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re: Jalen Milroe and Ty Simpson

Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:27 am to
Posted by Pastor Mike
Florida
Member since Dec 2020
7003 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:27 am to
Has anyone attempted to explain Ty killing the play by falling down 5 yards behind the line of scrimmage and 10 yards outside the tackle box instead of just throwing it away??? If you don't pull him THERE, you will never pull him
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
7907 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:51 am to
quote:

Tommy Rees deserves the Nobel Prize for winning the SEC and being a play away from a NC appearance with Jalen Milroe


They had a lot of luck that year.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
7907 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:57 am to
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Simpson still is one.

I can tell you with confidence, when draft time comes around, Simpson WILL not be a day 1 pick.
All of those projections are from weeks ago. There’s plenty of film now to see the glaring weaknesses.
The INT last night where he was slow getting the ball out is the kind of plays an NFL QB has to make. He also absolutely cannot hit vertical routes. Even when the WR is wide open. No he won’t be 1st round.
Posted by UhOhOreo
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2014
3428 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 7:58 am to
Because there is literally nothing to do but commit grounding there. No one was running a route and he had no receivers on his side of the field

Christ guys, watch the play again

quote:

Simpson will not be a Day 1 pick


Yes, he will. I don’t think you guys know how to evaluate QB’s. The main thing a scout will see is he made a coverage read and processes it quickly, but hesitated half a second leading to the pick. They’re not going to grade that as horrendous, they’re going to flag he made the correct progression.

Sayin threw an int yesterday on the exact same coverage due to the same issue. No one is proclaiming he’s a dud.

LINK

Ty had a slimmer window, but it’s a throw that routinely gets picked in the NFL because it’s not an easy throw at all.
This post was edited on 12/7/25 at 8:03 am
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
10438 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 8:02 am to
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Because there is literally nothing to do but commit grounding there. No one was running a route and he had no receivers on his side of the field


Doesn't matter, he was outside the tackle box so all he had to do was get the ball past the line of scrimmage and out of bounds.
Posted by AlterDWI
Pattern Noticing, Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
6046 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 8:03 am to
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Has anyone attempted to explain Ty killing the play by falling down 5 yards behind the line of scrimmage and 10 yards outside the tackle box instead of just throwing it away??? If you don't pull him THERE, you will never pull him


Embarrassing. Alot like Milroe's leg whip tackle.
Posted by UhOhOreo
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2014
3428 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 8:04 am to
So you want him to turn his body and get lit up while throwing to the sideline? With no clue if there’s a backer crashing the option off the edge?

Do you want a fumble?

You slide there because it’s ball security. The play is blown, you’re in a bad position, you go down. You don’t know who else isn’t on the same page as the back.

I don’t know how you guys are going to complain about strip sack fumbles then argue for a dangerous throw for five yards
This post was edited on 12/7/25 at 8:05 am
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11866 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 8:08 am to
Not to mention he still hasn’t mastered the simple concept of throwing the ball away at times. The play where he got chased down from behind by the UGA spy LB, he could have saved us -5 yards by just throwing it out of bounds. Ty thinks TOO much. He seems to believe he can always outscheme and outthink the opponent. Sometimes it’s better to just conceed a play and move on. That’s why I get sick of the constant chess match before the snap of Ty reading the defense and audibling, then the defense shifts so Ty changes the play, then the defense shifts again and Ty goes “oh shite! Play clock is at 3, 2…!” Every once in a while, it’s better to just run the damn play called and live with it. Who knows? Maybe our guy makes a play and the wrong call works or maybe their guy misses an assignment and it works. But if you want to call your own play every time, go put on a headset on the sidelines.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
52075 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 8:39 am to
quote:

why did DeBoer get those guys? If not, why aren’t they playing if Simpson is atrocious?


Difference last year was ty was 3 years into the program.

Keelon is a true freshman
Posted by Pastor Mike
Florida
Member since Dec 2020
7003 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 8:49 am to
It really is ok if people disagree with you. It has nothing to do with their lack of understanding the game or having inferior knowledge to yours.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
21362 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 9:01 am to
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Tommy Rees deserves the Nobel Prize for winning the SEC and being a play away from a NC appearance with Jalen Milroe.

I’ve been saying this for awhile.

I do think the playbook for stopping him hadn’t been fully written yet. Venables basically ended Milroe as a college player absent Hurts level improvements IMO.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11866 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 9:04 am to
I don’t want to hear any bitching about not having the right players in place. It’s 2025 and there’s this thing called the transfer portal. If you need something at a position, you go find it and get it through the portal. Curt Cignetti just won the B1G last night over mighty undefeated and defending national champion tOSU and he did it with portal kids. He played for the B1G title in year 1 and lost to tOsu, so he hit the portal again in the offseason and this year he won it. With a bunch of transfers from JMU and Cal and other programs that nobody is mistaking for a powerhouse. Lane Kiffin built Ole Miss into a playoff team almost exclusively through the portal.
Teams that “get it” and are using the portal strategically are thriving like Vandy and Ole Miss and Indiana. Even tOSU is supplementing their roster with key players like Caleb Downs and Julian Sayin.
Teams that don’t “get it” and aren’t using the portal properly like Clemson and Florida and Auburn are floundering. Some try to use the portal and just aren’t good at it and some don’t even try like Dabo. If you are going to compete for championships today, you’d better learn how to use the portal and use it correctly. Lack of talent due to missed recruiting or bad evaluation is no longer an excuse.
Posted by UhOhOreo
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2014
3428 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 9:09 am to
I think that was moreso DeBeoer* not having familiarity with what Rees did so well

Reese basically turned us into 2014 Ohio State. We went play action with Milroe's arm and simplified route trees by focusing on halves of the field.

2023 Bama tried the spread vertical offense, which put too much decision making in Milroe’s hands and exploited his bad reads
This post was edited on 12/7/25 at 9:14 am
Posted by FightingOkra
Member since Oct 2024
303 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 9:31 am to
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key players like Caleb Downs and Julian Sayin.


We can't afford players like that out of the portal. We get outbid consistently.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24701 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 10:45 am to
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Even tOSU is supplementing their roster with key players like Caleb Downs and Julian Sayin.

Both of those guys, especially Downs, got big bags. I don’t think we can afford to outbid certain teams for players like that

The key is finding “diamond in the rough” types from smaller programs. Like you said, that’s what Indiana has done a lot of. Most of those guys weren’t blue chips.
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
23752 posts
Posted on 12/7/25 at 8:30 pm to
quote:

grounding there


He was way outside the tackle box and very easily could have throw past the line of scrimmage. He just didn't think about throwing it away.
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