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re: Class of 2019 Recruiting MEGATHREAD: That's a Wrap Edition
Posted on 8/14/18 at 2:19 pm to seanpendleton10
Posted on 8/14/18 at 2:19 pm to seanpendleton10
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Who would have thought, is pierce quick still a 5 star ?
Who would've thought you could get an answer to that question quicker by simply going to the first post in this thread and clicking on Pierce Quick's name to find out if he's still a five star?
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 2:22 pm
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Posted on 8/14/18 at 2:45 pm to Carlton
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We got three extremely talented guys starting and great talent on reserve and folks thinking about someone who might not qualify. Gattis will go get Fleming if it makes ya'll feel better.
It's one of the stranger melts that I've seen. We have the number 1 class in the country but we have some fans in a panic about a receiver who is a grade risk at a position we are stacked at and a QB that is an Auburn legacy. No one had a shot to sign Nix except for Auburn.
I try to be understanding with things, but this melt is flat out crazy and comes across as extremely spoiled
Posted on 8/14/18 at 2:47 pm to TideWarrior
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I thought I remember in the past we could only fill so many spots. There was a player a few years ago that wanted to be an EE and we would not let him come in for the spring. Can not remember if he went elsewhere and think he did.
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I just remember issues with Dee Hart and IIRC correctly we lost out on Massington the WR because there was no EE spot.
I can't address those vague past scenarios your pointing to. I have no idea what Bama's numbers situations were back then. There also may have been NCAA Bylaws changes since then that are pertinent. Iirc, you had some incorrect notions about the counter rules for football players on non-football scholarships that you insisted were correct. I'm not trying to be an smartass, but I don't care to speculate about or discuss your notions about those past players' situations. I posted a link that maybe you should click on. It provides the NCAA Bylaws pertaining to signing and counter limits, as well as some other helpful info about them.
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 8/14/18 at 5:11 pm to Cobrasize
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It's one of the stranger melts that I've seen. We have the number 1 class in the country but we have some fans in a panic about a receiver who is a grade risk at a position we are stacked at and a QB that is an Auburn legacy. No one had a shot to sign Nix except for Auburn.
I try to be understanding with things, but this melt is flat out crazy and comes across as extremely spoiled
Kinda funny that its the same ones that freak out every year.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 5:15 pm to TidalSurge1
What ever happens to the two players we signed and enrolled that the NCAA totally fricked over and had to leave? One was a DL Alfy? And the other was a running back from maybe Vigor?
Posted on 8/14/18 at 5:26 pm to A-TOWNUAFAN
Ask TideWarrior. 
Posted on 8/14/18 at 5:36 pm to TidalSurge1
This is a board to share info and I asked you as the local guru here.
In reference to the players I mentioned you can google it and can even find post on this board discussing it back then. Not a notion but whatever
In reference to the players I mentioned you can google it and can even find post on this board discussing it back then. Not a notion but whatever
Posted on 8/14/18 at 5:37 pm to A-TOWNUAFAN
Jalston Fowler was the vigor rb. He was a beast for us. How can you forget him?
He was drafted in the 4th round. Unfortunately, Seattle cut him yesterday.
Alfy Hill ended up at a small school. Here's an article from me May...
Good for Phillip too. No clue if they made the team.
He was drafted in the 4th round. Unfortunately, Seattle cut him yesterday.
Alfy Hill ended up at a small school. Here's an article from me May...
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Quarterback Phillip Sims and defensive end Alfy Hill, both former Winston-Salem State players, have signed rookie free-agent contracts with the Arizona Cardinals
Good for Phillip too. No clue if they made the team.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 5:38 pm to TidalSurge1
Surge you act like the posters on tidefans. Maybe you came from there but you want to be an arse go for it but no reason to attack me.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 5:41 pm to A-TOWNUAFAN
A Hill got the really short end of the stick. Signed and enrolled for summer. Passed his summer classes and then the NCAA came back and declared a online HS course he took not meeting a requirement even though his school offers many classes that way due to being underfunded.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 5:42 pm to TideWarrior
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Surge you act like the posters on tidefans. Maybe you came from there but you want to be an arse go for it but no reason to attack me.
