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CFP: Opposing Coaches Scout Alabama and Ohio State

Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:12 pm
Posted by CaptainMorgan
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Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:12 pm
Fields vs Alabama D

Big 10 HC

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"He's had a couple of games where he's looked pretty human," one Big Ten head coach said. "He's going to have to be at the top of his game. He's going to have to be really sharp. They just need all of their weapons [to play well]."


SEC HC

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"I thought Indiana confused Fields and that Northwestern confused him," said the SEC coach, noting that Clemson defensive coordinator Brent Venables is one of the best in the business at messing with quarterbacks' minds.

"So I thought [Venables] would rattle Fields, and to his credit, he didn't let that happen. We'll see if Alabama can do that. But the key was the Ohio State run game. That helped settle Fields down and allowed him to take those shots down the field."


Big 10 Offensive Analyst

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"Fields goes from the Big Ten championship, where he looked just dazed and confused, and against Clemson, he looks like the best player in the country," a Big Ten offensive assistant said.


SEC HC

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"Alabama has issues with quarterbacks that can run," an SEC head coach said. "I think Ohio State can keep them off balance if Fields can run it some. If he can do that, they can play with Alabama. But you've got to be good on third down to have any chance against Alabama and control the tempo of the game a little bit. Fields gives you a chance to do that with his skill set."


SEC Offensive Analyst

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"it's going to be a hell of a football game. It could be the Alabama versus [Clemson quarterback] Deshaun Watson game [in 2017] all over again, and we saw what Watson did to some Alabama defenses that were better than this one."


Winning (or avoiding) a 'track meet'

SEC DC

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"Ohio State looks like the closest team that could do that," the coordinator said. "But if you do get into a track meet with Alabama, you're probably running for the silver medal, not the gold medal. Alabama has never been this explosive on offense before under Saban, but they can still pound you in the running game.

"They've got an elite running back [Najee Harris], an elite offensive line and an elite playcaller [offensive coordinator Steve Sarkisian]. That's dangerous."


Big 10 HC

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"Are they able to generate a pass rush?" the coach said. "You can go after [Ohio State cornerback Shaun Wade], but they're going to play three-deep, keep it inside and in front. I think they're going to force Alabama to earn it."

"But that front seven of Ohio State's is pretty damn good now. They dominated Clemson. Dominated," the coach said. "Those backers and the D-line, there's no superstar on the D-line except for maybe [tackle Haskell Garrett], but if they do what they did in the Sugar Bowl, that front eight that they rotate could be a problem. It will probably be the best D-line that Alabama has played."


SEC HC

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"But if you're going to do that, you've got to score on your drives, and even though you've got to hit some shots down the field, you've got to be able to meticulously move the ball on them, which I think you can on this defense if you're patient," the coach said. "They're a really good defensive football team. They're not a great defensive football team."

"Make it a tight game because they really haven't played one," the coach said. "When Florida kept scoring, Alabama had a little bit of panic on their face. They hadn't been hit like that."


Alabama's offensive line vs. Ohio State's defensive line

Big 10 HC

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"This may sound crazy, but you've got to make [Alabama] one-dimensional," the coach said. "You've got to win on first down. You've got to set them behind the chains, because Mac [Jones] can't run. So you've got to make that kid beat you."


SEC HC

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"The part of their team that nobody talks about enough and the best part of their team overall as a group is the offensive line," the coach said. "Najee Harris is a good player, but he's not [former Alabama running back] Derrick Henry. What he has is five professional offensive linemen in front of him. I think Mac Jones will probably be a first-round pick, but he's also not Joe Burrow. Again, Mac is a really good player who never turns it over. But if that offensive line were average, he would be average."


Big 10 Offensive Assistant

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"They don't have to pressure because they usually get pressure from their D-line a lot of the time," the assistant said. "They've got some pressures, but people are afraid to pressure Alabama because they're afraid to give up some big plays."


SEC HC

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"You just can't let Alabama get yards after the catch," the coach said. "Look at three of their touchdowns against Notre Dame. The quarterback takes the ball and throws it to a guy like it's 1980 again. But that's how good Alabama is at their skill positions, especially DeVonta Smith.

"It's not like Sark is running some kind of offense that nobody's ever seen before. He's just got the best players, so you better make them earn it and not get yards after the catch."


SEC HC

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"Smith is unreal, but the wide receiver group as a whole is not the same without Waddle," the coach said. "With him, and if he plays, look out."


The winning edge

SEC Offensive Assistant

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"Let [John] Metchie go for 100 yards," the assistant said. "His 100 yards are going to be dig routes where he gets tackled or crossing routes where he gets tackled. But DeVonta catching crossing routes? He ain't catching them. They're touchdowns. I would commit two people to DeVonta at all times.

"If Ohio State can't contain him, Alabama will win big."


SEC HC - Hey Lane

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"Ohio State can go fast, but nobody can go fast like Lane," the coach said. "And you can't put tempo in like that in one week. Ohio State messed with Clemson but was hiding their formations and waiting and waiting and then would run a play and gashed Clemson a couple of times when they weren't lined up. But to do it against Alabama, you've got to do it four times in a row like Lane did.

"That can be catastrophic, because if you do that and don't get a first down, you're going to be down 14-0 because Alabama is going to score."


Big 10 Offensive Assistant

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"Ohio State is going to score points," the assistant said. "They should be able to go toe to toe. It's going to be, 'Who turns the ball over, or which defense can make a stop?' I don't know who to pick in this game. It's not like there's a clear-cut pick."


