re: CFB needs Bama to win

You guys can wax poetic about “four best teams” all you want. But the truth is, this is a MUST WIN game.

I hope the team understands that. Many of you don’t seem to.

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You guys can wax poetic about “four best teams” all you want. But the truth is, this is a MUST WIN game.

I hope the team understands that. Many of you don’t seem to.

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To me, every game is a MUST WIN game, and I'm sure that's the way the team feels, as that's what Saban constantly drills into them.

It still doesn't change the fact that they are most likely still in the playoff even if they lose.

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With a loss to UGA, our 2 best wins are against a 9-3 LSU and 8-4 MSU. Not much to write home about.

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Bama has beaten 4 teams in the CFP top 25. Clemson has 2, ND 2, OU 2 and OSU 3. That 9-3 LSU team is in the top 10, higher than any Clemson or OU win.

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OSU's loss to Purdue will hurt them just as much this year as their loss to Iowa hurt last year.

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OSU lost to 6-6 Purdue by 29 and wasn't competitive in the second half. They're done. Their only chance of getting into the playoffs is if Oklahoma loses to Texas again, and the committee doesn't fancy 2-loss Georgia (which, they might).

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this is a MUST WIN game.

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Regarding getting into the playoffs, this Bama game is a must win for Bama only if you are an OSU or Oklahoma fan.

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"Kirk Herbstreit says that 11-2 Georgia will have a strong argument over 12-1 Oklahoma and 12-1 Ohio State if they go toe to toe with Alabama in a manner similar to last year’s championship game."

"He also said Alabama is likely playing for seeding unless they lay a total goose egg."

The fact is the Committee has NEVER excluded a one loss Champion for a non-conference winner.

They felt justified in leaving out Ohio State, a two loss champion, as record negated the conference championship factor.

I agree that Bama is more impressive than Ohio State. But Bama is expected to handle Georgia. Should Bama actually loose to Georgia, that perception will shift quickly, the SEC championship game will be seen as an elimination game, and the Conference champ with an equivalent record will be given the chance to challenge the team that Bama will have already lost to.

I’ll say again, to exclude two major conference one loss champs for a championship game loser would tear the sport apart. It will not happen.

I expect Bama to beat Georgia. But should we lose, I expect us to be out. This assumes Ohio State or Oklahoma win this weekend.

“Eye tests” and “bad losses” are means of justifying the exclusion of conference champs who have inferior records. Otherwise, the committee’s original primary mandate ... to respect conference championships... will prevail.

Now, the committee did set the precedence that it may determine which conference team is “the best team” and most worthy representative when it snubbed Penn State. But that is a different circumstance.

I diasgree completely, particularly the following parts:

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Should Bama actually loose to Georgia, that perception will shift quickly, the SEC championship game will be seen as an elimination game

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Firstly, it's 'lose', not 'loose'. Secondly, this is nonsense. Perception would not change quickly, barring a blowout loss by Bama. Bama enters the game with zero losses, while GA enters the game with a loss - a loss to a team that Bama embarrassed. Bama has also won every game by 20+ ponts, something that hasn't been done since Yale in 1888, 23 years after the civil war. How can you possibly think that Bama and GA enter the game on equal footing, thereby allowing the loser to be dismissed equally? It's just nonsense.

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I’ll say again, to exclude two major conference one loss champs for a championship game loser would tear the sport apart. It will not happen. 

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You're wrong this time you said it, too.

Some folks will be pissed off, sure. But it'll definitely happen. Conference championships are nothing more than one of the three tiebreakers committee members are instructed to use if 2 teams are equal in his/her mind based on whatever criteria they used to get to that roadblock of equality.

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Otherwise, the committee’s original primary mandate ... to respect conference championships... will prevail.

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This was never and has never been any mandate whatsoever in the committee selection process. You are rewriting history and are completely, irrevocably, and indefensibly wrong.

The committee members are - and have always been - tasked with determining 'the 4 best teams', and each member is free, within reason, to determine that as they see fit.

You have demonstrated that you have absolutely no grasp of how the selection process works. I have no problem with you believing different teams will/could be chosen, but the logic and 'facts' you've spewed here are incorrect to a shocking degree. You're wrong, and you're wrongness can't be saved by further hammering away with these wrong points. You're just more wrong every time you say it.

The Committee chairman said it a week ago. Bama and Clemson have separated themselves in the minds of the committed members. Therefore, it would take an incredibly negative data point to eliminate either team from being considered outside a list of the '4 best teams' in CFB, and it's likely not possible.

Herbstreit said it today, "Bama is likely playing for seeding."

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You have demonstrated that you have absolutely no grasp of how the selection process works.

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I hope and pray we don’t have to find out. Because the day a single loss conference champion of the pedigree of an Ohio State or Oklahoma are left at home in favor of a Conference Championship loser will be the day that pigs fly.

The committee has never done such a thing.

As far as Bama’s unprecedented dominance; it all gets filed under “might have beens” if we fail to dispatch Georgia.

Let’s get real. Which victory has established Bama as an all time great?

Auburn? Lol
LSU? Give me a break
Miss St. Come on
Texas A&M. Get real

If this Bama team is great, we will find out in the coming weeks. If we can’t beat Ga, then we just aren’t great.