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Dan Patrick SEC working on super conference

Posted on 8/12/20 at 9:47 am
Posted by Diogenes
Woodstock, Georgia
Member since Nov 2013
60 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 9:47 am
what a novel idea, a super conference!!!

Brilliant !

“The SEC is trying to see if they can pick off some of these schools and see if they want to join them,” Dan Patrick said. “If you can get Texas and Oklahoma from the Big 12 and they’re going to join you in the SEC, you’ve got a super conference.”

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This post was edited on 8/12/20 at 9:51 am
Posted by Diogenes
Woodstock, Georgia
Member since Nov 2013
60 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 9:51 am to
Nebraska is shopping around for a conference too...

This will be the day that changed everything. The shape of universities. The fabric of college football. The strength and charm of so many college towns.

The dominoes are about to fall and they’re going to land on a lot of good people.

And one might happen that we didn’t expect.

Will we remember this as the beginning of the end of Nebraska and the Big Ten?

Absolutely. And the way the Big Ten and Kevin Warren have conducted themselves, that would be a good thing.

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This post was edited on 8/12/20 at 10:17 am
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11831 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 9:51 am to
This shows you how little Patrick knows. From my understanding OU can not leave unless you take OSU as well. Something to do at the state government level. IIRC this was an issue back in the original expansion days.

Also to add any team in the SEC you have all to have all members agrees. So you need 14 votes to add a school and aTm will never allow Texas to join.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11831 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 9:53 am to
For the record I would love to see us add some teams like this.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11831 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 9:54 am to
BTW to the down voter, you can down vote all you want but it will not change reality.
Posted by ATLabama
Member since Jan 2013
1602 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 9:59 am to
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This shows you how little Patrick knows. From my understanding OU can not leave unless you take OSU as well. Something to do at the state government level. IIRC this was an issue back in the original expansion days.


It's literally like some people think the world is NCAA14.

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BTW to the down voter, you can down vote all you want but it will not change reality.


Some people just don't get it. Eventually, the adults in the room will show up. Whether it be the national guard pushing George Wallace out of the way, or the league higher-ups and BOTs deciding not to risk the fate of a potential high-profile lawsuit and loss of NCAA amateur status, Alabama will fall in line last-minute because it's the right thing to do.

I look forward to the return of College Football as we know it in the fall of 2021. Forgoing this bastard season everyone is dying to have is worth it.
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
1977 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 10:09 am to
Still being a D head is see.
I will be on Lake Martin this weekend at my lake house. Hope you enjoy yourself .
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
12214 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 10:11 am to
Won't be OU and Texas.

OU and OU State have to be in the same conference. Texas and Baylor have a similar thing.

If Nebraska is looking for a new conference, that is an option. The other team would be a Virginia Tech, NC State, West Virginia, UCF or South Florida.

I'm guessing the SEC would go to and 16 team conference. 10 conference games, 5 home and 5 away. One power 5 nonconference team and one group of 5 team to fill out the 12 game schedule.

Do away with divisions and have the best two teams play for the conference title. Every team would have 3 permanent conferenceopponents.

For Bama, it would be Auburn, Tennessee and probably Miss St.
Posted by ATLabama
Member since Jan 2013
1602 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 10:12 am to
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Still being a D head is see.


No, for once I'd like to see the state catch up to the University's cache and do the right thing. It's not a tall task, this I promise.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11831 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 10:19 am to
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OU and OU State have to be in the same conference. Texas and Baylor have a similar thing.


Forgot about Texas in that since but still aTm would not allow it.

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The other team would be a Virginia Tech, NC State, West Virginia, UCF or South Florida


Some of these would TV markets like VT would expand the SEC up through DC and Baltimore with their alumni base. NC State would help to lock down NC and hurt Clemson. WVU would help in Pitt area as well as Ohio, while helping UK out and hurting OSU.

UCF snd SF bring nothing to the table and doubt UF would allow then in.

