re: Class of 2019 Recruiting MEGATHREAD: That's a Wrap Edition

TOP TARGETS - 2019 CLASS (26-28)
26 signees + grayshirts or non-FB aid
Bold names = Bama commits (19)

Offensive Backs (4)
4* QB LINK ]Taulia Tagovailoa 6-0/203 AL hudl
4* QB LINK ]Paul Tyson 6-5/217 AL hudl
5* RB Trey Sanders 6-0/216 IMG/FL hudl
4* RB LINK ]Keilan Robinson 5-10/186 DC hudl
4* RB Deondrick Glass 5-11/200 TX hudl
4* RB Derrian Brown 5-11/185 GA hudl
4* RB Jerrion Ealy 5-9/195 MS hudl OM

Receivers & Tight Ends (3-4)
4* WR/DB LINK ]John Metchie 6-0/195 MD hudl
4* WR/S/ILB Devonta Lee 6-2/212 LA hudl
4* TE LINK ]Jahleel Billingsley 6-4/216 IL hudl
4* WR/S Milton Wright 6-3/200 KY hudl
4* WR Jameson Williams 6-2/160 MO hudl
4* WR George Pickens 6-4/190 AL hudl AU
4* WR Dylan Wright 6-3/213 TX hudl

Offensive Line (4-5)
5* OC Clay Webb 6-4/285 AL hudl
5* OL LINK ]Pierce Quick 6-5/285 AL hudl
4* OL LINK ]Tanner Bowles 6-5/280 KY hudl
4* OT LINK ]Amari Kight 6-7/315 AL hudl
5* OT Darnell Wright 6-6/314 WV hudl
4* OT Evan Neal 6-8/360 FL hudl
3* OG Kamaar Bell 6-3/320 GA hudl

Defensive Line (5-6)
4* DT LINK ]DJ Dale 6-3/320 AL hudl
5* DT Ishmael Sopsher 6-4/330 LA hudl
4* DL LINK ]Antonio Alfano 6-4/285 NJ hudl
4* DE LINK ]Justin Eboigbe 6-5/263 GA hudl
4* DE LINK ]Byron Young 6-4/279 MS hudl
4* DT Siaki Ika 6-3/347 UT hudl
4* DT Faatui Tuitele 6-4/299 HI hudl
4* DE DeMarvin Leal 6-5/280 TX hudl ATM
4* DE Nathan Pickering 6-4/286 MS hudl MSU
4* DE Stephon Wright 6-4/260 CA hudl

Linebackers (5-6)
5* OLB Kayvon Thibodeaux 6-5/235 CA hudl
4* OLB LINK ]Kevin Harris 6-4/218 GA hudl
4* LB LINK ]King Mwikuta 6-4/232 GA hudl
4* ILB LINK ]Shane Lee 6-1/240 MD hudl
5* ILB Nakobe Dean 6-0/215 MS hudl
4* ILB Henry To'oto'o 6-2/210 CA hudl
4* ILB Christian Harris 6-1/225 LA hudl
4* LB Mohamoud Diabate 6-4/220 AL hudl
4* OLB Khris Bogle 6-5/220 FL hudl

Defensive Backs (4-5)
4* S LINK ]DeMarcco Hellams 6-1/203 MD hudl
5* S/CB Daxton Hill 6-1/187 OK hudl
4* CB LINK ]Christian Williams 6-1/185 AL hudl
4* DB/WR LINK ]Brandon Turnage 6-1/185 MS hudl
5* CB Akeem Dent 6-0/175 FL hudl FSU
4* CB/S Noa Pola-Gates 6-2/180 AZ hudl
4* CB/WR Jeffery Carter 6-0/185 TX hudl
4* CB Tyrique Stevenson 6-1/190 FL hudl
4* S/NB Nick Cross 6-1/205 MD hudl

Specialists (1)
3* K/P LINK ]Will Reichard 6-1/185 AL hudl

What a dramatic sack before that play. We had a similar sack against Georgia just before, but they had an amazing kicker!! We had not so much. I remember hoping maybe we could get an intermediate play that could inch us closer for a FG. But then the bomb!!!! Was an extremely exciting way to win the NCG. I almost didnt believe my eyes.

Nope. Hell of a game to watch from down there though.

I am 52 and I felt the same way - cried and very surprised I didn’t have a heart attack lol

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Once the a recruited player receives any type of scholarship, athletic or otherwise they become an initial counter.

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Regardless of whether or not they transfered to the school, FBS players who are on non-athletic scholarships do not count toward the signees, initial counters and total counters limits until they compete (play) in a game -- according to underlined and bold text below. But, it's doubtful a transfer with less than three years of eligibility would be willing to sit out an entire season.

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15.5.6.3.7 Recruited Student-Athlete, Varsity Competition. [FBS/FCS] In accordance with Bylaw 15.5.1.2, a recruited student-athlete (per Bylaw 15.02.8) receiving institutional financial aid certified as having been granted without regard in any degree to athletics ability becomes an initial counter in the first academic year in which the student-athlete competes on the varsity level. (See Bylaw 15.5.1.2.1.) (Revised: 10/27/05 effective 8/1/06, 1/15/11 effective 8/1/11)

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So while this situation is unlikely say a player transfers with 3 years to play and doesn't see the field for 2 years. Does this mean he can practice, workout and travel with the team during that period of time and not be an initial counter until the third year if he is on a non-athletic scholarship?

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Yes. If he doesn't play he's sort of like a walk-on scout teamer who's fortunate that he has a non-athletic scholarship. But to prevent that non-athletic scholarship from being a loophole to get around signee and counter limits, he counts if/when he plays.

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Corrected: Once a recruited transfer plays in a game they become an initial counter.

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That's technically incorrect wording. A player on a non-athletic scholarship, regardless of whether he transferred in or not, will count if/when he plays in a game.

It's the same for a multisport athlete who's on the FB team but plays another sport on a scholarship for that sport. He counts toward limits in that sport unless/until he plays in a FB game. At that point he counts against the FB limits instead of the other sport. Again, that's designed to prevent a loophole for getting around the FB limits. Basketball can't get away with it either.

I've learned that you have to very carefully analyze the wording of NCAA Bylaws or else you can easily misinterpret them.

Tbh, I'm a bit baffled with this scenario. Section 15.5.6.3.7 applies to a "recruited student-athlete." A "non-recruited student-athlete" is one who had no official visit, no off-campus meetings with coaches and didn't sign an NLI. A non-transfer or a transfer could meet those criteria. So, I haven't figured out yet if a non-recruited student-athlete on a non-athletic scholarship also has to count if/when they play. It seems like they would.

Maybe somebody will give our new PK pair of those Buddy Holly glasses.....That'll Be The Day...Oh Boy

Man I just saw the biggest Hawk in my backyard. Little housedog barking at it. He just don't know that ain't the average bird lol.