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re: How will Jake Coker be remembered?
Posted on 1/23/16 at 12:05 pm to crimsontater
Posted on 1/23/16 at 12:05 pm to crimsontater
Coker started out most games slow.
I think he will be remembered as a blue collar version of Greg Mcelroy.
I think he will be remembered as a blue collar version of Greg Mcelroy.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 12:23 pm to Funky Tide 8
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You said that no one knew we had a star freshman wideout, and I said that Ridley had 1000 yards. My point being that your comment was assanine.
It's called context and I'm not going to even waste my time explaining that to you because anyone who understands that knew the literal translation you used was not the meaning of my initial post.
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You said that he was average all year, and I said that he was good to great most of the year. That is a fact. Look at the stats.
More BS from you. I said:
Coker was serviceable and got better through the season.
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He was so average we had to rely on running the ball so damn much people forgot we had a superstar freshman wideout and a athletic freak at TE.
In no point did I say he was average all year. He was complete shite to begin with and got better to being slightly above average. Just like I said people forgot we had a stud WR, I was obviously referring to the media and coaches thinking all they had to do was stop Henry. That of course flew right over your head.
The irony you talk about comprehension but it's quite obvious you project your own mental and personal issues on others.
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I said that our Oline was a big problem. My point is that he didn't have the luxury of a good pass blocking o line like previous QBs. He took sacks but he also scrambled for many clutch plays when he could have thrown it away. He also made some insane throws while a defender was literally in his lap.
More nonsense.
- last year our OL was even WORSE. So stop the whining like he had to deal with something no one else had to.
- He took sacks because he reads slow, thinks slow and reacts slow. Sometimes it wasn't even the OLs fault. He just take too much damn time when he is suppose to execute faster.
- If you want to bash the OL for not being so great, you come off sounding like a damn hypocrite for not admitting Coker had poor pocket awareness, was late on the throws and read coverage slow.
This is pretty much my last response to you on this subject. It is obvious objectivity isn't your strong point in this argument. You're looking at this emotionally. Those who aren't (like me) have come to the same conclusion as I have. Great player with great heart, not a world beater and definitely not better than AJ, Blake or Mac.
You can attempt to ignore the fact our front 7 will probably all be first rounders when it's all said and done, but I won't. If we had these guys the last three years playing at that level we would have won FIVE in a row.
That's how good they were.
This post was edited on 1/23/16 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 1/23/16 at 4:26 pm to RollTide1987
Limited skills, tough guy who got better as the year progressed. National Champion
Posted on 1/23/16 at 4:46 pm to YStar
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Great player with great heart, not a world beater and definitely not better than...Blake
If given the choice between Sims and Coker for a title game, give me Coker. For as great as Sims was at home, he folded in the biggest game of the year. The defense did as well last year against Ohio State as they did against Clemson this year. The difference? Sims turned the ball over three times. Coker did not.
Small thing, but that was the difference between Alabama winning the title and being eliminated from the playoffs.
Now, you can say that Sims could have done what Coker did, but Coker did it with less experienced WRs. Could you imagine what Coker could have done with Cooper? You can't talk about Coker having Ridley as an advantage without mentioning that Sims had a better receiver in Cooper. Ridley is a freshman, and has had on and off games. Eight of the fifteen games he played in, he had under 60 yards receiving. Cooper, on the other hand, had just two games last year where he didn't get over 60 yards receiving.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 6:54 pm to YStar
It's obvious you're upset because Coker won a championship and Sims did not. That's why you're getting so rustled.
Let it go.
Let it go.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 7:18 pm to chattabama
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If given the choice between Sims and Coker for a title game, give me Coker.
Me too. I love Sims and he was fun to watch and accomplished more than we dreamed he would, but you can't ignore the performance each had in the playoffs. Sims was awful against Ohio State. Coker was damn near perfect vs Michigan State and pulled himself together for a great finish vs Clemson. The pass he threw to Stewart on 3rd and long in the 4th quarter was one of the best throws I have ever seen.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 7:21 pm to chattabama
I think the point is that neither Sims nor Coker had the head for the game. Both were slow at reading defenses and making quick decisions. Sims didn't seem to get in as much trouble with sacks because he was a great runner and quicker than Coker. I think everyone is appreciative of what Coker did but the OP asked a question to invoke discussion it seems as if everyone who isnt willing to say he was great people get upset. All he's doing is voicing his opinion. Coker did what was asked in most instances. He played hard overcame a lot of deficiencies in his game and will always be a championship QB at Alabama. He was absolutely aided by a great defense and a great RB who carried the work load. He seemed to disappear in nearly every game until that one drive where he looked great but that was his career.
Posted on 1/23/16 at 7:31 pm to YStar
I'm not smart enough to argue whether Sims or Coker is the better quarterback. You can make a great argument for Sims.
But I'm old enough (58) to tell you that Coker will be remembered as a national championship quarterback. To this day, I can rattle off the Bama championship quarterbacks since 1961. I'll bet most Bama fans my age can do the same.
Not saying it's right or fair, but Coker's big plays from the playoffs will be replayed for decades and his mistakes will be largely forgotten.
But I'm old enough (58) to tell you that Coker will be remembered as a national championship quarterback. To this day, I can rattle off the Bama championship quarterbacks since 1961. I'll bet most Bama fans my age can do the same.
Not saying it's right or fair, but Coker's big plays from the playoffs will be replayed for decades and his mistakes will be largely forgotten.
Posted on 1/24/16 at 12:26 pm to 14&Counting
I feel great for Coker. A good ol boy from mobile, that ended up living his dream. It wasn't easy, and he took a lot of criticism, but the dude won a ring. No matter what happens in his future, he'll always be able to land a good job, get more free drinks than he can consume, and will probably have plenty of "it's rolling, baby" moments.
He earned it all.
He earned it all.
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