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How would you Tier our defenses under Saban?

Posted on 1/2/21 at 9:37 pm
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
25487 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 9:37 pm
Here is Mine:

GOAT
2011
2016

Great
2009
2012
2015

Good
2008
2017
2020
2013
2010

Average
2014
2018

Bad
2007
2019
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24263 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 9:54 pm to
Difficult to do. I don’t know how good 2011 would be in today’s CFB game.
Posted by Kcstills17
Member since Nov 2017
10066 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:03 pm to
Sad part is they probably wouldn’t be that great. No shot at them but it was a different time and we did not have a lot of defenders that had the quickened necessary
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24263 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:14 pm to
Don’t get me wrong I think the DL would be great to have but LB outside of CJ Mosley would struggle. Jonathan Allen will always be great regardless of era. Marcel Dareus was great at holding point of attack. Our DE would need to be more of what we have today though.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
64955 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 10:15 pm to
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Difficult to do. I don’t know how good 2011 would be in today’s CFB game.


You judge a team by how well it did against its peers in the year they played. The 2011 Alabama defense will likely be the last to finish #1 in every major statistical category for a very long time.
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
12216 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:00 pm to
I think you can put the 17 defense in the great category.
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
25487 posts
Posted on 1/2/21 at 11:35 pm to
I would but that Mississippi State performance was abysmal and so was Auburn(Granted we were depleted)

That was a hellacious effort against Clemson though
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
8109 posts
Posted on 1/3/21 at 8:52 am to
2013 defense was average in my opinion. Couldn't hold a 21-7 halftime lead against Auburn and got arse raped by Trevor Knight and OU in Sugar Bowl. The rest of your list is pretty legit.
Posted by biclops
Member since Oct 2011
6149 posts
Posted on 1/3/21 at 10:00 am to
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I think you can put the 17 defense in the great category.


Agreed. Very underrated group.
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
3476 posts
Posted on 1/3/21 at 10:47 am to
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I think you can put the 17 defense in the great category.


Completely agree with this; the ‘17 squad was fantastic.

2020 belongs in the average or bad, the Ole Miss and Florida games are two of the worst defensive performances we’ve seen from a Saban team. Those were really the only two good offenses faced this year. I guess this squad has one last shot at redemption, so maybe it’s premature, but at this point I couldn’t place them in the good category.
Posted by biclops
Member since Oct 2011
6149 posts
Posted on 1/3/21 at 10:49 am to
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2020 belongs in the average or bad, the Ole Miss and Florida games are two of the worst defensive performances we’ve seen from a Saban team. Those were really the only two good offenses faced this year. I guess this squad has one last shot at redemption, so maybe it’s premature, but at this point I couldn’t place them in the good category.


Chance to move into "Good" territory by holding Ohio State to a respectable score.
This post was edited on 1/3/21 at 11:15 am
Posted by BamaFan107
Madison
Member since Dec 2019
893 posts
Posted on 1/3/21 at 10:54 am to
2013 was average. The two year span of 2013-2014, was the final years of oversized linebackers and we struggled against spread teams. We also were putting safeties at the star position during these times so we lacked quickness, but tackled well.

2020 is in between good and average.

2007 was Saban’s first year and he worked wonders with what he had, thought they played better than what they really were.
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
33277 posts
Posted on 1/3/21 at 11:23 am to
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Great
2009
2012
2015


I think they belong in the GOAT status. That team had a lot of the same players on that '16 squad, plus guys like Ragland, Cyrus, A'Shawn, and Reed. They had dominant performances against:

-#3 Michigan State (38-0),
-#8 Georgia in Athens (38-10; UGA had Michel and Chubb),
-#17 Mississippi State in Starkville (31-6; double digit sacks against Prescott)
-#2 LSU (30-16; Fournette's worst game)

The only games that offenses were able to really move the ball on them was Ole Miss and Clemson.
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
33277 posts
Posted on 1/3/21 at 11:29 am to
You can go ahead and throw 2010 team into average as well. They had a spectacular performance vs Mallet in the second half, beat down Florida, and stopped Newton for almost an entire half.

Then shite like this happened: Stephen Garcia had a GOAT game, but they got pushed around up front all game and couldn't stop Lattimore. LSU was garbage on offense all year, yet put up 433 yards on Alabama (Jordan Jefferson went 10-13, 141 yards and 1 TD). Then we all know the second half of IB.

Inexperience on defense and Hightower coming off of an injury hurt that 2010 squad. The bright spots were Robert Lester showing out in the secondary and Upshaw emerging as a star late in the season.
This post was edited on 1/3/21 at 11:31 am
Posted by OldPete
Georgia
Member since Oct 2013
2804 posts
Posted on 1/3/21 at 12:26 pm to
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2020 belongs in the average or bad, the Ole Miss and Florida games are two of the worst defensive performances we’ve seen from a Saban team. Those were really the only two good offenses faced this year.

Then you’d also need to re-evaluate the 2016 defense. It gave up 500+ total yards in two games and 400+ total yards passing in three, in addition to three 30+ point games...and that team had many more studs, award winners, and likely more NFL starters/draft picks on defense than this team has...

The 2011 defense put up awesome numbers...but they only faced one offense in the top 80 in total offense. When Dont’a Hightower was asked the best offense they faced all year, he didn’t hesitate saying Georgia Southern (an FCS team that ran for 300+ yards against us)...
This post was edited on 1/3/21 at 1:03 pm
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