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Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:53 am to Gj4Bama
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:53 am to Gj4Bama
LSU football: Ed Orgeron is just Les Miles with an accent
Every year, LSU makes an awesome hype video, College GameDay is in attendance and the fans think this is the year that the Tigers beat Alabama.
And for the eighth straight year, that pre-game feeling has quickly disappeared moments after kick-off. Alabama clinched the SEC West with Saturday’s win at LSU that also knocked the Tigers out of consideration for a berth in the College Football Playoff.
LSU would have had a chance against Alabama if only they could find some offense. Stop me if you’ve heard that same refrain out of LSU for the better part of the last decade.
Meanwhile, Alabama got all the offense they’d need in this game in the first half that saw Heisman front-runner, Tua Tagovailoa, throw a pair of touchdowns as the Crimson Tide took a 16-0 lead to halftime.
But there was no hope of a second-half comeback. Not with this personnel and not with Ed Orgeron on the sidelines.
As great as Orgeron is as a motivator, recruiter and commands the love and respect of his players, he’s not the kind of coach who can match wits with Nick Saban. Then again, no coach is. Having said that, what Orgeron has done in his limited time as the LSU head coach is no different from the end of the Les Miles era.
Even at the peak of the Miles era at LSU when they could beat Alabama in the regular season because of their great defense, the offense was severely lacking. That was the case tonight as Joe Burrow couldn’t find any windows to fit his passes and the once-proud LSU running game was nowhere to be found. Alabama outgained LSU 281-12 on the ground and 576-196 overall.
That’s not LSU football. But it is when they play Alabama.
LSU has been held to 17 or fewer points in eight straight games against Alabama, the lone win being a 9-6 overtime win in 2011.
This game felt reminiscent of the 2012 BCS National Championship Game when LSU lost 21-0. That game was over early when it was clear they couldn’t generate any sort of offense. The defense has to play perfectly to have a chance against Alabama. That’s especially true with Tagovailoa under center leading Alabama to a No. 1 scoring offense of more than 54 points per game. It got late early in Tiger Stadium on Saturday and it brought back that all-too-familiar feeling of helplessness under Miles.
Orgeron is great in front of a camera. He’s got the great gravelly voice with his Cajun accent. His players love and respect him. But the results are the same as Miles, who was run out-of-town because of his inability to adapt his offensive philosophy and beat Alabama.
More proof that he’s not a championship head coach is settling for a field goal while trailing 22-0 in the fourth quarter. You play to win the game, not settle for field goals to avoid a shutout. The football gods were looking down and the kick was missed to preserve the shutout.
Orgeron won’t be run out-of-town after this loss, but he will have to do what Miles couldn’t if he’s going to avoid the same fate as his predecessor in the next few years.
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Orgeron is great in front of a camera. He’s got the great gravelly voice with his Cajun accent. His players love and respect him. But the results are the same as Miles, who was run out-of-town because of his inability to adapt his offensive philosophy and beat Alabama.
Every year, LSU makes an awesome hype video, College GameDay is in attendance and the fans think this is the year that the Tigers beat Alabama.
And for the eighth straight year, that pre-game feeling has quickly disappeared moments after kick-off. Alabama clinched the SEC West with Saturday’s win at LSU that also knocked the Tigers out of consideration for a berth in the College Football Playoff.
LSU would have had a chance against Alabama if only they could find some offense. Stop me if you’ve heard that same refrain out of LSU for the better part of the last decade.
Meanwhile, Alabama got all the offense they’d need in this game in the first half that saw Heisman front-runner, Tua Tagovailoa, throw a pair of touchdowns as the Crimson Tide took a 16-0 lead to halftime.
But there was no hope of a second-half comeback. Not with this personnel and not with Ed Orgeron on the sidelines.
As great as Orgeron is as a motivator, recruiter and commands the love and respect of his players, he’s not the kind of coach who can match wits with Nick Saban. Then again, no coach is. Having said that, what Orgeron has done in his limited time as the LSU head coach is no different from the end of the Les Miles era.
Even at the peak of the Miles era at LSU when they could beat Alabama in the regular season because of their great defense, the offense was severely lacking. That was the case tonight as Joe Burrow couldn’t find any windows to fit his passes and the once-proud LSU running game was nowhere to be found. Alabama outgained LSU 281-12 on the ground and 576-196 overall.
That’s not LSU football. But it is when they play Alabama.
LSU has been held to 17 or fewer points in eight straight games against Alabama, the lone win being a 9-6 overtime win in 2011.
