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Interesting Article on Ray Perkins
Posted on 8/29/17 at 7:48 pm
Posted on 8/29/17 at 7:48 pm
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Much more in the article. I never knew much about Perkins besides him being one of the coaches in between Bear and Stallings, as I wasn't alive when he coached at the Capstone.
What are some of yall's memories of him?
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Last week, Daboll's former boss, the Patriots' Bill Belichick, explained the foundation of "all of the terminology that we use today" was laid, in part, by Perkins.
"Ray had a huge influence on my life and my career," Belichick says. "I learned a lot from Coach Perkins."
As head coach of the New York Giants, Perkins also gave Belichick his first major coaching opportunity, taking old friend Ernie Adams's advice and hiring the future Hall of Famer in 1979 to oversee the franchise's special teams.
On the outskirts of the Big Apple decades ago, Belichick worked alongside Bill Parcells and Romeo Crennel -- two coaches recommended to Perkins by former Tide quarterback Steve Sloan.
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Together, they all served as assistants on Perkins' staff, teaching a no-nonsense, uncompromising brand of football that was intended to transform the culture of a proud organization that had fallen on hard times. Belichick remembers Perkins, a former Alabama and Baltimore Colts receiver, as "hard-nosed."
"A real grinder," he adds.
"Having the Coach Bryant influence certainly was apparent. Philosophically, we were very compatible," Parcells tellsAL.com. "Ray was tough but fair."
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Perkins relished the challenge he had in New York. In 1981, with Parcells as his defensive coordinator, he guided the Giants to the playoffs for the first time in 18 years. Life was good for the Petal, Miss. native making his way in the nation's biggest media market. Perkins proclaimed he had the "best job" in football and was content working for the Mara family that owned the team since its inception in 1925. But at a cocktail party with reporters one summer evening, Newark Star-Ledgerbeat writer Dave Klein planted a seed in Perkins' head.
Sidling up to Perkins, he said, "Let me ask you a question. What if Coach Bryant decided it was time for him to hang it up in Tuscaloosa?"
Much more in the article. I never knew much about Perkins besides him being one of the coaches in between Bear and Stallings, as I wasn't alive when he coached at the Capstone.
What are some of yall's memories of him?
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Posted on 8/29/17 at 7:56 pm to Funky Tide 8
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What are some of yall's memories of him?
Most of my memories are influenced by my father and grandfather. I was pretty young during the Perkins years.
His changes upset a lot of people, but he laid the foundation for facilities updates. No telling what he would have done had he remained head coach.
This post was edited on 8/29/17 at 9:41 pm
Posted on 8/29/17 at 8:24 pm to CapstoneGrad06
Not beating Auburn doomed him. He gets a bad rap.
Posted on 8/29/17 at 8:30 pm to Five0
He beat Auburn. Bill Curry never beat Auburn.
Posted on 8/30/17 at 10:16 am to Cobrasize
Perkins was .500 against Auburn. His wins were all time classics too...."Wrong Way Bo" and "The Kick"
I just got done reading Bill Parcells book and Ray Perkins factors in to his story bigly. He was a Parcells mentor and hired him as DC and Bellichik was on the staff as well. Together, they put together that Giants team that dominated in the 80's including drafting LT and a number of other HOF players. Parcells talks a lot about Perkins as coach at N.Y. and his influence. Perkins was a tough m.f.er with a high football IQ and brought that Bryant philosophy to New York. He only quit the Giants because he just couldn't turn down Bama. He would probably be in the Hall of Fame had he stayed in New York.
As a coach at Bama, it was another story. He was better suited to the NFL. I don't think his game translated well to college. His personality is pretty douchey and he is cold, aloof, and arrogant guy. I don't think he recruited particularly well either. He was argumentative and combative. Always seemed to have a chip on his shoulder because he grew up pretty tough. He didn't mesh well with the AD and boosters. Saban can be that way but he can also charm you. Perkins couldn't do that. Plus Perkins couldn't win enough although he was in a tough spot taking over from the GOAT and with Pat Dye and AU on a roll. I would also add he was a big Mike Shula supporter when Shula was coaching and he doesn't have any love lost for the powers that be back in Alabama.
One of Bama's greatest players
Good player in the NFL
Brilliant NFL coach
Horrible college coach
I just got done reading Bill Parcells book and Ray Perkins factors in to his story bigly. He was a Parcells mentor and hired him as DC and Bellichik was on the staff as well. Together, they put together that Giants team that dominated in the 80's including drafting LT and a number of other HOF players. Parcells talks a lot about Perkins as coach at N.Y. and his influence. Perkins was a tough m.f.er with a high football IQ and brought that Bryant philosophy to New York. He only quit the Giants because he just couldn't turn down Bama. He would probably be in the Hall of Fame had he stayed in New York.
As a coach at Bama, it was another story. He was better suited to the NFL. I don't think his game translated well to college. His personality is pretty douchey and he is cold, aloof, and arrogant guy. I don't think he recruited particularly well either. He was argumentative and combative. Always seemed to have a chip on his shoulder because he grew up pretty tough. He didn't mesh well with the AD and boosters. Saban can be that way but he can also charm you. Perkins couldn't do that. Plus Perkins couldn't win enough although he was in a tough spot taking over from the GOAT and with Pat Dye and AU on a roll. I would also add he was a big Mike Shula supporter when Shula was coaching and he doesn't have any love lost for the powers that be back in Alabama.
One of Bama's greatest players
Good player in the NFL
Brilliant NFL coach
Horrible college coach
This post was edited on 8/30/17 at 10:28 am
Posted on 8/30/17 at 10:27 am to 14&Counting
quote:This is right on the money. He came across to most people around Tuscaloosa as an a-hole, but fact was, he just didn't have much patience with people, and even less personality. People don't realize how much more there is to being the HC at a place like Alabama than just football affairs....probably unfair, but true.
As a coach at Bama, it was another story. He was better suited to the NFL. I don't think his game translated well to college. His personality is pretty douchey and he is cold, aloof, and arrogant guy. I don't think he recruited particularly well either. He was argumentative and combative. Always seemed to have a chip on his shoulder because he grew up pretty tough. He didn't mesh well with the AD and boosters. Saban can be that way but he can also charm you. Perkins couldn't do that. Plus Perkins couldn't win enough although he was in a tough spot taking over from the GOAT and with Pat Dye and AU on a roll. I would also add he was a big Mike Shula supporter when Shula was coaching and he doesn't have any love lost for the powers that be back in Alabama.
One of Bama's greatest players
Brilliant NFL coach
Horrible college coach
Posted on 8/30/17 at 10:41 am to 14&Counting
That was a pretty informative rundown, thanks.
Posted on 8/30/17 at 11:53 am to coachcrisp
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People don't realize how much more there is to being the HC at a place like Alabama than just football affairs.
If you're talking about Ray, then you're spot on.
Aside from 1 season at Moo State, he had 0 college experience other than his tenure at Alabama. All his experience as an assistant and head coach was NFL. I don't think he knew how to (and possibly didn't care to) do all the other things that come with being a head coach at any college - particularly Alabama.
Posted on 8/30/17 at 12:21 pm to JustGetItRight
If you're curious about the offense that he co-developed,(used by the Giants back in the Parcell's era and the Patriots today) here's a pretty good background of the Ehardt-Perkins offense.
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 1:53 pm to Funky Tide 8
Ray was a master of my favorite running play. The toss sweep.
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