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Posted on 1/8/24 at 5:21 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
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Is PennSt's o-line better than BAMA's? Maryland? OhioSt? East Carolina? Bowling Green? Because all those teams gave up fewer sacks than BAMA along with EVERY OTHER frickING TEAM Michigan played. Perhaps, and I know this is crazy, but at some point you have to blame the fricking qb, right? Because every team gave up fewer sacks than BAMA and none of them have better athletes on their o-line than ALAfrickINGBAMA. FFS.
shite, maybe? Our oline was historically bad this season. It just was. I know it sucks because we are big bad Bama, but we all saw it with our own eyes. It wasn't just busted protections, or bad communication, it was guys straight up getting their asses whipped on the reg. It happened vs freakin USF when Milroe didn't even play. Was that Milroe's fault too?
Add in Milroe's deficiencies and it was a recipe for disaster, which that is exactly what it was a lot of the time. No one is saying that Milroe should shoulder no blame, but you are acting as if the oline should be absolved of a big share of the responsibility, which is absurd.
This post was edited on 1/8/24 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 1/8/24 at 5:22 pm to Funky Tide 8
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love how much this board absolutely hated BoB and called him every name in the book, but He's right about this and shame on Milroe!!!
They hate Milroe way more than they hated BoB.
They've convinced themselves that Milroe is a terrible qb and cant read pressurs, while also saying Ty Simpson wasn't bad this year vs USF, the only reason he looked bad was because he was getting pressured.
They are trying to justify their preseason takes about how we wouldn't sniff the playoffs with Milroe at qb by now saying Milroe still sucks and is the reason we lost to Michigan, the 1 seed, in the playoffs, despite us taking them to OT and that we again wont sniff a NC next year with Milroe at qb.
Their anti Milroe bias has made them sound batshit crazy.
They havent been right on the QB situation all year and instead of admitting they were wrong they're doubling down on stupid.
This post was edited on 1/8/24 at 5:40 pm
Posted on 1/8/24 at 5:44 pm to Funky Tide 8
Yeah I don't see how you watch the "blocking" our OL performed this season, much less the constant bad snaps, and come away with the conclusion that they are being unfairly maligned because of the QB. If you took away the sacks that Milroe was more responsible for than the OL they still would have fricking sucked. "He'd have only been sacked 30 times in a single season instead of 48 if he could recognize a blitz!" isn't exactly a ringing endorsement of anyone.
The deficiencies with the offense were a group effort and trying to either put all the blame on 1 person/position group or even just assign X % of the blame to those people or position groups is pointless.
If we had a legit WR1 that Milroe could have thrown 50/50 balls to, would it have improved things? What about a guy like Cooper who could actually do something with a WR screen? If we hadn't wasted so many RB touches on Jase and Roydell when we had better runners like Miller and Haynes would the run game have been more consistent and explosive? If Rees was a better, more experienced coach and playcaller would that have made us better? I think the answer to all of this is clearly yes. Everyone agrees that Milroe needs to be a better QB and his inconsistencies were part of the problem on offense this season, but there are people here who are going to be massive douchebags for the next 8-12 months because not everyone agrees with them that he was/is 100% of the problem.
The deficiencies with the offense were a group effort and trying to either put all the blame on 1 person/position group or even just assign X % of the blame to those people or position groups is pointless.
If we had a legit WR1 that Milroe could have thrown 50/50 balls to, would it have improved things? What about a guy like Cooper who could actually do something with a WR screen? If we hadn't wasted so many RB touches on Jase and Roydell when we had better runners like Miller and Haynes would the run game have been more consistent and explosive? If Rees was a better, more experienced coach and playcaller would that have made us better? I think the answer to all of this is clearly yes. Everyone agrees that Milroe needs to be a better QB and his inconsistencies were part of the problem on offense this season, but there are people here who are going to be massive douchebags for the next 8-12 months because not everyone agrees with them that he was/is 100% of the problem.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 6:27 pm to Funky Tide 8
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It happened vs freakin USF when Milroe didn't even play. Was that Milroe's fault too?
Of course it isn't. The point is that teams don't respect our qb's ability to play fricking qb.
Any o-line is going to look horrible if the qb doesn't know what to do presnap or during the play.
This isn't about hate or anything else you clowns are afraid to say, like race. IDGAF who the qb is provided they play competently. If you think Bowling Green has a better o-line, but won't at least consider their qb might be better vs the pass rush than Milroe, then your just a jockstrap sniffer and your preferred scent is Milroe.
If you do think that BG's qb is better at passing vs the pass rush because BG has better coaches, then you're just retarded.
The amount of mental gymnastics some on here are willing to perform to dismiss Milroe's shitty performance is astonishing.
Here it is simplified. Does BAMA beat Michigan if the teams swap qbs and only qbs?
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 6:36 pm to Funky Tide 8
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I love how much this board absolutely hated BoB and called him every name in the book
Some did and they're the same deflecting all Milroe blame to Rees.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 6:46 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
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If you think Bowling Green has a better o-line, but won't at least consider their qb might be better vs the pass rush than Milroe, then your just a jockstrap sniffer and your preferred scent is Milroe.
If you do think that BG's qb is better at passing vs the pass rush because BG has better coaches, then you're just retarded.
I think that comparing the Michigan vs Bowling Green game in mid-September and the Bama vs Michigan game in the Rose Bowl is probably pretty irrelevant to whatever is being discussed.
