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Posted on 9/10/20 at 1:29 pm to
Posted by JJ27
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Posted on 9/10/20 at 1:29 pm to
Typically you know within 5 days though. So why not retest them then and if negative let it roll?
Posted by Dubosed
Gulf Breeze
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/10/20 at 1:53 pm to
Evan Neal just said he weighed 385lbs when he arrived on campus last year. My goodness. Down to 355 now
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 9/10/20 at 2:01 pm to
Robot, not sure why you got those down votes, but you are correct. We couldnt have a football season, if they go to that extreme on contact tracing. I have never heard that kind of example explained.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/10/20 at 2:06 pm to
LINK ]Video, photos from Day 15 of Alabama's preseason practice (BamaOnLine)



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This post was edited on 9/10/20 at 2:20 pm
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46269 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 2:15 pm to
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We couldnt have a football season, if they go to that extreme on contact tracing. I have never heard that kind of example explained.


If there's some logic behind it I'd love to hear it. If they are concerned with false negatives then just have the dude tested again 24 hours later. If it's negative again let him play.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 2:27 pm to
I haven't seen any article(s) describing the quarantine rules that you've described. How about posting links to the article(s) you've read about them?
This post was edited on 9/10/20 at 2:31 pm
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46269 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 2:45 pm to
So the guy who loses his shite over people asking questions about stuff that is discussed in the first post of a 500 page thread suddenly wants someone else to use Google for him? Give me a break. It's a PDF you can find on the SEC's website. They revised it a few weeks ago.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 9/10/20 at 3:07 pm to
Thanks.

SEC MEDICAL GUIDANCE TASK FORCE
REQUIREMENTS FOR COVID-19 MANAGEMENT: FALL SPORTS
(PDF)
This post was edited on 9/10/20 at 3:17 pm
Posted by tider04
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2007
5606 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 3:15 pm to
The contract tracing is BS. If they test negative, they should be eligible to play, period. Hopefully Sankey lets common sense prevail rather than optics driven by the PC crowd.
Posted by tider04
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2007
5606 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 3:21 pm to
Also, the situation with Barmore is pretty simple. He's in his 3rd year at Alabama. He's a great DL, but what has kept him off the field from what I understand, is that he has not been reliable to do his assignment every play. He tries to be the hero too much, when sometimes he just needs to fill a gap. So for every big play he makes, he's in the wrong place for another play that gives up a big play. Either he matures out of this, learns the playbook and executes his dang job instead of trying to get on Sports Center, or he will be replaced with less talented guys who will do their job consistently. Really, at this point, 3rd year, no excuses for Barmore. Hopefully he takes the challenge, and frankly, glad to hear someone gave him an "arse chewing" for not doing his job. He's an upperclassman now, and needs to start acting and playing like it.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
17202 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 3:35 pm to
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Do the guidelines still not allow for a subsequent negative test to overcome the mandated 14 day quarantine for what they have defined as high risk exposures? Because if not then I really don't understand why y'all are so optimistic that this season will last very long. If they decide to only quarantine guys who actually test positive then I think you'll have teams without some starters here and there but it will otherwise be OK. If they're going to exclude kids who actually test negative because they were too close to a positive for too long though? shite, all it will take is one lineman testing positive to wipe out 20 players for a couple of weeks.


The definition that I mentioned earlier about "contact tracing" and being out of commission for 14 days was off a CBSSports site in regard to Tennessee having to sit 44 players from scrimmage.

"NCAA guidelines regarding COVID-19 say that players who test positive must sit for 10 days and have three days without symptoms before returning to action. Players who have been determined to have "high-risk" contact with players who test positive are required to sit for 14 days. "High-risk" contact is defined as being within 6 feet of somebody who tests positive for 15 or more minutes without face covering."
LINK


If this is so, it's ridiculous and I have no idea how anyone can play football with such a stupid, asinine rule. Contact tracing would be more punitive than actually testing positive. Could you just imagine an entire position group and everyone they practiced against having to sit for 14 days because one player tested positive?

That's just crazy. Why even attempt something that is going to be this ridiculously monitored?








Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
13143 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 3:38 pm to
He is not great. He has potential for that spot but he sure ain't great.
Posted by Sauron
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2015
1100 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 4:41 pm to
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what has kept him off the field from what I understand, is that he has not been reliable to do his assignment every play.


Bingo. What Saban (and almost any good coach) values above talent is consistently doing your job to the best of your ability. If a player can't be trusted to not screw up, he's not going to play ahead of a guy who can do the assignment ... even if that guy is a step slower or not as impressive on the hoof.

We keep having these discussions over and over, about such-and-such freshman not playing when a "less-talented" upperclassman does, but it's really simple: Saban wants to know each player on the field understands their role and will do their job on every play. Until a player proves that, he's not seeing the field (barring catastrophic injury luck or other depth issues).
Posted by Panthers4life
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2017
5126 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 5:29 pm to
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16163 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 7:01 pm to
quote:

Typically you know within 5 days though. So why not retest them then and if negative let it roll?


Fear, I guess. I can't think of an actual, logical reason.
Posted by Tw1st3d
Member since Jul 2017
968 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 10:03 pm to
Najee going HAM with his off season training

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This post was edited on 9/10/20 at 10:04 pm
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13191 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 11:04 pm to
quote:

"NCAA guidelines regarding COVID-19


I am not sure why we have to listen to anything the NCAA says. They have no control of who plays and who does not this fall. They do not have any say in postseason schedules. But yet somehow they always seem to find one little area to get involved that really adds no value to the sport

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If this is so, it's ridiculous and I have no idea how anyone can play football


That has been the problem all along. Even with the conferences playing this fall the issue was going to be the guidance we had to follow. They would have been better starting the season the week before Labor Day or Labor Day weekend and only playing 8 or 9 games and having a game every 2 weeks. This would have allowed 14 days between games to quarantine players if needed.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13191 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 11:06 pm to
quote:

Typically you know within 5 days though. So why not retest them then and if negative let it roll?


Here at UNC they are getting the results back within 12 hours and sometimes less. My son was not feeling well and running a fever and starting back his travel soccer practice. We took him to UNC around 10pm and was notified just after 8am the next morning he was negative. So I am sure any program, especially with the resources of these big time programs can get the same results.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49884 posts
Posted on 9/10/20 at 11:08 pm to
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I am not sure why we have to listen to anything the NCAA says.


It’s pretty clear the NCAA is obsolete and on the way out. We’ll probably see someone like Saban be the commissioner soon and have some kind of “board of trustees” or something
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
62105 posts
Posted on 9/11/20 at 12:26 am to
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Here at UNC they are getting the results back within 12 hours and sometimes less.


Sorry if I wasn’t clear. Typically we see people pop positive/show symptoms on Day 5. At least that’s what they’ve told us at the hospital. I took a test a couple weeks ago and came back negative. My nose bled terribly for a couple days. I swear she tried to shove that damn thing through my brain. It was legitimately bad enough that I didn’t wear my CPAP for a couple days due to fear she pierced something.
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