). However, ultimately, their logic was faulty and I knew what was best in a particular circumstance. They could have saved themselves a lot of pain by listening to and having faith in their daddy’s wisdom and his love for them. Ultimately, I showed them their mistakes and how, if they had trusted me, things would have gone much better for them. As a result, they began to trust in a listen to me, even when they did not understand or somethings did not make sense to them.
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 11:02 am to
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because Genesis gives a straight forward account of creation. It speaks of night and day and does so from what would reasonably be read by a person as 24 hour days.


How famous is the opening statement in the bible, "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth?" I mean people with zero interest in the bible know that passage in their sleep.

Isn't it a biblical fact that "creative days" were not mentioned until after that opening statement? Heaven and earth is being described as present and accounted for and everything that comes after, created days, is coming from the perspective of a human, had he been an eyewitness to the events? Which makes perfect sense if God wrote the bible for human understanding to start with.

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On top of that, the Hebrew word Yom, while in a limited number of cases it refers to a period of time, and in others, “The day of the Lord,” in 95% of cases it refers to a definite 24 hour day. Furthermore, in 100% of cases in which a number accompanies the word Yom, ie., the first day (Yom), day refers to a literal 24 hour day. We see in Genesis, “On the first Yom”, etc. The interpretational evidence more than suggests that the reader view the days of Genesi, going back to the first creation as 24 hour days.


From chapter to chapter doesn't the definition of a "day" sometimes change according to God's use of the word?

You mentioned Genesis ch 1 and it specifically mentions 6 creative days. Fact.

In the very next chapter of Genesis ch 2 verse 4, God is summing up his creative works by specifically stating, "In the "day" that God created heaven and earth. Now, he's saying that he did it all in a day. In that, we have to assume God isn't trying to confuse his readers, isn't he using "day" as a random measure of time. Much in the same manner you and I often say "back in the "day."

Isn't it more logical and scientific to appreciate that when God wants humans to understand time, he's extremely specific? As he has been with certain historical events mentioned in the bible and the time humans have been on the earth.

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