Nebraska not a large local TV market but solid national brand. Unless they can help increase TV revenue no need which Texas does not expand our market at all and would actually hurt us and others in the conference in recruiting. Any new programs would need to be from states we are not currently in to get approval.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
13172 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 10:32 am to
I am confused as to what people are meaning by this . I can see some schools “playing” in the ACC or SEC this year if there is football but not full fledge jumping conferences for good . I read where there is like a ;0 million dollar fine if someone leaves the Bug 10 and must give Tv money from new conference back to the Big 10 until 2036. I am sure all conferences have some kind of penalties in place
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11831 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 10:34 am to
quote:

Do away with divisions and have the best two teams play for the conference title. Every team would have 3 permanent conferenceopponents.

For Bama, it would be Auburn, Tennessee and probably Miss St.


Do away with division and create 4 pods. 4 teams per pod. Play everyone in your pod each year(3 games), Then play two teams from the other 3 pods for two years to get home and away, then rotate. That gives you 9 conference games. The top two teams overall with the best record still go to the SECCG.

The pods could be done regionally as well and made even. Depending on who you could add might have to move(or) someone around to keep it fair.

POD 1:
Arkansas
LSU or Nebraska
aTm
Missouri

POD 2:
Alabama
Auburn or LSU
Miss St
Ole Miss

POD 3:
UF
USC
UGA or Auburn
NC State

POD 4:
UT
UK
Vandy
VT/WVU or UGA

This would also allow to play everyone with no more then a 2 year rotation without seeing them.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11831 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 10:39 am to
quote:

I am confused as to what people are meaning by this . I can see some schools “playing” in the ACC or SEC this year if there is football but not full fledge jumping conferences for good . I read where there is like a ;0 million dollar fine if someone leaves the Bug 10 and must give Tv money from new conference back to the Big 10 until 2036. I am sure all conferences have some kind of penalties in place


I think some writers and even a few programs have mentioned playing with another conference this fall if that is their only option. But some seem to jump to a conclusion that we could make it permanent which will not happen.

The ACC has a 50 million buyout to leave the conference which was something the conference forced all programs to sign during the expansion period after UM jumped ship. They also have each signed a TV agreement that any TV money they earn goes to the conference until 2036. The Big 12 TV agreement goes to 2025. Not sure on the Big 10 but probably very similar.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 10:40 am to
I have a feeling that ESPN and other media entities would help with the fines in some way. ESPN is already struggling, losing college football and the ad revenue might kill them completely
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
13927 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 10:44 am to
The ACC and Big 12 are scheduled to kick off in less than 3 weeks. I would be thrilled to settle for that right now.
Posted by Diogenes
Woodstock, Georgia
Member since Nov 2013
60 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 10:56 am to
1. Nebraska leads the nation in sellouts in Lincoln. The streak started in 1962.
2. Nebraska vs Oklahoma was a great rivalry game until 2010. This rivalry existed for 86 years, while Oklahoma leads, 45–38–3
3. Nebraska is the 8th winningest football team of all time with 902 wins.
4. Nebraska generates $136m in revenue annually.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21668 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:04 am to
You dumb kids and your "super conference" dreams. You won't rest until you've lost everything you didn't realize made college football what it is. Just watch the NFL and shut up.
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
1977 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:04 am to
The question they cant answer (when asked) and its been asked a few times, is how is the student body safe from Covid 19 and the football players are not? Or, are the football players actually in a safer environment?
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11831 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:09 am to
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The question they cant answer (when asked) and its been asked a few times, is how is the student body safe from Covid 19 and the football players are not? Or, are the football players actually in a safer environment?


You can protect the players and keep them in a controlled environment where it is a lot harder for the student body.

Someone else mentioned Title IX and that makes it harder for the olympic sports as they usually do not have the resources a football program does.

They should send all non-athlete students home to take classes online unless they are in a specific program that requires some type of lab requirements that can not be emulated virtually. Leave athletes on campus to for sports and the resources many of them need to succeed in the classroom.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11831 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 11:12 am to
quote:

You dumb kids and your "super conference" dreams. You won't rest until you've lost everything you didn't realize made college football what it is. Just watch the NFL and shut up.


No kid here just a realist on what drives the train, which is money. TV money will determine the long term future of CFB.

I never wanted to add aTm and Mizzou. I would be happy with 11 teams and play everybody once in the conference. Drop Vandy or AU( ) and let the top 2 go the SECCG.
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