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re: Class of 2026 Football Recruiting
Posted on 12/28/23 at 9:33 am to Bamadog75
Posted on 12/28/23 at 9:33 am to Bamadog75
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These kids are coddled to hell and back
They all coddled because they have to be as the majority of them would never get into college without being the athlete they are.
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You can't let the media and ignorant people like you tell universities what to do
This started actually with athletes from UCLA and Northwestern who have been pushing for it along with unionizing.
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people are fed up with the constant bull crap that's only getting worse and stop attending as many games and stop watching
This started long before NIL. I know many people including myself no longer attend as many games as possible nowadays and this was before NIL became an issue. It started with huge TV contracts that created greed among the haves. Tickets prices are ridiculous, concessions are as well and not worth it, and the expense for the rest of the logistics including hotels, gas, and whatnot.
Now I am not supporting NIL in its current format but it is that way because those with the power to change it ignored because of the money they were making. So do not blame fans or media you disagree with. Blame the universities, programs, and anyone who could have had rules in place for not dealing with it when they had the chance. Everyone saw this coming for years but again it got ignored.
This post was edited on 12/28/23 at 9:35 am
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Posted on 12/28/23 at 9:46 am to TideWarrior
I thought this was the watch and weapons photography megathread. Where did that go?
Posted on 12/28/23 at 9:51 am to YStar
Wtf are talking about they don't get paid? They get 100s of thousands of dollars in payment. If you can't see that the product that is put out today is not as good as it use to be then your blind.
These kids care about one thing only now how much I can get paid. These smaller schools are just minor leagues to bigger schools. It's stupid, if a player has a good year then he leaves for more money. If that's good for the kids that they have no loyalty to their school who gave them their start. All these bowl games are useless I haven't watched one game so far and won't until the playoffs. I use to watch ever game. Maybe I'm in the minority but it's not watchable anymore kinda like watching spring games.
These kids care about one thing only now how much I can get paid. These smaller schools are just minor leagues to bigger schools. It's stupid, if a player has a good year then he leaves for more money. If that's good for the kids that they have no loyalty to their school who gave them their start. All these bowl games are useless I haven't watched one game so far and won't until the playoffs. I use to watch ever game. Maybe I'm in the minority but it's not watchable anymore kinda like watching spring games.
This post was edited on 12/28/23 at 9:53 am
Posted on 12/28/23 at 10:22 am to YStar
Look if this will save us from turning one or two of old man shouting at the sky post into this I am happy to post when a recruit commits to Bama the following... "Capitalism worked for Bama again and the economic structures in place has given Bama a distinct advantage in this recruitment. It may work better for others at times but in this case the Crimson Tide came out on top. It is flawed system that we too take advantage of with players only receiving a small amount of the benefits personally and financially for what they sacrifice, as opposed to what the colleges and coaches benefit. There is strong likelihood we offered more money in this player's recruitment making us no better than anyone else." Would my post be enough to prevent this madness anytime someone makes a post that remotely sounds like someone else paid for a player and that is a bad thing? 
I am happy to do it.
I am happy to do it. Posted on 12/28/23 at 10:26 am to Bamadog75
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These kids care about one thing only now how much I can get paid.
Every major recruit has always been about that except before NIL it was about what school could get them to the NFL and get paid.
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These smaller schools are just minor leagues to bigger schools. It's stupid, if a player has a good year then he leaves for more money.
Again before NIL we got transfers like other top schools with players hoping to get a higher draft spot. The transfer portal changes have caused more issues instead of NIL. As YStar mentioned no one was complaining when we brought in transfer like Dickerson.
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no loyalty to their school
For the most part never has. Even under Saban the majority of players come here to play for Saban not UA.
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All these bowl games are useless
Been that way for a long time because of TV money which created tie-ins for the major conferences that now allow bad teams to play. Half the bowl games should be eliminated if they want to create a good product on the field.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 10:32 am to Bamadog75
Thank You, agree 100%
Posted on 12/28/23 at 10:49 am to Carlton
Lol see this would be a fair assessment
Posted on 12/28/23 at 10:52 am to TideWarrior
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It started with huge TV contracts that created greed among the haves. Tickets prices are ridiculous, concessions are as well and not worth it, and the expense for the rest of the logistics including hotels, gas, and whatnot.
Exactly what I said.
These guys just hate players so it's easier to point the finger at them when the real issue was they turned college football hugely into an for-profit institution where the networks, schools, presidents, ADs, coaches, etc.... were all making a killing and then attempted to leave out the players and have stringent consistent regulations to put up a fence (some hurt us in both football and basketball!).
Instead of them creating a system to cut the players in at a controlled level they were greedy and now everyone is paying for it.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 10:56 am to TideWarrior
You are like crazy liberal,talking to you and trying to reason is useless. You have the answer for everything. Like I said before if can't see that college football is like a runaway train headed for a disaster than when it finally wrecks I don't want to hear people like you saying why aren't people watching anymore.
What you fail to realize is that we the fans make these universities and the coaches and the players their money. So if it gets to the point like it has for the NBA were people just are fed up with it then so be it.
What you fail to realize is that we the fans make these universities and the coaches and the players their money. So if it gets to the point like it has for the NBA were people just are fed up with it then so be it.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 11:09 am to Bamadog75
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ike I said before if can't see that college football is like a runaway train headed for a disaster than when it finally wrecks
Did anyone say that. I think everyone sees that just different direction the blame is being pointed.
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What you fail to realize is that we the fans make these universities and the coaches and the players their money.
