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Posted on 10/8/25 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 10/8/25 at 12:21 pm
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Posted on 10/8/25 at 12:47 pm to Panthers4life
You can tell listening live, but when it's written out it is painfully apparent how bad he is as a speaker. Hopefully that's just discomfort with the media and he's different addressing the team. Any time he's in an interview or press conference, it just comes out as rambling word salad.
Take this example from the article. He means to say "I think that's just noise. People want to make things up about the night before." Instead we get "I think the noise that people just want to make things up and aren't real about what's going on about the night before that are completely false and [not] factual."
In modern college football, communication isn't as important as it was in the past because you're motivating the players with money rather than speeches appealing to immaterial things like pride in the program. So you don't necessarily need a speech like Saban's "make his arse quit" or "Kirby thinks we aren't what we used to be." Still, I hope DeBoer's better talking to the team than to the press, because his verbal acuity in public facing remarks is very low.
Take this example from the article. He means to say "I think that's just noise. People want to make things up about the night before." Instead we get "I think the noise that people just want to make things up and aren't real about what's going on about the night before that are completely false and [not] factual."
In modern college football, communication isn't as important as it was in the past because you're motivating the players with money rather than speeches appealing to immaterial things like pride in the program. So you don't necessarily need a speech like Saban's "make his arse quit" or "Kirby thinks we aren't what we used to be." Still, I hope DeBoer's better talking to the team than to the press, because his verbal acuity in public facing remarks is very low.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:30 pm to CrimsonCrusade
He's riffing on a podcast, not giving a speech. You're looking too hard at it.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:31 pm to CrimsonCrusade
Meh. You could only decipher about half of Bear Bryant's words when he spoke in public. He got his point across when he wanted to.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:42 pm to Tupelo
The food thing was rehashed from things that happened last year. The team was doing things on the road last year for sure that helped with the losses. They looked like they had partied hard the night before the Oklahoma game, rumors of the team didn't even know where to go or when to load the bus, and it all seemed to start again with Florida State.
Hopefully they cleaned all of that up (looked like it against Georgia), if not, an 11am game against a good team will get you beat.
Hopefully they cleaned all of that up (looked like it against Georgia), if not, an 11am game against a good team will get you beat.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 1:58 pm to Syd
It’s literally just message board cope. No one “partied hard” before Oklahoma; Kane got his scheme ran all over and Milroe threw two stupid interceptions that blew the game, which wasn’t surprising with how good Venables is as a coordinator
This food story was hilarious, like Proctor getting taco bell at 1AM was why we lost a 1PM game
This food story was hilarious, like Proctor getting taco bell at 1AM was why we lost a 1PM game
Posted on 10/8/25 at 3:47 pm to UhOhOreo
The road game last year woes are real and it was on everyone, players and coaches. I’m not an insider but know people that are around the program. They didn’t “party” on road games but had some fun and the coaches didn’t organize things like everyone has been doing the last 20 years.
Hope it’s corrected and I think it is, the SEC is different than the west coast, you got to be ready fully prepared almost every week. There isn’t a lot of Cal’s and Stanford’s, hell they use to be our Vandy and know they aren’t an easy W.
Hope it’s corrected and I think it is, the SEC is different than the west coast, you got to be ready fully prepared almost every week. There isn’t a lot of Cal’s and Stanford’s, hell they use to be our Vandy and know they aren’t an easy W.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 4:03 pm to CrimsonCrusade
I think yall need to come to terms with the fact that we had one of the most measured and skillful public speakers as our head coach for 17 years and that 99.99% of coaches (even the good ones) don’t talk like Saban
Hell look in our back yard. Oats is a terrible interview unless he’s talking shite
Hell look in our back yard. Oats is a terrible interview unless he’s talking shite
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Posted on 10/8/25 at 4:31 pm to Glorious
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I think yall need to come to terms with the fact that we had one of the most measured and skillful public speakers as our head coach for 17 years and that 99.99% of coaches (even the good ones) don’t talk like Saban
Hell look in our back yard. Oats is a terrible interview unless he’s talking shite
I think he's sounded more confident than last year to be quite honest. Saban got maximum value out of every word uttered in public. There is a reason he retired from football, went into television, and immediately became one of the best studio analysts in the business. I do not think DeBoer would make a similarly seamless post-football transition to television. Hell, Urban Meyer is nowhere near the analyst for Fox that Saban has established for himself at ESPN. Saban's presence has lifted their entire Saturday morning product.
We just got to accept that a Monday noon head coach press conference is not a worthwhile listen most weeks anymore. Saban was one of the best to do it in a press conference. You knew what the message to the team was on Monday and knew how he was thinking about their preparation has been going on Wednesday. He was honest and always on message. Never said something was going well when practice was dogshit...he would be calling their asses out. He always gave you the best analysis you could get on the other team on Monday without even having to hunt down one of these YouTube prognosticators.
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Posted on 10/8/25 at 5:55 pm to Panthers4life
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DeBoer said rumors about players ordering foods was false.
I'm sure he did say that.
It'd be one hell of a look to say that it was true.
Posted on 10/8/25 at 7:06 pm to Chancellor
his construction of english sentences makes no sense. word salad is the best way to put it
I dont think I have heard any Bama coach speak like that
I dont think I have heard any Bama coach speak like that
This post was edited on 10/8/25 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 10/9/25 at 6:50 am to Panthers4life
Jesus, I don't care if he talks like Farmer Fran from "The Water Boy" as long as Bama is winning. We have some in our fan base who will look for ANYTHING to grumble about. In the grand scheme of things, how or what CKD says doesn't matter. Period.
Posted on 10/9/25 at 6:58 am to Amarillo Tide
As I've said before, when he's lifting trophies then results will speak for itself.
I've been disappointed that the press conferences are not a worthwhile listen but I've also spent essentially my entire post-undergrad life with Nick Saban running them. I didn't watch a single Mike Shula press conference by my memory though all the studying and drinking makes that a bit cloudy.
About the only media availability I remember from the Shula era was Juwan Simpson saying that Shula ought to give them an ice cream (regarding punishment for off-season transgressions).
I've been disappointed that the press conferences are not a worthwhile listen but I've also spent essentially my entire post-undergrad life with Nick Saban running them. I didn't watch a single Mike Shula press conference by my memory though all the studying and drinking makes that a bit cloudy.
About the only media availability I remember from the Shula era was Juwan Simpson saying that Shula ought to give them an ice cream (regarding punishment for off-season transgressions).
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