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Of course it isn't. The point is that teams don't respect our qb's ability to play fricking qb.
I bet most of them respected him after they lost to him.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 6:51 pm to Funky Tide 8
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I think that comparing the Michigan vs Bowling Green game in mid-September and the Bama vs Michigan game in the Rose Bowl is probably pretty irrelevant to whatever is being discussed.
Every team Michigan played out performed BAMA in passing yards. Every. Single. One.
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I bet most of them respected him after they lost to him.
I bet they adjust next season and do what Michigan did with success.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 7:17 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
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But to suggest Milroe is better now than he was in week 2 is intellectually dishonest.
But the O-Line that finished 126th out of 130 units in sacks got super super duper better over the season right?!?!
Doesn’t matter what you did in Weeks 4 through 14, if you struggled against Michigan that’s who you are and who you’ll always be
This post was edited on 1/8/24 at 7:25 pm
Posted on 1/8/24 at 7:27 pm to Robot Santa
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Yeah I don't see how you watch the "blocking" our OL performed this season, much less the constant bad snaps, and come away with the conclusion that they are being unfairly maligned because of the QB. If you took away the sacks that Milroe was more responsible for than the OL they still would have fricking sucked. "He'd have only been sacked 30 times in a single season instead of 48 if he could recognize a blitz!" isn't exactly a ringing endorsement of anyone.
They claim that Milroe is the biggest source of the problem when we literally have a game where Milroe wasn’t in and the problem was at its worst (against a bad defense from the American no less)
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Posted on 1/8/24 at 7:28 pm to PowHound
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This OL has 4 dudes that are going to play on Sundays.
Is one of them the guy who, on the critical last play, was put on his arse in embarrassing fashion?
Posted on 1/8/24 at 7:32 pm to Robot Santa
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Yeah I don't see how you watch the "blocking" our OL performed this season, much less the constant bad snaps, and come away with the conclusion that they are being unfairly maligned because of the QB. If you took away the sacks that Milroe was more responsible for than the OL they still would have fricking sucked
Here's what I think:
The OL was bad.
Milroe was bad.
Seth was bad.
And it's pretty fricking stupid to spend all day arguing which was worse, because they were all fricking horrible. We've had national championship and playoff teams that not a single one of them would have ever played a meaningful snap if they'd been on those teams.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 7:47 pm to CrimsonFever
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They hate Milroe way more than they hated BoB
This is where fans like yourself have no credibility. If someone does not agree with you they all of sudden turn from having an opinion on a player to hating that player. Some of you need to grow because your opinion is just that and not the gospel.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 7:51 pm to TideWarrior
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This is where fans like yourself have no credibility. If someone does not agree with you they all of sudden turn from having an opinion on a player to hating that player. Some of you need to grow because your opinion is just that and not the gospel.
Don't waste your time. People saying that stuff are beyond all reason.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 7:52 pm to CrimsonFever
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They've convinced themselves that Milroe is a terrible qb
Just like you have convinced yourself he was a great QB with no issues.
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cant read pressurs
Maybe you should watch more games
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They are trying to justify their preseason takes
I do not recall any of these takes but please link if out there. The first time I ever question Milroe was in September.
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Their anti Milroe bias has made them sound batshit crazy.
It seems that is the case for the pro_Milroe side who will automatically refuse to accept any rebuttal from the other side.
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They havent been right on the QB situation all year and instead of admitting they were wrong they're doubling down on stupid.
Again someone does not agree with you and you have to label them. Look in the mirror you because calling others out.
By the way how I Iam wrong or many other posters who have only stated Milroe is not a great QB? I still have yet seen anyone answer what his strengths are.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 7:58 pm to Funky Tide 8
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I am assuming that he trusts that his left guard at least tries and blocks that guy?
I would hope so but the point is he still needs to be aware of what was going on, especially that was I believe the 3rd sack of the game and they had been bringing the blitz the whole first half. Any QB should have been preparing for it at that point with the amount of pressure they were bringing. But again he needs to be able to read pre snap what is going on and feel the pressure.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 8:35 pm to Glorious
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But the O-Line that finished 126th out of 130 units in sacks got super super duper better over the season right?!?!
I think the o-line had to deal with a lot of things they didn't have to deal with when BAMA had an actual qb.
Milroe's play made them look worse than they were.
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Doesn’t matter what you did in Weeks 4 through 14
What did he do?
Did he progress?
Why yes. Obviously. Because after the loss to tejas he beat Arky and Kentucky and lsu, and barn. There isn't a team from week 3 to week 12 that Milroe should've struggled. He didn't get better. He just didn't need to be better to beat those teams.
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if you struggled against Michigan that’s who you are and who you’ll always be
You're right. It wasn't Milroe playing his worst game in week 14, it's the o-line that caused all his problems and there's no reason to criticize the qb play. Because he's made progress. You just can't see it on the field.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 9:49 pm to PowHound
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As you guys who wont admit it will realize tomorrow night, Michigan has a great defense.
Going to be interesting because there is no debating Penix ability.
Penix is playing like total arse and Washington's defense is playing better than ours did.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 9:58 pm to Othello
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Washington's defense is playing better than ours did.
Not so sure about that
Posted on 1/8/24 at 9:58 pm to Funky Tide 8
Penix couldn't even get his team to 20 against Michigan but hey let's blame Milroe for everything!
Penix had zero bad snaps to deal with and overthrew his receivers all game long.
Penix had zero bad snaps to deal with and overthrew his receivers all game long.
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