I didn't attack you. I think your post qualifies as as a personal attack post tho.This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 8/14/18 at 5:47 pm to CCTider
It wasn't Jalston. It was Desherrius Flowers (class of 2015) the RB that came in Jan was all set and when Fall Camp started he was not qualified (just like Alfy) and Flowers went to JC. Enrolled in Jones Co JC after completing JC went to Grambling
Posted on 8/14/18 at 6:04 pm to TideWarrior
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This is a board to share info and I asked you as the local guru here.
In reference to the players I mentioned you can google it and can even find post on this board discussing it back then. Not a notion but whatever
You asked me how Bama's numbers affect how many EEs they can take. I answered you by explaining how the 25 signings limit, 25 initial counters limit, 85 total counters limit and Midyear Replacement rule affect EEs. I think I was pretty thorough and made it pretty clear that there's no special separate limitation on EEs except for EEs that are backcounted via the Midyear Replacement option.
Then you cited examples of past situations that you seemed to be saying don't fit with what I posted. But you didn't provide any details about the situations or what any of Bama's numbers were at the time. I responded that I can't assess those situations without all of those details and I also stated that pertinent rules could've changed since then.
Therefore, what happened back then with those players is actually irrelevant anyway. It has no affect on how many EEs Bama can take in the 2019 cycle. Now you sound like you feel I should've googled and researched and figured out all those past details and rules back then. Wtf?
Here's a simpler more direct answer to your original question: We can sign 25 guys in the 2019 class and all 25 of them can enroll as soon as they're eligible -- i.e., as soon as they're HS graduates and are academically qualified. If all 25 are eligible to enroll "early" during January though summer of the 2018-19 academic year, then they all can.
All of our 2018 class signees count as 2018-19 academic year signees and initial counters. All of them except Jordan Davis and Ale Kaho enrolled on scholarships "early" during Jan-July of the 2017-18 academic year.
The NCAA rules aren't designed to prevent the next academic year's signees and initial counters from enrolling "early" after the fall term and the prior football season are done. It's a good thing for them to enroll "early" and get acclimated to college life and a headstart on getting their college degrees.
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 7:12 pm
Posted on 8/14/18 at 6:17 pm to RollTide66
Updated 2019 Rivals100
*The Updated Rivals250 will be released tomorrow*
Targets/Commits in Updated 2019 Rivals100
4. OT Darnell Wright - Down 2
5. OLB Kayvon Thibodeaux - Down 1
6. RB Trey Sanders - Up 2
8. DT Ishmael Sopsher - Up 1
9. ATH Quavaris Crouch - Down 4
12. WR George Pickens (Auburn) - Up 31
22. CB Akeem Dent (FSU) - Down 2
23. OL Clay Webb - Down 13
24. S Daxton Hill - Down 3
29. OT Evan Neal - Up 16
32. ILB Nakobe Dean - Down 8
39. CB Tyrique Stevenson - No change
46. ILB Shane Lee (Alabama) - Down 5
49. OLB Khris Bogle - Up 1
57. OT Pierce Quick (Alabama) - Down 9
60. OT Amari Kight (Alabama) - Down 6
61. DT Faatui Tuitele - Down 3
66. LB Henry To’oto’o - Down 2
70. ATH Mark-Antony Richards - Down 42
75. ATH Devonta Lee - Down 31
77. S Nick Cross - Down 4
83. CB Isaiah Rutherford - Down 5
95. CB Christian Williams (Alabama) - Down 2
97. DL Antonio Alfano (Alabama) - Down 1
*The Updated Rivals250 will be released tomorrow*
Targets/Commits in Updated 2019 Rivals100
4. OT Darnell Wright - Down 2
5. OLB Kayvon Thibodeaux - Down 1
6. RB Trey Sanders - Up 2
8. DT Ishmael Sopsher - Up 1
9. ATH Quavaris Crouch - Down 4
12. WR George Pickens (Auburn) - Up 31
22. CB Akeem Dent (FSU) - Down 2
23. OL Clay Webb - Down 13
24. S Daxton Hill - Down 3
29. OT Evan Neal - Up 16
32. ILB Nakobe Dean - Down 8
39. CB Tyrique Stevenson - No change
46. ILB Shane Lee (Alabama) - Down 5
49. OLB Khris Bogle - Up 1
57. OT Pierce Quick (Alabama) - Down 9
60. OT Amari Kight (Alabama) - Down 6
61. DT Faatui Tuitele - Down 3
66. LB Henry To’oto’o - Down 2
70. ATH Mark-Antony Richards - Down 42
75. ATH Devonta Lee - Down 31
77. S Nick Cross - Down 4
83. CB Isaiah Rutherford - Down 5
95. CB Christian Williams (Alabama) - Down 2
97. DL Antonio Alfano (Alabama) - Down 1
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 8/14/18 at 6:21 pm to T Rich3
Well frick me.