This game felt reminiscent of the 2012 BCS National Championship Game when LSU lost 21-0. That game was over early when it was clear they couldn’t generate any sort of offense. The defense has to play perfectly to have a chance against Alabama. That’s especially true with Tagovailoa under center leading Alabama to a No. 1 scoring offense of more than 54 points per game. It got late early in Tiger Stadium on Saturday and it brought back that all-too-familiar feeling of helplessness under Miles.
Orgeron is great in front of a camera. He’s got the great gravelly voice with his Cajun accent. His players love and respect him. But the results are the same as Miles, who was run out-of-town because of his inability to adapt his offensive philosophy and beat Alabama.
More proof that he’s not a championship head coach is settling for a field goal while trailing 22-0 in the fourth quarter. You play to win the game, not settle for field goals to avoid a shutout. The football gods were looking down and the kick was missed to preserve the shutout.
Orgeron won’t be run out-of-town after this loss, but he will have to do what Miles couldn’t if he’s going to avoid the same fate as his predecessor in the next few years.
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This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 10:37 am
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:18 am to Gj4Bama
Notable November Official Visitors
(List does not include UA commits)
Miss State Weekend
4* OLB Khris Bogle 6-4/220 FL hudl
4* RB Deondrick Glass 5-11/200 TX hudl
4* S Jordan Battle 6-1/187 FL hudl
4* TE Keon Zipperer 6-3/230 FL hudl
Iron Bowl Weekend
5* RB Trey Sanders 6-0/214 IMG/FL hudl
4* RB Kenny McIntosh 6-1/206 FL hudl
5* OT Evan Neal 6-7.5/360 IMG/FL hudl
5* ILB Nakobe Dean 6-0/220 MS hudl (UV)
4* DT Siaki Ika 6-3/351 UT hudl
5* OLB Nolan Smith 6-3/232 IMG/GA hudl
4* DE Ty Robinson 6-6/285 AZ hudl
4* CB/S Noa Pola-Gates 6-1/180 AZ hudl
4* CB Jeffery Carter 6-0/185 TX hudl
Note: Subject to changes. Dean OVd in June. Clay Webb is also expected to visit (unofficial) for the Iron Bowl and Nathan Pickering is also considering an Iron Bowl OV.

(List does not include UA commits)
Miss State Weekend
4* OLB Khris Bogle 6-4/220 FL hudl
4* RB Deondrick Glass 5-11/200 TX hudl
4* S Jordan Battle 6-1/187 FL hudl
4* TE Keon Zipperer 6-3/230 FL hudl
Iron Bowl Weekend
5* RB Trey Sanders 6-0/214 IMG/FL hudl
4* RB Kenny McIntosh 6-1/206 FL hudl
5* OT Evan Neal 6-7.5/360 IMG/FL hudl
5* ILB Nakobe Dean 6-0/220 MS hudl (UV)
4* DT Siaki Ika 6-3/351 UT hudl
5* OLB Nolan Smith 6-3/232 IMG/GA hudl
4* DE Ty Robinson 6-6/285 AZ hudl
4* CB/S Noa Pola-Gates 6-1/180 AZ hudl
4* CB Jeffery Carter 6-0/185 TX hudl
Note: Subject to changes. Dean OVd in June. Clay Webb is also expected to visit (unofficial) for the Iron Bowl and Nathan Pickering is also considering an Iron Bowl OV.
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:21 am to TidalSurge1
Surge I know you work hard at this, hate to ask for more, but anyway you can add "OV" next to kids on officials?
Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:11 am to TidalSurge1
Wiltfong's Nov-5 status updates on top 5-stars:
Trey Sanders - "Alabama had all the buzz during the summer... and the Crimson Tide still look like the one to beat..."
Clay Webb - "My Crystal Ball remains with the Bulldogs but it wouldn’t be surprising to see this one go a few different ways..."
Evan Neal - "Sources indicate it’s Alabama back in the driver's seat..."
Darnell Wright - "I continue to like Tennessee for the Huntington (WV) prospect who’s been to Knoxville several times..."
Ishmael Sopsher - "It sounds like the Crimson Tide have taken control of this recruitment and are in pole position..."
Nakobe Dean - "Many sources that thought Georgia was in the driver's seat in the spring and summer believe Alabama has moved back up..."
Kayvon Thibodeaux - "My forecast remains on Alabama and sources continue to indicate the Tide are in the thick of this recruitment..."