The money is from TV contracts which gamble on the hope that fans will continue to watch the sport. But I as a fan contribute very little to the overall revenue. I watch the game for free and no money I spend now goes to the tv networks or the university unless I see a game in person which usually now is only to an opposing venue to visit a place I have never been before.
The only things the fans are truly responsible for is creating the free-market system that we now have with free agency in the transfer portal and NIL (buying players). This is driven more by the fans at top programs that will do and support whatever will help their team win a national championship.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 11:57 am to YStar
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These guys just hate players so it's easier to point the finger at them when the real issue was they turned college football hugely into an for-profit institution where the networks, schools, presidents, ADs, coaches, etc.... were all making a killing and then attempted to leave out the players and have stringent consistent regulations to put up a fence (some hurt us in both football and basketball!).
Instead of them creating a system to cut the players in at a controlled level they were greedy and now everyone is paying for it.
Who hates the players? I don't get why you say that. I have nothing against the players. I love my kids more than life itself, but I don't give them everything they want. I'm not going to argue with you anymore because it's useless. But I do know that these kids for the most part benefit from structure that a coach gives them. If it wasn't for college football a lot of these kids would be left without an education. I don't even mind these kids getting paid money it's just got to be more controlled and not the wild wild west.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 12:11 pm to Bamadog75
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You are like crazy liberal,talking to you and trying to reason is useless.
I have never been called that before, but you have yet to reason with anyone. On the contrary that anyone that disagrees with you is wrong does not show an attempt at reason. In fact, I think most agree the current landscape of college athletics and the path it is on does not bode well for its future or what the fans enjoy. But with you it is all or nothing. That everyone has to agree with every point or else they are wrong.
Remember this is a message board where everyone shares an opinion. There are no posting rules that require people to agree, and someone's opinion may have merit and to some extent even validity though their opinion differs from yours.
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You have the answer for everything.
You seem to think you do and believe it is the only right answer. In the end it is only an opinion what you post.
This post was edited on 12/28/23 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 12/28/23 at 12:21 pm to Bamadog75
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But I do know that these kids for the most part benefit from structure that a coach gives them. If it wasn't for college football a lot of these kids would be left without an education
I have yet to see anyone disagree with this.
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I don't even mind these kids getting paid money it's just got to be more controlled and not the wild wild west.
Again, I have not seen anyone disagree with this sentiment.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 12:33 pm to TideSaint
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However, the NFL has a collective bargaining agreement that prevents universal free agency, sets a salary cap and allows parity.
This is where the issue is along with the portal.
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This NIL system doesn't do that. We're looking at the end of college football as we know it unless something changes.
How would you handle it moving forward?
I do not think we can unless the courts step in and that may not end well for anyone. This will end up with athletes being employees which will affect so many sports and maybe be the end to them at many universities.
They should have created a system before it started down this path. I would have rather seen:
Incoming freshman cannot receive NIL. That way they earn it going into their second year unless red shirted. But it would eliminate the buying recruits that may or may not succeed on the field. It would also put the focus on the player to buy into the system and get acclimated.
Once they can receive NIL it all goes into a trust for when they either graduate or are at least 3 years plus 1 year remove from the program either by going to the NFL or leaving college. Eliminate the focus of spending and worrying about things not football related.
Have any agent/financial advisor be certified to actually help handle these NIL deals. Eliminate the relative or someone close to the family making bad decisions for these kids not in that kid's interest.
Change the transfer portal window until after NSD in February. It would allow coaches to focus on finishing up their rosters after the playoffs, both NSD, and declaring for draft takes place. Also for coaches playing in post season can focus on their teams. This would give everyone on both sides to make the best decision.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 12:52 pm to TideWarrior
I miss Surge. He wouldn't have let this pointless discussion ramble on for 5 pages.
Having to scroll through pages of guys arguing and calling each other morons with occasional recruiting and portal news sprinkled in (if you can find it) is so stupid.
Having to scroll through pages of guys arguing and calling each other morons with occasional recruiting and portal news sprinkled in (if you can find it) is so stupid.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 1:07 pm to Goombaw
Between this constant nagging of a thread and the thread on the SEC rant saying Freeze has taken over control of recruiting over Saban and Bama I can't seem to find any new news. Has there been any more updates on Ryan Williams since Auburn fans are so confident in his switch and that it is a done deal. I can't find anything that shows he has de-committed from us.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 1:08 pm to Goombaw
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I miss Surge. He wouldn't have let this pointless discussion ramble on for 5 pages
He sure wouldn't have. He would completely delete the recruiting thread rather then have non recruiting discussion in the thread. You have to admire his hatred of off topic discussion.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 1:15 pm to cdur86
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Has there been any more updates on Ryan Williams since Auburn fans
Nothing has changed. He is signing on his birthday and Auburn feels confident
Posted on 12/28/23 at 1:15 pm to Goombaw
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I miss Surge. He wouldn't have let this pointless discussion ramble on for 5 pages.
Having to scroll through pages of guys arguing and calling each other morons with occasional recruiting and portal news sprinkled in (if you can find it) is so stupid.
So you are contributing to the same discussion.
Posted on 12/28/23 at 1:18 pm to remaster916
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He sure wouldn't have. He would completely delete the recruiting thread rather then have non recruiting discussion in the thread. You have to admire his hatred of off topic discussion.
The best part of this forum use to be the OT daily thread we had.
But not sure why talking about recruiting and the direction of it should not be allowed in a thread about recruiting.
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