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re: Class of 2017 Recruiting MEGATHREAD: Say Your Goodbyes Edition

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Posted by jatebe
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 10:50 am to
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Tua Tagovailoa ?@Tuaamann_ Jan 17 We gon have some fun one last time come Saturday ?? #TeamMariota


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Posted by TidalSurge1
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 10:58 am to
LINK ]OTHER RECRUITING NEWS
RollBamaRoll.com | Jan 17, 2017
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The new tradition of the Crimson Tide swooping into Dade County and coming back with solid gold receivers continues with 2018 Xavier Williams of Hollywood, FL making his pledge Tuesday night. The consensus 4-star ATH is willing to play either side of the ball but his future likely ends up on offense.

Alabama defensive backs coach Derrick Ansley was in Lagrange, GA visiting 2020 wide receiver Kobe Hudson and made him an offer on the spot. Yeah, this is how Nick Saban rolls...

Saban was in Oxford on Monday to see 2019 4-star OG Clay Webb's wrestling match.

2018 ATH/QB Gerry Bohanon of Earle, AR received an offer from the Tide this week. Expect Bert to follow suit any day now.

Auburn may be close to losing their one and only 5-star commit OT Calvin Ashley to Maryland.

Dabo Swinney must have put all his efforts into this 2016 football season because his Tigers have only 13 commits and none of them are early enrollees.

Notre Dame may finish out of the top 10 in recruiting for this cycle.

Jim Harbaugh's recruiting efforts just took a second big shot to the chops after his best recruiter Tyrone Wheatley departs Michigan for the Jacksonville Jaguars. The running backs coach and Wolverines legendhad been the lead recruiter on Nico Collins. Harbaugh lost his second best recruiter, wide receivers coach Jedd Fisch, earlier this month to UCLA where he will be offensive coordinator.

Read into this whatever you want but Alabama and Auburn do not seem to have any recruiting battles this year. Or last year for that matter. LSU is the Tide's biggest recruiting foe.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:00 am to
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Rivals.com National Recruiting Director Mike Farrell’s Three-Point Stance is here with a look at how difficult it is becoming to identify the top prospect in each class, a rundown of potential five-star busts from the 2017 class and a reason to pay attention to the No. 99 prospect in the Rivals100.


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Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:00 am to
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1. HARDER AND HARDER TO IDENTIFY NO. 1 PROSPECT

I remember the days of four or five ranking cycles per class and surefire No. 1 prospects that were never debated throughout the year. From Vince Young to Adrian Peterson to Percy Harvin to Terrelle Pryor, Jadeveon Clowney, Dorial Green-Beckham and Robert Nkemdiche, it was bell-to-bell without much worry.

But since 2014, the year we stuck with Da’Shawn Hand over Myles Garrett, the final debate for that No. 1 spot has been as hard as ever. That's the result of an over-evaluation factor. We see these kids so often and end up second guessing ourselves, and more ranking cycles (Rivals.com has eight per class now) leads to more debate.

So while Garrett is set to be drafted in the first round of the NFL Draft this April, Hand will be pushing to earn a starting job at Alabama. And as Josh Rosen tries to bounce back from injury to become the top quarterback in the 2018 NFL Draft, Byron Cowart might not even be a starter at Auburn next season. Last year we chose Rashan Gary over Dexter Lawrence and, while both will be great, Lawrence has had the bigger early impact.

This year, with the 2017 class, going with running back Najee Harris instead of a safer bet such as defensive tackle Marvin Wilson or running back Cam Akers, who has a clearer path to early playing time, is a tricky move. Harris could win a Heisman Trophy or transfer out after not winning a starting job. No one knows.

The only thing I know is this: Determining the No. 1 prospect in a class isn’t as easy as it used to be, and that makes the rankings that much more interesting.

Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:02 am to
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2. FIVE-STAR BUST FACTOR

Five-star prospects, much like first-round draft picks, occasionally bust out. It happens. Factors like injury, attitude, impatience, coaching changes or simply not developing as expected make many five-stars end up looking overrated.

I’m here to rate the potential bust factor of each of our 34 five-stars in the 2017 class, something no one else will have the guts to do.