Nolan Smith - "Well, Smith is still a soft commit to Georgia — but Alabama is now the program you can’t rule out for the elite edge talent..."

Trey Sanders - "Alabama had all the buzz during the summer... and the Crimson Tide still look like the one to beat..."
Clay Webb - "My Crystal Ball remains with the Bulldogs but it wouldn’t be surprising to see this one go a few different ways..."
Evan Neal - "Sources indicate it’s Alabama back in the driver's seat..."
Darnell Wright - "I continue to like Tennessee for the Huntington (WV) prospect who’s been to Knoxville several times..."
Ishmael Sopsher - "It sounds like the Crimson Tide have taken control of this recruitment and are in pole position..."
Nakobe Dean - "Many sources that thought Georgia was in the driver's seat in the spring and summer believe Alabama has moved back up..."
Kayvon Thibodeaux - "My forecast remains on Alabama and sources continue to indicate the Tide are in the thick of this recruitment..."
Nolan Smith - "Well, Smith is still a soft commit to Georgia — but Alabama is now the program you can’t rule out for the elite edge talent..."
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:46 am to Tide or Die87
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Nolan Smith???
I read it more as him saying US as in UGA. Meaning he laughs that they are gonna beat bama all 4 years and will then just lose to UGA.
could be wrong thats just how I read it.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:49 am to JohnnyUtah
Could be lol i didnt think that far ahead
Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:51 am to JohnnyUtah
That makes no sense. I think he is trolling though. Smith was responding to THL's tweet which was in response to Thomas's tweet. UGA has nothing to do with it it all.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 11:59 am to TidalSurge1
If your goal is to play NFL football, how in the hell do you go to Tennessee to further your football career ?
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:03 pm to PowHound
Surge -They haven't posted the picks for next week yet! Must be depressed.
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This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:08 pm to Taskrj
My Overall Score is 74 - 58 Overall Rank is 827
Last week: 9 - 2 Rank 49 I've had a few bad weeks!
Last week: 9 - 2 Rank 49 I've had a few bad weeks!
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:12 pm to PowHound
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If your goal is to play NFL football, how in the hell do you go to Tennessee to further your football career ?
A ton of kids buy into the "be a part of returning [once great but now total shite program] to glory" recruiting pitch. The fact that UTk is a model for instability means nothing to a lot of these guys, even though recent history all but ensures that they will experience a coaching change at some point in their careers at the UT-Chattanooga satellite campus.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:14 pm to Robot Santa
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:27 pm to PowHound
5 star recruit it usually does not mater where they go they still make it to the league
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:30 pm to TideWarrior
We just got 2 CB's for Jordan Battle, a 4* Safety and OSU commit.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:33 pm to TidalSurge1
Webb continues to baffle me. How do you grow up in the State of Ala, not be a barn fan, and not want to play for the Coach who could possibly replace Bryant as the best ever? When I meet older guys who played for Bryant, I am in awe! The stories that they tell about how it has affected their lives and the doors it has opened is amazing. To possibly pass on that opportunity is just stupid.
Having said all that, maybe we still get him
Having said all that, maybe we still get him
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:50 pm to RammerJammer91
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We just got 2 CB's for Jordan Battle, a 4* Safety and OSU commit.
Both CBs are from Ohio State beat reporters.
ETA: 247 CEO Shannon Terry just CBd Jordan Battle to Bama too.
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 11/5/18 at 12:59 pm to TidalSurge1
Video of Tua interrupting The Coach Saban Show to get a hug
Twitter video
Coach is getting soft on us
Twitter video
Coach is getting soft on us
Posted on 11/5/18 at 1:01 pm to BABAR
Clay Webb is from Alabama, but has an aunt and uncle (Dawg fans) who live in Athens, GA and his former Oxford HS coach (Bates) is at Clemson now. He's been visiting UGA, Clemson and Bama (AU too but less) for games this fall. He likes all three OL coaches, but he has said Brent Key is like an uncle to him. He's also good friends with Pierce Quick and Paul Tyson. Webb has been very tight-lipped -- hard to predict his decision. Some BOL insiders are pretty confident he'll sign with Bama, some not so much.
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 11/5/18 at 1:10 pm to TideWarrior
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5 star recruit it usually does not matter where they go they still make it to the league.
Somewhat true, but the percentage of 5-stars who get drafted is much higher for those who play at Bama. NFL personnel guys definitely value Bama's player development.
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 1:11 pm
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