SEC HC

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"That was a tough matchup for Alabama because it exposed their two true freshmen having to cover Florida's two best players [Kyle Pitts and Kadarius Toney]," the coach said. "Ohio State is more traditional. Now, Chris Olave is ... a great player. How good? I guess we'll find out because Olave plays outside, and that's where Bama's strength is with Patrick Surtain and Josh Jobe."


Big 10 HC

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"To me, the only way Alabama loses the game is if Mac Jones plays the worst game he has all season, sort of like Tua Tagovailoa two years ago against Clemson," the coach said.


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Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:17 pm to
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"So I thought [Venables] would rattle Fields, and to his credit, he didn't let that happen. We'll see if Alabama can do that. But the key was the Ohio State run game. That helped settle Fields down and allowed him to take those shots down the field."


Ohio State didn't allow Venables to steal their offensive signs. I imagine teams are going to emulate what they did moving forward. That stout Clemson defense may not be too stout in the near future.
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
25482 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:38 pm to
That first Tua INT in 2018 had stolen signs all over it
Posted by Dubosed
Gulf Breeze
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:39 pm to
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That first Tua INT in 2018 had stolen signs all over it


Well that's on Locks and Tua.
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
25482 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 2:41 pm to
100%. I wouldn’t be shocked if Saban talked to some Ohio State people this offseason about how they disguised their signals
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
Member since Oct 2018
5363 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:04 pm to
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It's not like Sark is running some kind of offense that nobody's ever seen before. He's just got the best players, so you better make them earn it and not get yards after the catch."


Here we go again with salty SEC coaches talking about Bama’s talent advantage, as if Saban, Sark & Co. don’t game plan, call a great game, develop players and generally coach players up. Mac Jones is in his 4th year. He didn’t walk into Tuscaloosa as a can’t miss star. Sark has done magic bringing him along from 3-star to a Heisman finalist and potential 1st round pick. This coach sounds like a Rant poster, “Saban gets all the best players, he should win it all every year.”
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:06 pm to
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"Make it a tight game because they really haven't played one," the coach said. "When Florida kept scoring, Alabama had a little bit of panic on their face. They hadn't been hit like that."


This is either completely fabricated or it came from someone that didn't watch the games. There was a hell of a lot more worry in Oxford than there was in Atlanta.
Posted by CaptainMorgan
Member since Oct 2007
1507 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:22 pm to
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This is either completely fabricated or it came from someone that didn't watch the games. There was a hell of a lot more worry in Oxford than there was in Atlanta.


Totally agree. I laugh sometimes when these comments are hidden behind a title rather than a name, because it’s easy to see Mullen saying something like this. “We had them on the ropes and they didn’t know what hit them.”

I don’t recall any panic during the 4th quarter of that game. Bama just kept doing what they needed to do to win. The Ole Miss game was a 4 hour heart attack.
Posted by Ethan89
Member since Dec 2020
906 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:27 pm to
Shoot UGA was beating us at the half
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16980 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:30 pm to
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Alabama has issues with quarterbacks that can run,"


Not this year at all, but let’s talk about 5 or 6 years ago.

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probably be the best D-line that Alabama has played."


Have to protect Mac

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When Florida kept scoring, Alabama had a little bit of panic


We didn’t panic

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because Mac [Jones] can't run


Completely false, he can and has run. He absolutely will if he sees a place to go. He is actually faster than given credit for.

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That was a tough matchup for Alabama because it exposed their two true freshmen having to cover Florida's two best players


Alabama wasn’t just covering those two awesome players but an empty set with 5 very good ball catchers.

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you're going to be down 14-0 because Alabama is going to score."


We need to jump on OSU, IMO this makes sense

Slot of bias in this stuff. Some people are talking out of their arse.



Posted by bamatide07
Member since Jan 2019
3294 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:31 pm to
Florida was a great team at the time we played them. They were at full strength on offense and had athletes on defense. They just weren't well coached on defense. Their offense was impossible to stop consistently but we did when it mattered and actually could have had a more comfortable win if we had been able to recover a couple of fumbles.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
13179 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:37 pm to
Seems most like OHIO or think we are equal in talent
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:38 pm to
I'll be honest, I don't really know what to expect tomorrow night.
Posted by bamatide07
Member since Jan 2019
3294 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:44 pm to
I read where Ohio has several starters out with COVID. A couple of their defensive line stars and their kickers. Interesting development for sure.
Posted by biclops
Member since Oct 2011
6149 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:51 pm to
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I read where Ohio has several starters out with COVID. A couple of their defensive line stars and their kickers. Interesting development for sure.


Link?
Posted by bamatide07
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:57 pm to
Posted by biclops
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/10/21 at 3:59 pm to
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LINK /


Thanks!
This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 4:00 pm
Posted by Sebastian
Member since Jun 2015
3756 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:15 pm to
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Alabama has issues with quarterbacks that can run
Something from 34-5 years ago seems to be what everyone remembers. Every team will have issues with a good passer who can also run well.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:17 pm to
Yea, the "issues with passers who can run" thing only applies to guys who can run AND pass with a high level of efficiency.

Basically, the same dudes who give everyone else on planet earth issues
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21671 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:18 pm to
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I'll be honest, I don't really know what to expect tomorrow night.




What I think will happen:

OSU will quickly realize they haven't played anyone like Bama. Bama scores at will, OSU scores about half as often, until Saban goes to his patented "take the air out of the ball"/let them catch up some in garbage time plan.

What might happen:

The opposite.
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