The BUST FACTOR ranges from MEDIUM to LOW. There is no HIGH, because we wouldn’t rank someone a five-star if we felt there was a good chance they would bust out. Finally, these are my personal opinions and do not reflect the opinion of the Rivals.com analyst team as a whole.

1. RB Najee Harris – MEDIUM – How can the No. 1 player in the country have a medium grade? Harris is headed across the country into a crowded backfield and might not have the patience to wait his turn as others have.

2. DT Marvin Wilson – LOW – Wilson’s motor makes him a low risk option. He will be successful not matter what barring injury.

3. RB Cam Akers – MEDIUM – Akers only issue is moving from quarterback, albeit a running quarterback, to running back, so some nuances of the position will need to be learned. I view him as having a lower bust factor than Harris, but Harris has the higher ceiling.

4. OT Alex Leatherwood – LOW – With his size and improved technique, he’s at worst a mauling guard and at best the next Cam Robinson.

5. DE Josh Kaindoh – LOW – Kaindoh needs to fill out and add strength, but his quickness and length keep his bust factor very low.

6. DE Jaelan Phillips – MEDIUM – Phillips is a freaky athlete who is really raw right now. If he learns to play with his hand in the ground, watch out.

7. OT Walker Little – LOW – Walker is technically sound, smart and has great size and length.

8. DE Chase Young – LOW – Young has a great motor, good length and a big frame to add size. His boundless energy and love for the game makes him low risk.

9. LB Baron Browning – LOW – Browning does remind me a bit of Ohio State bust Curtis Grant, so medium is tempting, but there is a better foundation for success at Ohio State now than when Grant arrived.

10. QB Davis Mills – MEDIUM – Quarterbacks are always medium even if Mills is a great fit at Stanford.

11. CB Lamont Wade – LOW – Wade can play corner, safety, nickel and special teams.

12. WR Donovan Peoples-Jones – LOW – A big receiver who can stretch the field will be a success.

13. CB AJ Terrell – MEDIUM – Tall corners have a high boom or bust factor and Terrell is still raw.

14. OL Foster Sarell – MEDIUM – Lack of competition in high school and difficulty handling speed at Army Bowl makes him medium.

15. WR Tee Higgins – LOW – The next A.J. Green? Could be.

16. S Jeffrey Okudah – LOW – A safety who can play corner, very little risk.

17. OL Isaiah Wilson – MEDIUM – A massive offensive lineman who could start off at guard and move to tackle.

18. QB Hunter Johnson – MEDIUM – Quarterbacks are tough to call and Johnson tends to turn the ball over, although that didn’t hurt the last Clemson signal caller.

19. WR Jerry Jeudy – LOW – Fast with great hands and can get separation easily, low risk.

20. QB Jake Fromm – MEDIUM – He’s going into the right offense for him, but will he beat out Jacob Eason, wait his turn or be impatient?

21. QB Kellen Mond – MEDIUM – Downfield accuracy is his issue but he has the “it” factor to me, similar to Deshaun Watson.

22. OL Wyatt Davis – LOW – Mauling guards his size with light feet usually do well.

23. RB Kahalan Laborn – MEDIUM – Competing with another five-star makes it tough and he isn’t a natural inside runner.

24. CB Shaun Wade – MEDIUM – High boom and bust factor equals medium grade.

25. OL Jedrick Wills – LOW – He’ll be a tackle or a guard and has amazing technique.

26. LB Jordan Anthony – LOW – Not long but his willingness to hit and motor makes him low risk.

27. CB Darnay Holmes – MEDIUM – Holmes ability in single coverage hasn’t improved as much as expected.

28. S JaCoby Stevens – LOW – One of the best pure athletes in this class. He will be a star at LSU.

29. LB Jacob Phillips – LOW – A big, physical inside linebacker will be effective barring injury.

30. DE A.J. Epenesa – MEDIUM – He’ll play early at Iowa, but I question whether he can dominate.

31. DT Aubrey Solomon – LOW – Gap-shooting athletic defensive tackles will always see the field.

32. LB Dylan Moses – MEDIUM – Is he a pure linebacker yet or just a great athlete? I still have my doubts.

Posted by jatebe
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:15 am to
Need to get one of these put in Tuscaloosa.

