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Posted on 1/6/20 at 11:03 pm to YStar
Posted on 1/6/20 at 11:03 pm to YStar
According to Tim Watts, Bama made sure Ruggs was provided good draft-grade info and decision-making support, and he was discussing it with family late last week. I doubt Mack had a major influence on Ruggs' decision.
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Posted on 1/6/20 at 11:06 pm to TidalSurge1
Mack sunk the Titanic and then he went on to shoot Kennedy from the grassy knoll. That’s straight from my sauces 
Posted on 1/6/20 at 11:11 pm to TidalSurge1
Ruggs knows that his best chance to improve his draft grade, 2nd round from all accounts, isn't to come back but to light up the combine. I mean he could have definitely improved it with another season but he's a rare case where he can easily jump to a mid to late 1st rounder just by running the 40 at the combine.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 11:33 pm to RollTide33
We don't know how much time Mack spends in the film room. We do know our defensive coordinator (co-coordinator last year) who so happens to be the ILB coach sucks.
Also, let's be honest, it isn't about "football" anymore. I loved the sport then the league opened my eyes. I was depressed and even suicidal at one point.
For me it is weird when fans demand loyalty which isn't fully reciprocated.
Everyone else from the staff to the university to the NCAA, NFL, owners, etc are making business decisions. All the while everyone expects these young men not to.
It's a business at the end of the day and it's ironic any fan of ours would complain because Saban has built the program on recruits making "business decisions". All they are doing is what everyone else is doing.
Also, let's be honest, it isn't about "football" anymore. I loved the sport then the league opened my eyes. I was depressed and even suicidal at one point.
For me it is weird when fans demand loyalty which isn't fully reciprocated.
Everyone else from the staff to the university to the NCAA, NFL, owners, etc are making business decisions. All the while everyone expects these young men not to.
It's a business at the end of the day and it's ironic any fan of ours would complain because Saban has built the program on recruits making "business decisions". All they are doing is what everyone else is doing.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 11:40 pm to YStar
You may be right but if we're talking business decisions then Mack clearly made the wrong one considering he dropped all the way to the 5th round. I can't imagine another year would have had him going later than that.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 11:48 pm to YStar
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Also, let's be honest, it isn't about "football" anymore. I loved the sport then the league opened my eyes. I was depressed and even suicidal at one point.
I'm really sorry to hear that, but I have a question. Are you saying you played in the league?
Posted on 1/6/20 at 11:52 pm to RollTide33
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You may be right but if we're talking business decisions then Mack clearly made the wrong one considering he dropped all the way to the 5th round. I can't imagine another year would have had him going later than that.
No Mack made the right decision. Mack wasn't going to get drafted at all had he came back on Golding's defense. Face it. Golding isn't ready for this level of football and he needs to be replaced. If not, I believe Golding will shite the bed so bad it will cause us another loss.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 11:56 pm to Shaft Williams
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If not, I believe Golding will shite the bed so bad it will cause us another loss.
Maybe he'll get better?
Posted on 1/7/20 at 12:00 am to biclops
I hope so but after calling the defense for 1 1/2 seasons it doesn't look encouraging. If he comes back I think the Georgia game will be his defining moment. I can't imagine Saban keeps him after that if the defense looks bad
Posted on 1/7/20 at 5:41 am to TidalSurge1
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I doubt TexasTide21 or any of the other well-connected BOL posters would be interested in posting here. And, even if they tried to share any inside info here, they'd get the same inhospitable treatment Boz has gotten.
It appears to me that the posters that shared their information (like Boz) never acted in bad faith, nor intentionally posted incorrect or misleading information or otherwise engaged in malicious activities on this board. In the end the cup (of non-declaring players) wasn’t quite as full as we hoped it would be in the beginning. However, taking into account that this board is an informal internet forum where all kinds of information is shared by all kinds of people, each post comes with a sort of automatic disclaimer: take it for what it is worth. If you don’t that is on you as a reader on this board. There is no need or justification to turn this board into a mud-slinging contest. Unfortunately some people thrive on that kind of negativity. Therefore I don’t expect it to stop. But I hope that posters that do have interesting Alabama nuggets will continue to share them.
Edit: see reply below.
This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 8:19 am
Posted on 1/7/20 at 7:31 am to YStar
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Once Tua was gone there was no way Ruggs was going to gamble losing being a possible late first round option.
Are you suggesting Ruggs is only a first round pick because of Tua?
It seems to me a first round WR is first round WR regardless of the QB - Julio Jones comes to mind.
This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 7:36 am
Posted on 1/7/20 at 7:33 am to Shaft Williams
Earlier I posted my ideal-yet-sort-of-reasonable defense coaching staff for next season (with reasonable I mean that I did not include Bill Belichick):
DC/DB: Derrick Ansley (alternative: ?)
DL: Tosh Lupoi (alternative: Bo Davis)
OLB: Sal Sunseri
ILB: Glenn Schumann (alternative: Charles Kelly)
DB: Charles Kelly (alternative: Karl Scott)
IMO this would be ideal, among other things because all these guys have Bama roots, have worked with Saban and/or with Pruitt and know what an Alabama style defense is about.
