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Jalens playoff numbers
Posted on 1/8/18 at 9:16 am
Posted on 1/8/18 at 9:16 am
vs UW 7-14 57 yds 4.1 ypa 0 TD 0 INT
vs Clemson 2016-17 13-31 131 yds 4.2 ypa 1 TD 0 INT
vs Clemson 2017-18 16-24 120 yds 5.0 ypa 2 TD 0 INT
Frankly, we’ve been lucky our defense has been so dominant with these pedestrian QB numbers. We need better production from this position to take some pressure off the defense and special teams. Jalen needs to step it up.
vs Clemson 2016-17 13-31 131 yds 4.2 ypa 1 TD 0 INT
vs Clemson 2017-18 16-24 120 yds 5.0 ypa 2 TD 0 INT
Frankly, we’ve been lucky our defense has been so dominant with these pedestrian QB numbers. We need better production from this position to take some pressure off the defense and special teams. Jalen needs to step it up.
This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 9:31 am
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:27 am to CapstoneGrad06
Sorry this thread is disjointed, but I keep getting interrupted. I’m not trying to beat a dead horse here, I’m trying to see just how “efficient” our limited passing has been. I was hoping that perhaps by greatly simplifying and limiting Jalens options, the passing game was at least efficient, but sadly, it’s not.
I’m focusing on yards per attempt and for the season, it’s surprisingly good, ranking 17th in American at over 8 yards per attempt. But the scary part is how precipitously it drops off against the best teams. Against playoff competition, it drops to around 5 yards per attempt which is among the lowest ypas for bowl teams. A good working average is somewhere around 7 yards per attempt. The 2 yards may not sound like much, but it’s actually pretty big. You expect a dip against better teams, it’s only natural. But ours falls off a cliff to reside among teams that run the triple option. It’s frightening and it highlights our struggles in throwing the ball. Not only are we not getting production from passing, we are getting much poorer efficiency, and a ypa only slightly higher than our yards per rush and yards per play. In other words, against the best competition, we are almost just as well off running the ball every play as attempting to throw.
I’m focusing on yards per attempt and for the season, it’s surprisingly good, ranking 17th in American at over 8 yards per attempt. But the scary part is how precipitously it drops off against the best teams. Against playoff competition, it drops to around 5 yards per attempt which is among the lowest ypas for bowl teams. A good working average is somewhere around 7 yards per attempt. The 2 yards may not sound like much, but it’s actually pretty big. You expect a dip against better teams, it’s only natural. But ours falls off a cliff to reside among teams that run the triple option. It’s frightening and it highlights our struggles in throwing the ball. Not only are we not getting production from passing, we are getting much poorer efficiency, and a ypa only slightly higher than our yards per rush and yards per play. In other words, against the best competition, we are almost just as well off running the ball every play as attempting to throw.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:31 am to phil4bama
Add in his rushing numbers and, if you can, add in the number of times he checked to a successful play, pointed out the blitzing defender so it could be picked up and that resulted in a successful play.
We'd all love a QB to throw for 300+, 2 TDs+, and 0 INTs. However, what we all love more than stats, are Ws.
Jalen's playoff #s: 2 wins and 1 loss all against top 4 competition while doing so as a FR and SO. He lost to a JR QB last year who was tearing up NFL.
Also, for fun, other Bama QB stats in Championship games:
Jay Barker in 1993 Sugar Bowl:
4-13-2, 18 yards, 0 TD (Most important stat - team got W)
Greg McElroy in 2010 Rose Bowl:
6-11, 58 yards, 0 TD (Most important stat - team got W)
We'd all love a QB to throw for 300+, 2 TDs+, and 0 INTs. However, what we all love more than stats, are Ws.
Jalen's playoff #s: 2 wins and 1 loss all against top 4 competition while doing so as a FR and SO. He lost to a JR QB last year who was tearing up NFL.
Also, for fun, other Bama QB stats in Championship games:
Jay Barker in 1993 Sugar Bowl:
4-13-2, 18 yards, 0 TD (Most important stat - team got W)
Greg McElroy in 2010 Rose Bowl:
6-11, 58 yards, 0 TD (Most important stat - team got W)
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:39 am to bamasgot13
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if you can, add in the number of times he checked to a successful play, pointed out the blitzing defender so it could be picked up and that resulted in a successful play.