Stars and Strikes to create 100 jobs at first Alabama entertainment venue (Huntsville)

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Stars and Strikes will launch its first location outside the state of Georgia in September at Madison Plaza on 930 Old Monrovia Road N.W. The 54,000-square-foot venue will have 24 bowling lanes, a 7,000-square-foot arcade and prize store, bumper cars, and a two-story laser tag arena.
Posted by narddogg81
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 11:26 am to
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32. LB Dylan Moses – MEDIUM – Is he a pure linebacker yet or just a great athlete? I still have my doubts.
guy was the best linebacker and leading tackler on probably the best high school team in the country, and then was the best linebacker at his all American game, and won the high school butkus award. Why are we still hearing this "is he a linebacker" bullshite?
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:04 pm to
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Jim Harbaugh's recruiting efforts just took a second big shot to the chops after his best recruiter Tyrone Wheatley departs Michigan for the Jacksonville Jaguars. The running backs coach and Wolverines legendhad been the lead recruiter on Nico Collins.


UM is going hard after Oliver Martin, which leads me to believe they've given up on Collins.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:16 pm to
So here it is. Like I said, it's not pretty:



ETA: Rivals doesn't rank players past #250, but they do rank them by position and give them a grade and a star value.

ESPN is the same way.

Scout stops ranking them at #300, but they are still in ranked order all the way to the end. I stopped at Fletcher's.
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 12:21 pm
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:19 pm to
LINK ]No shortage of team rankings storylines as Signing Day nears
Rivals | Jan 19, 2017
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National Signing Day is less than two weeks away and there are a number of compelling storylines to follow as teams jockey for position in the Rivals.com Team Recruiting Rankings.

The race for No. 1

Alabama held a huge lead in the team rankings in early December when the rankings were updated last. Now Ohio State has closed the gap to just over 200 points, which is essentially one or two commitments.

Keeping in mind only the top 20 commits in each class count towards the team ranking, the Buckeyes would need to land a few more of their top targets to usurp the Tide. Five-star defensive tackle Marvin Wilson, Rivals100 defensive tackle Jay Tufele, Rivals250 wide receiver James Robinson and three-star Thayer Munford are still possibilities, but it would take a combination of these four to overtake Alabama.

Meanwhile, the Crimson Tide are in good position with a few more highly rated players. Rivals100 defensive lineman LaBryan Ray is considered an Alabama lean and Rivals100 wide receiver DeVonta Smith has a good chance of selecting Alabama on Signing Day. Five-star defensive tackle Aubrey Solomon is trying decide between Alabama and Michigan...
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 12:27 pm
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:24 pm to
I posted the rankings chart in the OP as well.

I'd never remember what page I put it on if I didn't.
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:24 pm to
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So here it is. Like I said, it's not pretty: 

Nice job! Thanks!
Posted by leftshark49
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:48 pm to
Are we doing anything about a kicker now?
Posted by Cobrasize
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:51 pm to
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:53 pm to
Hopefully this kid gets a shot:

Jake Lane Highlights
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:53 pm to
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Alabama head coach Nick Saban is expected to visit 2018 five-star offensive tackle Jackson Carman on Thursday, the Fairfield (Ohio) product tells BamaOnLine.
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 12:54 pm to
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BOL just put out a Recruiting War Room. Here's the summarized version: 

- As we've thought for a while, Jhavonte Dean isn't expected in the class. 

- Akial Byers will likely be a sign and place due to his grade situation.

Assuming the two above don't end up in this class, we have 23 (EEs & commits) so far.

What's the total we can take, 30?
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 2:53 pm
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 1:04 pm to
Lane use to wear a top knot, kinda put me on the fence now

I guess the Leto Joker cut is an improvement
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 2:06 pm to
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Jeremy Crabtree | ESPN

A point of clarification on NCAA Proposal 2016-16: Division I Council chair Jim Phillips confirmed when the proposal passes -- as it is expected to do in April vote -- sections of it such as the 10th assistant coach, the individuals associated with a prospect rule and satellite camp ban will be effectively immediately. Other parts of the proposal, such as the official visit calendar adjustment and mid-December signing period, would not start until the 2019 recruiting class.
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 3:21 pm
Posted by pmacattack
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 2:28 pm to
Hunter Brannon
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Blessed to receive an offer from FAU! @Lane_Kiffin doing big things in the #BOCA.
Kiffin is testing his new lures
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