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re: Darius Miles Charged With Capital Murder In Shooting

Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:07 pm to
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:07 pm to
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I can’t believe he’d admit to that unless he panicked well before any lawyers had gotten to talk to him.

I can. After all, Miles got himself into this horrible mess.
This post was edited on 1/17/23 at 12:10 pm
Posted by UAgrad93
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Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:20 pm to
I can as well. He made the choice to hang around with one of his boys from back home (Maryland and DC area). Reminds me of Rolando McClain if you think about it. As long as he was on campus and under the guidance of Saban, he was fine. Once he got out on his own or went back to Decatur, he would hang out with his old buddies and ALWAYS managed to get himself into some shite!!
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
24503 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:20 pm to
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Again, Miles reportedly tired to avoid the situation after an argument on the Strip, but his friend Davis refused to let it go.


We are apparently seeing that is not entirely true - he admitted to providing the gun. He may not have meant to cause harm by it (who is to say), but . . .

Still a lot of unanswered questions. Where did the gun come from? Was he intoxicated? Was this premeditated? We just don’t know.

Anyway, link to the story:
LINK
This post was edited on 1/17/23 at 12:21 pm
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:50 pm to
If he ran his mouth before the lawyers got there, no clue what he could have said. He would have to go back and change his story which would be difficult.
Posted by Joka2kold
Member since Nov 2019
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 12:51 pm to
I'll wait till the other investigation gets done.



Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
6046 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 2:07 pm to
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He would have to go back and change his story which would be difficult.


You would think so, but it seems to happen all the time and it's viable in court because of the coercive nature of the interviews. The whole goal of an investigator is to get them to admit to a crime under a certain set of circumstances using coercive tactics and getting suspects to change the wording of their stories to fit the charge. It's very possible that Miles told them the other guy took it out of the center console and the investigator asked something like "So you provided him the gun?". As soon as he says "Yeah, but..." they have the admission for the charge they're looking for. Praying that this is the case, because if he handed him the gun right beforehand, he's fricked even if he thought he wouldn't do anything with it.

To be clear, I hope that the truth comes out. If he's guilty and had ill intent, he should get the punishment he deserves. I'm just hoping that the truth is that he didn't have any bad intentions and that the inevitable punishment reflects that.
This post was edited on 1/17/23 at 2:14 pm
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26371 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 2:15 pm to
The guilty deserve to be punished but if any of you are arrested for any reason N E V E R talk to the police.

Say NOTHING. no matter what lies they tell you. Except for I want my attorney. That's the exception. That's it.
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 2:18 pm to
Obviously both vehicles had guns because both vehicles had gun shot injuries. Were both pointing guns at each other? When do you get to protect yourself? One drove off and then stopped police because there was a dead person in their car. There is probably zero chance they would have stopped the police if there was a minor injury in their auto.
This post was edited on 1/17/23 at 2:19 pm
Posted by UAgrad93
Sylacauga
Member since Oct 2015
1580 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 2:22 pm to
By the downvote, I’m guessing someone is trying to make something more out of my post than what it is. When I was coming along in school, athletes were held to a higher standard than just regular students. More was expected from you. You had to not only get in your school work, but you had your responsibilities with the team. You had to separate yourself from the things/people that might lead you astray. You have to make better decisions and Miles chose not to is all I’m saying. He now has to deal with those consequences.
On a side note, I found out today that one of my former students had been shot and killed in the last 24 hours. It seems that this wasn’t the first time he had been shot either. Tragedies? Yes! Could they have been avoided? Most definitely!
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
6046 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 2:26 pm to
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Obviously both vehicles had guns because both vehicles had gun shot injuries. Were both pointing guns at each other? When do you get to protect yourself. One drove off and then stopped police because there was a dead person in their car. There is probably zero chance they would have stopped the police if there was a minor injury in their auto.



