re: Calling DeBoer's offensive guru credentials into question

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And that’s not coaching

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We didn't do a screen until the 4th qtr despite everyone seeing and knowing Ga was gonna blitz. We dont do role outs, when we need 3 yards or even 10 yards we're calling 15-20 yards routes.

Everything needs looked at, this loss just wasn't on the injuries. It was coaching, injuries, Ty being a horrible qb, etc.

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We didn't do a screen until the 4th qtr despite everyone seeing and knowing Ga was gonna blitz.

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We literally scored a TD on a WR screen to Germje Bernard.

Do you guys actually watch these games????

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We didn't do a screen until the 4th qtr despite everyone seeing and knowing Ga was gonna blitz.

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Ty was missing guys in the flats. Badly.

There was one play where we had a guy on a crosser with a safety sitting in a zone. If Ty throws it early or late it’s probably a 30 yard gain, so where does the ball get thrown? Right in front of the safety so it’s a 12 yard gain with a big hit. It wouldn’t have annoyed me as much if it hadn’t been the same thing he did against E IL on one of his picks so it’s not even a blitz thing, he’s just not seeing the field or executing at a reasonable level.

Don’t even get me started on the blitz pickups. That’s a QB responsibility in this offense he just isn’t doing. And even when we might have something he seems to think he’s on a 5 second clock when he needs to be 2 and out for a 4 yard slant with YAC behind the blitz guy.

But it’s definitely not just Ty. How many drops did we have on key plays? Those guys need to be picking Ty up and and outside of Horton none of them are reliable right now.

I just think we’ve hit a point of dysfunction where the OL can’t do anything functionally due to injuries and wasn’t great to begin with, the backs are objectively bad, the receivers aren’t making plays and Ty has crawled into his own head.

I don’t think any of that is coaching.

We’re just not very good which is why I’m not as angry or concerned as some people because I’m thankful for what we accomplished and I’m not trying to put some Saban era dynasty expectations on what we are with this roster at the moment.

I don’t think we have a single guy outside of Proctor who would start on offense for the 2019 team right now so we can either get Ty and some other guys healthy (not just on the field, but back to good) or make a change at QB to see what happens.

Otherwise we need to accept we’re gonna need breaks to get wins or even compete in the CFP.

I understand Ty is the issue, so is Grubbs and so is Deboer. Ty isn't injured but our injuries did hurt us.

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That's depressing.

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I just think we need to appreciate that despite that they’re fighting, won 10 games and made it to the playoffs rather than expecting them to be some peak Saban era team playing against Saban’s impossible “standard”.

It’s gonna take entire classes with portal guys to get out from whatever issues are going on at OL. I’m just not knowledgeable enough about that area of the game to know if it’s coaching or players but people like the film guru and Cubelic who are think we’re slow and soft up front so I’ll defer to them and say we have to fix it via recruiting/portal changes not coaching changes.

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Ty isn't injured

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So he wasn’t hooked up to a back machine on the sideline at Auburn?

Saw that with my own two eyes from about 30 yards away.

Is it all injury related? No.

But it’s objective fact that he’s hurt and playing through it.

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Bernard and Williams were trying really hard.

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He looked like he had his explosion back for sure.

His issue now is back to the drops which I think is a mental thing. He legit needs a sports psychiatrist IMO, but he looked like a damn elite hockey player skating circles around people when he did catch it.

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We can beat Oklahoma.

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Agree. We will be healthier and we know what the issues are, we just have to show we can address them.

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His issue now is back to the drops which I think is a mental thing. He legit needs a sports psychiatrist IMO, but he looked like a damn elite hockey player skating circles around people when he did catch it.

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I agree. But I was happy to see him getting in the air and really trying to get the hard yardage. I was surprised more than anything. One spark and it could flip his entire game against Oklahoma.

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quote:We can beat Oklahoma. Agree. We will be healthier and we know what the issues are, we just have to show we can address them.

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That’s right. Get healthy, take this time to prep and work on the basics. Gameplan doesn’t have to be immediate. One thing Saban always did in these periods before big games was work on nutrition, fundamental football skills, and proper rest. It seems silly but that will get the entire core of the team in a better place.

All the injuries to the team is exactly why the SEC needs to go back to 8 game SEC schedule....AND we need to schedule OOC games where the 2nd string can start and win. Its the best way to stay healthy and let the team have mental breaks without so much of a grind.

Big10 teams waltz into the playoffs fairly healthy and ready to compete.

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So he wasn’t hooked up to a back machine on the sideline at Auburn?

Saw that with my own two eyes from about 30 yards away.

Is it all injury related? No.

But it’s objective fact that he’s hurt and playing through it.

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If it's affecting his ability that severely then he doesn't need to be playing.

Here's the issue though: go back and watch the 2023 South Florida game. That is the exact same Ty we've been watching for weeks now. Hell, when we brought him in for a play against OU last year what did he do? He threw behind his target on what should have been a routine WR screen that an 8 year old could have accurately nailed.

This is who and what Ty is, injured or not.