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re: Class of 2017 Recruiting MEGATHREAD: Say Your Goodbyes Edition

Posted on 7/12/16 at 9:44 pm to
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
73343 posts
Posted on 7/12/16 at 9:44 pm to
Because elite QBs have been few and far between in the state of Alabama. Always nice to keep those home.
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
13040 posts
Posted on 7/12/16 at 10:01 pm to
Bama lost the last elite QB to come out of the state too.
Posted by Garfield
Kew Gardens
Member since Dec 2011
7812 posts
Posted on 7/12/16 at 10:04 pm to
Stanford is a great school and he has a lot of admirable ambitions beyond football but (maybe a complete homer) i find it hard to believe that commitment sticks if he is or becomes #1 on our QB board (Saban playfully continues to refuse to let me see the board).
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
16199 posts
Posted on 7/12/16 at 10:10 pm to
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Jack West committed to Stanford.


Cant blame him, Roll Tide Jack West.
Posted by jatebe
Queen of Links
Member since Oct 2008
18507 posts
Posted on 7/12/16 at 10:22 pm to
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Because elite QBs have been few and far between in the state of Alabama. Always nice to keep those home.
I agree and hate to lose him. 11 of Bama's national Championships were won by home-grown Alabama QBs, incuding the last 3.

2015 Jake Coker (Alabama)
2012 AJ McCarron (Alabama)
2011 AJ McCarron (Alabama)
2009 Greg McElroy (Texas)
1992 Jay Barker (Alabama)
1979 Steadman Shealy (Alabama)
1978 Jeff Rutledge (Alabama)
1973 Gary Rutledge (Alabama)
1965 Steve Sloan (Tennessee)
1964 Joe Namath (Penn)
1961 Pat Trammell (Alabama)
1941 didn't check
1934 Riley Smith (Alabama)
1930 Johnny Cain (Alabama)
1926 Red Barnes (Alabama)
1925 Pooley Hebert (Mississippi)
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 7/12/16 at 10:23 pm to
From an "insider" on BOL on West:

quote:

Had a TERRIBLE camp this summer. Very underwhelming. Wanted to commit to Bama. He was told to wait until next year. It is what it is

Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19989 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 2:01 am to
Exactly. We have how many 4 to 5 star QBs on our roster right now and were bringing in another 5 star.

Why the hell should we care? I wouldn't mind if we didn't go for one next year or if we did only going for Mayden's brother.

QB is not a need position and this is not Pokemans. We do not have to catch them all.
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 7:12 am to
I get the luster of a Stanford degree, but if West's goal is to run for a political office in Alabama, he'd be better off getting a Bachelor's from UA and then a Master's from Stanford or another prestigious school. He would be far more relatable to the populace here if he went to an in-state school.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
73343 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 7:40 am to
That schtick is getting old when a prospect chooses to go elsewhere. Especially when it's unexpected. Where was this breakdown of his talent prior to the news?
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83771 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 8:26 am to
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Where was this breakdown of his talent prior to the news?


I'm not trying to start a pissing match here, because I certainly wanted West, but he dropped like a rock in the latest Class of 2018 rankings by Scout. He was a Top 60 prospect before the last ranking and is now #208. Allan Walters, the legacy out of New Jersey, dropped like a stone as well. He's now #235.

Jalen Mayden, Jared's little brother, jumped up to #68 though.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83771 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 8:28 am to
And just like that, we have a 4-star 2018 QB from California coming to T-town this weekend:

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Four-star quarterback Cameron Rising out of Newbury Park (Calif.) tells BamaOnLine he plans to visit Tuscaloosa this coming weekend, a trip that wasn’t scheduled as of a week ago.

“It’s just amazing, you know?” Rising said of the offer. “Alabama, that’s big time right there. If you’re a football player, you pretty much always dream of having the opportunity to play at Alabama.”

One of the assistants on the Newbury Park coaching staff, Joe Smigiel, was a graduate assistant alongside UA offensive coordinator Lane Kiffin at Fresno State.


Cameron Rising Highlights

Rising is ranked #48 overall by Scout.

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As a sophomore, Rising passed for 3,213 yards and 40 touchdowns and rushed for 756 yards and another 11 scores.
This post was edited on 7/13/16 at 8:31 am
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 8:40 am to
Which is exactly why I don't sweat losing a blue chip instate player. This isn't 2004 where missing on a top instate player is a crushing blow. I'd love to land every 4+ star player instate, but if we miss on one we'll find one of equal or better talent elsewhere 9 out of 10 times.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83771 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 8:47 am to
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Which is exactly why I don't sweat losing a blue chip instate player. This isn't 2004 where missing on a top instate player is a crushing blow. I'd love to land every 4+ star player instate, but if we miss on one we'll find one of equal or better talent elsewhere 9 out of 10 times.


I wouldn't say I'm happy to lose the out of state kid, but if there was any school (other than UA) that I would want my own kids to attend on a football scholarship it would be Stanford.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83771 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 8:50 am to
Another BOL "insider" on West committing to Stanford:

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About a week ago I got some info on Jack that I wanted to post, but I didn't want to get the board up in arms. I've posted before that I live in Saraland, but don't know Jack personally. My wife's cousins are good friends with Jack (one of them went to prom with him recently). I was told last week that he was very high on Stanford due to him wanting to enter into politics. He went on a visit recently and met Condolezza Rice and it made a huge impact on him.


Best of luck to him.

ETA: What the frick Condolezza???? You're supposed to be a plant by the REC to control the CFP!! How could you let this happen???
This post was edited on 7/13/16 at 8:51 am
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
73343 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 8:54 am to
Oh, I'm sure Stanford arranged it. Isn't she teaching there?
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
16199 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 9:00 am to
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Condolezza???? You're supposed to be a plant by the REC


Double agent.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83771 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 9:17 am to
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Oh, I'm sure Stanford arranged it. Isn't she teaching there?


I don't know if she is teaching there, but I know she is on some speaking tour.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 9:49 am to
quote:

That schtick is getting old when a prospect chooses to go elsewhere. Especially when it's unexpected. Where was this breakdown of his talent prior to the news?


Exactly. Not mad at Chatta at all. My annoyance is directed at the "insider" on BOL he referenced. It's old. If the guy had said that before this news, no problem. Saying it afterward just sounds like a douche.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83771 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 9:52 am to
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My annoyance is directed at the "insider" on BOL he referenced. It's old. If the guy had said that before this news, no problem. Saying it afterward just sounds like a douche.


"Insiders."
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 7/13/16 at 10:01 am to
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Insiders

I mean, there are some people who get good info, for sure. But most just recycle info, read tea leaves and hope to be accurate, or flat out guess. Usually you can tell if you watch long enough when someone has good info and when they don't.

I get almost all recruiting info from here. I have a friend in Football Ops at Bama and he's only twice in 5 or 6 years ever told me ANYTHING about a recruit (told me Cyrus going to AU was a legit concern). That's it. I've gotten good info on coaches from him and from a couple of other coaches and an agent I know, but next to nothing about recruiting. They take that aspect of their job too seriously to be loose with comments, IMO.
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