This is another reason that it's stupid to jump to conclusions whenever a story comes out. There's simply too many unknowns that aren't out yet.
Posted by UAgrad93
Sylacauga
Member since Oct 2015
1580 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 2:28 pm to
There was an incident on the Jefferson/Walker county line around 40 years ago, where a truckload of teenagers decided to do donuts in a person’s yard. The property owner stepped out onto the porch and fired his shotgun into the air hoping to scare them off. A pellet deflected off of a tree limb and struck one of the teens at the base of her skull, paralyzing her instantly. Investigation was done, nothing came of it but the property owner had to live with that incident until he died just a few years ago.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
20419 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 3:27 pm to
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quote:He would have to go back and change his story which would be difficult. You would think so, but it seems to happen all the time and it's viable in court because of the coercive nature of the interviews. The whole goal of an investigator is to get them to admit to a crime under a certain set of circumstances using coercive tactics and getting suspects to change the wording of their stories to fit the charge. It's very possible that Miles told them the other guy took it out of the center console and the investigator asked something like "So you provided him the gun?". As soon as he says "Yeah, but..." they have the admission for the charge they're looking for. Praying that this is the case, because if he handed him the gun right beforehand, he's fricked even if he thought he wouldn't do anything with it. To be clear, I hope that the truth comes out. If he's guilty and had ill intent, he should get the punishment he deserves. I'm just hoping that the truth is that he didn't have any bad intentions and that the inevitable punishment reflects that.


It’s weird I was never one of the I have the authority to lie to get answers type. It never fit my personality in LE.

Of course what I meant by hard is it places doubt in everyone’s mind, not hard to do so to speak.
This post was edited on 1/17/23 at 3:28 pm
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
20419 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 3:27 pm to
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The guilty deserve to be punished but if any of you are arrested for any reason N E V E R talk to the police. Say NOTHING. no matter what lies they tell you. Except for I want my attorney. That's the exception. That's it.


Incredibly accurate. Anything you say can and will be used against, not can and will be used for you.
Posted by DT55Forever1
Member since Jan 2018
3154 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 3:32 pm to
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If he ran his mouth before the lawyers got there, no clue what he could have said. He would have to go back and change his story which would be difficult


Can any of what he said be inadmissible since it was said without a lawyer present? Said under duress maybe?
Posted by Bamachief
Member since Aug 2021
1105 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 4:07 pm to
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Can any of what he said be inadmissible since it was said without a lawyer present?


Everything he said is admissible once he was read his rights. His only response should have been “Lawyer”.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16161 posts
Posted on 1/17/23 at 6:21 pm to
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Can any of what he said be inadmissible since it was said without a lawyer present? Said under duress maybe?


Spontaneous utterances, meaning anything he blurts out on his own in the shock of the moment without prompting is admissible.
Posted by Joka2kold
Member since Nov 2019
6151 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 12:28 am to
Miles is being represented by the Turner Law Group now and they say there's video evidence of some sort I don't know whether the evidence is helping him or not but they've asked for a preliminary hearing quickly.
Posted by Alabama_Fan
The Road Less Traveled
Member since Sep 2020
15972 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 7:04 am to
Here’s the SI write up

Miles Darius Formally Hires Tuscaloosa-Based Attorneys, New Statement Issued

Former Alabama basketball player facing capital murder charges to be defended by the Turner Law Group, which specializes in criminal defense.
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
2241 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:32 am to
So I read one report that said the guy that shot the gun, Miles buddy, got the gun, walked over to the automobile and shot the girl in the automobile. Just because the girl gave him the cold shoulder when he tried to hit on her. That dude needs to be put to death. In the early days of this country, they would have a quick trial and if found guilty, they would take you out back and hang you. Thats what this thug needs if all the evidence proves true. And apparently there is plenty of it. I really dont understand Miles getting charged with murder, though. I mean you are presuming that Miles thought his buddy was taking the gun to go kill her. If you have a gun, dont let anyone else get their hands on it.
Posted by Glorious
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Member since Aug 2014
26250 posts
Posted on 1/19/23 at 8:48 am to
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So I read one report that said the guy that shot the gun, Miles buddy, got the gun, walked over to the automobile and shot the girl in the automobile. Just because the girl gave him the cold shoulder when he tried to hit on her


Miles giving the gun to him right before is an awful fact in his case. But if the quote is true, you could almost argue that his "friends" actions were so outrageous that Miles couldn't have foreseen it happening

Of course, any time your buddy says "Hey man can I see your gun," you probably should be a little skeptical
This post was edited on 1/19/23 at 8:49 am
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