This board is getting absurd. Big reality check tonight.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:40 am to River_City_Tider
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Big reality check tonight.
meaning?
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:40 am to River_City_Tider
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This board is getting absurd. Big reality check tonight.
Jalen will play like he has every other playoff game and we will either win comfortably because of the defense or be in a dogfight at the end?
I think everyone knows what the reality is.
This post was edited on 1/8/18 at 10:41 am
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:41 am to phil4bama
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I’m not trying to beat a dead horse here
I actually believe you, but, sadly, you have failed in your quest. The dead horse has been beaten.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:42 am to phil4bama
Think you also need to pay attention to the length of field Jalen had in this years Clemson game, which I seem to remember was relatively short, so he is never going to have to big numbers cause we were always starting close to half way.
Not saying I disagree with Jalens production, the number of 3 and outs he has is poor I am sure, but defense is so good that they are only giving him a short field
Not saying I disagree with Jalens production, the number of 3 and outs he has is poor I am sure, but defense is so good that they are only giving him a short field
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:43 am to SummerOfGeorge
So we better have a dominant running game and that defense better be dominant. Otherwise we are toast.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:45 am to River_City_Tider
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So we better have a dominant running game and that defense better be dominant. Otherwise we are toast.
What makes you think Georgia will have a ton of success either ? We are the number 1 defense. Georgia will struggle.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:45 am to River_City_Tider
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So we better have a dominant running game and that defense better be dominant. Otherwise we are toast.
Ok, cool. None of these things are lost on anybody on this board. Every other thread has harped on it for roughly 4 months.
You aren't some prophet sent down from above to remove the wool from the eyes of simpletons.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:48 am to CrimsonBoz
I’m not saying they will. I’m simply saying, assuming Ga. doesn’t turn the ball over, we better hope they don’t score much.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:49 am to River_City_Tider
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we better hope they don’t score much
Yea that'd be a positive
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:50 am to River_City_Tider
They are more turnover prone than we are. So if anything we are dead even on offense with the better Def.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:54 am to bamasgot13
Jalens rushing
UW- 19 carries, 50 yards, 2.6 ypc 0 TD
Clemson- 10 carries, 63 yards, 6.3 ypc 1 TD
Clemson-11 carries, 40 yards, 3.6 ypc, 0 TD
I don’t see it as an equal trade off. That’s just my opinion. I’m not asking Jalen to produce 300 yards and 3 TDs per game. What we need him to do is to find open receivers and hit them with a catchable ball when the opportunity presents itself. That should produce around 200 yards per game in all but extreme cases. Anything less and we are playing with one arm tied behind our back.
UW- 19 carries, 50 yards, 2.6 ypc 0 TD
Clemson- 10 carries, 63 yards, 6.3 ypc 1 TD
Clemson-11 carries, 40 yards, 3.6 ypc, 0 TD
I don’t see it as an equal trade off. That’s just my opinion. I’m not asking Jalen to produce 300 yards and 3 TDs per game. What we need him to do is to find open receivers and hit them with a catchable ball when the opportunity presents itself. That should produce around 200 yards per game in all but extreme cases. Anything less and we are playing with one arm tied behind our back.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:55 am to phil4bama
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I’m not asking Jalen to produce 300 yards and 3 TDs per game. What we need him to do is to find open receivers and hit them with a catchable ball when the opportunity presents itself.
Yep that'd be good
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:56 am to diggyson
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the number of 3 and outs he has is poor
# of 3 and outs are not entirely on Jalen. 4 called runs after Bo got hurt last year is the reason for the 3 and outs. If we run the ball just 3-4 more times in that 2nd half then Jalen's TD run for the lead happens with about 30 seconds left in the game and he's a legend in the mind of most Bama fans.
I don't think he's a great thrower of the ball, but there is more to playing QB than just passing. And the kid is a leader who gives it all to Bama. Fans should be behind him 100% and then in the spring let the chips fall where they may after an intense QB competition.
Posted on 1/8/18 at 10:56 am to bamasgot13
Need receivers to catch the ball as well.
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