This should put the "Bama bump" conspiracy theories to rest.
This should put the "Bama bump" conspiracy theories to rest.
Posted on 8/14/18 at 6:31 pm to RollTide66
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It wasn't Jalston. It was Desherrius Flowers
Yeah,Flowers was the guy. Thanks
Posted on 8/14/18 at 6:45 pm to TidalSurge1
You Salty
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 6:47 pm
Posted on 8/14/18 at 6:53 pm to T Rich3
Wait Rivals still has an website?
Posted on 8/14/18 at 6:57 pm to Carlton
wow, so does rivals target bama's class for demotion or what!
Posted on 8/14/18 at 7:00 pm to TidalSurge1
No I asked if you knew since, you seem to stay updated, on how many EEs we could sign in this class.
I could care less about some NCAA rule. I completely understand EEs, initial counters, and transfers all depend on the 85 cap. Hence the one discussion we had on here before and I stated that J Parks situation to gray shirt had nothing to do with initial counters but the 85 hard cap. I also understand how EEs work in regards to back counting as an initial counter to a prior year class or counting towards the incoming class. As I also know there are times when it is not a simple as the rules you continue to reference.
But to my question it had nothing to do with the rules. It was a simple question do you know, and apparently not by given responses, how many can we bring in as EEs. Maybe when you joined this site 2 years ago you were unfamiliar about articles, reports, and information from insiders about the number of EEs. In the past and with multiple classes we have players that have wanted to EE but could not due to limitations on the roster(yes the 85). But we also had reports and people in the know that had the number we could EE whether there back counted or added to future class.
So my question is does anyone like maybe Boz know the magic number? In the past info would come out on how many spots would open up in January either due to players graduating, using up eligibility, transferring, or leaving for the pros. I raised the question regarding Diabate who seems could fill a need but is scheduled to be an EE but looking to go elsewhere. As we have top targets(probably ahead of Diabate) like Sanders, Hill, Webb, Thib, Dean, and a few others who are also scheduled to be EEs. If taking Diabate would prevent one of them from being an EE and not coming here may be the reason we are not pushing hard fro a player like Diabate.
I could care less about some NCAA rule. I completely understand EEs, initial counters, and transfers all depend on the 85 cap. Hence the one discussion we had on here before and I stated that J Parks situation to gray shirt had nothing to do with initial counters but the 85 hard cap. I also understand how EEs work in regards to back counting as an initial counter to a prior year class or counting towards the incoming class. As I also know there are times when it is not a simple as the rules you continue to reference.
But to my question it had nothing to do with the rules. It was a simple question do you know, and apparently not by given responses, how many can we bring in as EEs. Maybe when you joined this site 2 years ago you were unfamiliar about articles, reports, and information from insiders about the number of EEs. In the past and with multiple classes we have players that have wanted to EE but could not due to limitations on the roster(yes the 85). But we also had reports and people in the know that had the number we could EE whether there back counted or added to future class.
So my question is does anyone like maybe Boz know the magic number? In the past info would come out on how many spots would open up in January either due to players graduating, using up eligibility, transferring, or leaving for the pros. I raised the question regarding Diabate who seems could fill a need but is scheduled to be an EE but looking to go elsewhere. As we have top targets(probably ahead of Diabate) like Sanders, Hill, Webb, Thib, Dean, and a few others who are also scheduled to be EEs. If taking Diabate would prevent one of them from being an EE and not coming here may be the reason we are not pushing hard fro a player like Diabate.
This post was edited on 8/14/18 at 7:03 pm
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