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re: Current CFB Playoff Prediction Models (updated 12/6)

Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:22 am to
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21672 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:22 am to
quote:

We need pass plays they work to Jalen's strengths.


I don't know of any pass plays that work with Jalen running.
Posted by Panthers4life
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2017
4356 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:25 am to
I'm confident that he will probably throw between 175 yards and 250 yards with 1 or 2 ints against Bama. One thing that's shocking is that he hasn't thrown lot of touchdown passes this year. Take away Bryant's ability to run and force him to be a passer and we'll be okay. I suspect we'll mix in some of Auburn game plan with our to contain Bryant. If they can do this to Hurts, then we can do the same to Bryant. The key to is make sure Bryant feels pressure on every plays and eventually he'll make mistakes.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:06 am to
I actually goofed on our game. It's even lower scoring expectation than before.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:11 am to
quote:

We don't need tua. We need pass plays they work to Jalen's strengths.



I agree that throwing Tua into a playoff game would be silly, but Jalen's best pass plays are the kind that are easy for a defense like Clemson to take away. We'll need to run the ball and be efficient passing, but if all we can throw are screens, swings, and hitches, I don't like our chances. Jalen has the ability to make tougher throws, he just struggles with doing it consistently. If he's on his game, we've got this
Posted by TiderNAL
Member since Nov 2010
7187 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:06 pm to
Totally agree, and that's just football at it's most basic level. If you can't convert 3rd downs on offense and get off the field on 3rd down on defense you won't win many games at all.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:48 pm to
Projected Scores from other Models

S&P+
Georgia - 34
Oklahoma - 32

Alabama - 26
Clemson - 22

Sagarin
Georgia - 31
Oklahoma - 28

Clemson - 21
Alabama - 20
Posted by Bamadoc
Mississippi
Member since Jan 2014
3985 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 12:51 pm to
Have we thrown a screen all year? Is this something we don't have in the playbook?

This could help with clemsons great pass rush
Posted by Kcstills17
Member since Nov 2017
10066 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 3:23 pm to
I really think UGA will be able to play a good defensive game against OU. Of course they won't shut them down. But I feel pretty good about UGA. At least today
Posted by Kcstills17
Member since Nov 2017
10066 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 3:24 pm to
Watch us have brown be lined up him again all day
Posted by tider04
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2007
5606 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 4:18 pm to
I’d almost be tempted to stick AA on Renfrow. AA is fast enough, other guys always seemed a step behind him.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16985 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 4:21 pm to
They will def have a plan for him that's 2 years of film if they don't it's stupidity
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11454 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 4:29 pm to
I’ve wondered how much we would benefit from Mississippi State’s game plan against us: shorten the game by running the play clock down under 5 every play. Thoughts?
Posted by 251_Dreaux
Port-City, BAMA
Member since Jul 2013
713 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 4:29 pm to
Boz, what’s the progress reports on Mayden and S. Carter? I honestly wouldn’t mind seeing one of those guys rotating with TB to keep him fresh and to keep his head in the game.
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16985 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 5:41 pm to
I actually really like Mayden and Carter is solid. They will be ready to play now and next year. I would def look at putting a good veteran on 13 though.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 5:53 pm to
quote:

I would def look at putting a good veteran on 13 though.


You can bet your arse they'll be clearing out space and trying to get him to drag the middle on 3rd and 5-7 like Auburn did with Ryan Davis.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
21958 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 5:58 pm to
quote:


We don't need tua. We need pass plays they work to Jalen's strengths.


He has passing strengths other than throwing to a guy open by 15 yards?
Posted by phlux
Member since Jan 2008
546 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 6:24 pm to
MVP for sure.

I’m genuinely curious: what would your model have predicted for OSU vs Clemson had they gotten in instead?

I’m also curious as to what your model predicted for OSU vs Iowa.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 6:28 pm to
quote:

I’m genuinely curious: what would your model have predicted for OSU vs Clemson had they gotten in instead?


I'm not sure - probably a similar game. Ohio State has a similar stat set as us : Good running numbers, middling passing numbers.

quote:

I’m also curious as to what your model predicted for OSU vs Iowa.


This is the problem with Ohio State. Their best games are pretty good (but not incredible) and their worst games are total trainwrecks. It's nearly impossible to model that out, because 2 trainwrecks + 6 very good performances equals pretty good performance. It can't anticipate which weeks OSU shows up and which it doesn't.

So, my guess it would have picked Ohio State by 10 or so.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 2:47 pm to
Did a little update that I think better extrapolates things. It also tries to figure out the play differential (it's not good for us) based on previous games.

Clemson on average runs about 10 more plays a game than their opponent (against above average teams). We run about 10 less than our opponent (A&M, Auburn, LSU, State). That's not good.

And, our averages against the Top 4 defenses we played (IMHO) (FSU, LSU, MSU, Auburn) are as follows :

- 23.3 PPG

- 59.3 Plays Per Game
- 71.0 Plays Per Game Against
- (-11.7) Play Net Per Game


- 332 YPG
- 176 Rush YPG
- 156 Pass YPG

- 5.59 Total YPP
- 4.56 Rush YPA
- 7.52 Pass YPA


Not real good. The good news, however, is even with a 10 play differential it's still basically a toss up. My take away is that if we can basically run an even or positive number of plays we will win this game. Whether that's converting 3 more 3rd downs and/or stopping 3 more 3rd downs.
This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 3:00 pm
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62739 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 7:08 pm to
quote:

We run about 10 less than our opponent (A&M, Auburn, LSU, State). That's not good.


Can we all say "3rd downs are important"?

This down has been our Achilles' heel for the entire month of November, both on offense and defense. Last year against Clemson, I think we converted 2 all night. 2.
This must improve dramatically.
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