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Is it possible that Jalen threw the two bad picks because Proctor was giving away the pass

Posted on 9/18/23 at 2:13 pm
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/18/23 at 2:13 pm
plays presnap?
Do either of those routes get jumped if Texas didn’t know we were passing?
They were still really bad mistakes but we should give Jalen a bit of a break since Texas new every time we were passing the ball.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 9/18/23 at 2:17 pm to
I don't know about the first INT but the second one was a moronic play.

Milroe is NOT a pocket passer and he struggles with accuracy on intermediate routes so why the hell would you as an OC would you call max protect with only two route that aren't go or clearouts when their safeties are sitting on the intermediate stuff outside???

They didn't hide the fact they were running cover 2 a bunch but our OC literally did nothing to attack the middle of the field till the 4th quarter.

Milroe is limited but damn our OC didn't help him at all. He didn't help Ty Simpson either. Yet somehow he knew to throw a ton of screens and quicks with Buchner smh
Posted by UhOhOreo
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 9/18/23 at 2:20 pm to
I don’t think he trusted Milroe to throw a screen
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 2:21 pm to
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Milroe is limited but damn our OC didn't help him at all.


I’d like to see if Milroe looks that limited without being hit so many times. He’s short passes are likely never going to be great this year but they looked way better in game 1. Also it’s hard to call plays and make passes when the defense knows it’s a pass or run play. There is no excuse for how bad of a game Tommy called this past Saturday though.
Posted by JIB
Member since Sep 2013
823 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 2:23 pm to
I don't think that's it.

On his second INT the safety looked at Milroe and saw he was looking to his right, so he just broke on that route. He completely ignored that Brooks was getting inside his guy and if Milroe had throw a corner route for Brooks it could have been a TD since there was no safety help there. I mean, the safety broke on the ball from more than 10 yards away. He knew only 2 guys were running a route and only 1 guy had a chance to get the ball.

Poor design by Rees on that one. Two man routes where one guy is not an option due to a limited QB is on the OC.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
24512 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 2:24 pm to
There is absolutely no way to sugarcoat those picks

-Milroe Sunshine Pumper
Posted by BigFolks6347
Alabama
Member since Sep 2022
1388 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 2:24 pm to
But he trusted Buchner to throw screens at the water pipes?
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 2:26 pm to
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On his second INT the safety looked at Milroe and saw he was looking to his right,


I agree it was a bad pass. My point is, is that safety even in position to make that play if he doesn’t know we are passing presnap. It makes the game a lot easier on defense if the offense tells you before every play “we are running here or we are passing here.”
Posted by UhOhOreo
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2014
1776 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 2:28 pm to
Buchner wasn’t making risky decision throws, so probably

Now whether he could hit the broadside of a barn is a different story
Posted by Lieutenant Dan
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/18/23 at 2:36 pm to
lol wut
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/18/23 at 2:59 pm to
No. Jalen threw the two picks because he is a running back thrown in as a quarterback and actually being counted on to throw the ball rather than run wildcat.
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 3:03 pm to
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No. Jalen threw the two picks because he is a running back thrown in as a quarterback and actually being counted on to throw the ball rather than run wildcat.


God I wish I could zoom forward in time just to watch all of you armchair QBs with low football IQ eat crow. Lol
Posted by EthanHunt007
Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 9/18/23 at 3:19 pm to
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God I wish I could zoom forward in time just to watch all of you armchair QBs with low football IQ eat crow. Lol



This is going to come back to bite you bigly, friend.
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 3:22 pm to
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This is going to come back to bite you bigly, friend.


Haha. No I’ll be having a blast in three weeks when we are 5 and 1 with Arky headed to town because most of these armchair QBs will have come around by then. We will still have a few that will bitch all the way up until the playoffs.
Posted by UhOhOreo
Los Angeles
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Posted on 9/18/23 at 3:24 pm to
I appreciate him for giving me something to look forward to in this desolate future
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 9/18/23 at 3:31 pm to
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Do either of those routes get jumped if Texas didn’t know we were passing?


The routes don't get jumped if Milroe isn't locked in on the receiver from the snap. C'mon, man.
Posted by Crimson K
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2018
4626 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 3:32 pm to
Did Proctor make him miss the two sure TDs on the RB wheel routes that he threw? Or the one to Bond that the WR had to stop for and come back to make an acrobatic catch in coverage rather than jogging into the end zone?
This post was edited on 9/18/23 at 4:06 pm
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 9/18/23 at 3:52 pm to
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Do either of those routes get jumped if Texas didn’t know we were passing?



Posted by Dolphin1
Madison, AL
Member since Mar 2018
117 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 5:29 pm to
Your opinion could be correct but that running back is definitely better than the other two QB's.
Posted by Notorious1918
San Diego
Member since Aug 2019
279 posts
Posted on 9/18/23 at 6:39 pm to
Two separate problems. I think the defense can tell run or pass. It’s been a problem on and off for all of the Saban era. And it happens all the time in football. Completely different issue, Milroe’s tunnel vision got him picked off twice.
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