Now I get that Schumann is already a position coach and co-DC at UGA so he may not want to make a lateral move. And I get that Lupoi is interviewing for D-line positions with NFL teams (and I too prefer that he stays in the pros rather than go to another college team than Bama).
What I am less convinced about is the DC job at Alabama being a lateral move from the DC job at Tennessee. In college football Alabama is America’s Team. The DC job for the Arizona Cardinals is not equal to the DC job for the NE Patriots (Cowboys are America's team, but I did not want to compare Dallas with Bama). So, I would be surprised if Ansley would NOT at least be interested in taking over the Bama DC job.
Ansley would stay for the short term, but that goes for all coordinators that join Alabama. That just comes with being the Golden Standard in College Football (which logic unfortunately doesn’t apply to the Clemson coaching staff, but that’s another story). Latest example of that is Dan Enos, who after a 1-year stint at Alabama, became a hot OC commodity only to be fired after 1 ho-hum year elsewhere.
But I am curious to hear whether someone has better ideas about how to improve our coaching staff.
DC/DB: Derrick Ansley (alternative: ?)
DL: Tosh Lupoi (alternative: Bo Davis)
OLB: Sal Sunseri
ILB: Glenn Schumann (alternative: Charles Kelly)
DB: Charles Kelly (alternative: Karl Scott)
IMO this would be ideal, among other things because all these guys have Bama roots, have worked with Saban and/or with Pruitt and know what an Alabama style defense is about.
Now I get that Schumann is already a position coach and co-DC at UGA so he may not want to make a lateral move. And I get that Lupoi is interviewing for D-line positions with NFL teams (and I too prefer that he stays in the pros rather than go to another college team than Bama).
What I am less convinced about is the DC job at Alabama being a lateral move from the DC job at Tennessee. In college football Alabama is America’s Team. The DC job for the Arizona Cardinals is not equal to the DC job for the NE Patriots (Cowboys are America's team, but I did not want to compare Dallas with Bama). So, I would be surprised if Ansley would NOT at least be interested in taking over the Bama DC job.
Ansley would stay for the short term, but that goes for all coordinators that join Alabama. That just comes with being the Golden Standard in College Football (which logic unfortunately doesn’t apply to the Clemson coaching staff, but that’s another story). Latest example of that is Dan Enos, who after a 1-year stint at Alabama, became a hot OC commodity only to be fired after 1 ho-hum year elsewhere.
But I am curious to hear whether someone has better ideas about how to improve our coaching staff.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 7:47 am to RollTideNL
Finkle openly admitted to trolling and not having info. He did it just to try to trap Boz.
Yes, there are those assholes on this board.
Nobody is ever going to have 100% accurate information on future decisions. Things change constantly. These kids have all kinds of people trying to influence them with various motives. And some of the kids are easily influenced.
Yes, there are those assholes on this board.
Nobody is ever going to have 100% accurate information on future decisions. Things change constantly. These kids have all kinds of people trying to influence them with various motives. And some of the kids are easily influenced.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 8:26 am to BamaReb
So here is my question on coaching changes. The season is over and ESD came and went. If Saban is going to make some changes on defense, what in the world is he waiting on? Seems to me this may be more wishful thinking from fans than actual insider info.
Personally I’d love to see Bo Davis return and I would not mind seeing Golding replaced by someone with some experience. But again, what’s the hold up?
Personally I’d love to see Bo Davis return and I would not mind seeing Golding replaced by someone with some experience. But again, what’s the hold up?
This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 8:29 am
Posted on 1/7/20 at 8:39 am to tider04
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Personally I’d love to see Bo Davis return and I would not mind seeing Golding replaced by someone with some experience. But again, what’s the hold up?
I have absolutely no inside knowledge whatsoever, but …
It may be that one or more coaches involved in potential changes were coaching until recently. Then we've had announcements of players returning / leaving over the last few days. I'm guessing Saban (and the University) want each person to have their time in the sun, so to speak, without overshadowing any of the people involved.
Plus … by keeping the news flow to a trickle, it maintains Alabama's brand in the media (and in the public eye) for a longer period of time. It's funny -- the week leading up to the national championship game, the biggest story in college football hasn't been Clemson / LSU, but rather who from Alabama was staying / leaving.
Oh, and by the way, it keeps the narrative of "29 first-round draft picks from Alabama since Saban arrived" going on, with more to be added soon. It's a powerful recruiting tool.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 8:43 am to tider04
I believe Nick is allowing those coaches that might be ask to look around to find a gig 1st. if not then Nick and Bama will owe them money for their contracts.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 8:55 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
That's a good point. Guess we will find out soon enough.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 9:09 am to tider04
According to Matt Zenitz Najee coming back is a legit possibility. I still lean towards him leaving but Him& Trey Sanders could possibly be the best duo we’ve had
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Sounds like Najee Harris hasn’t made a final decision yet regarding the draft. From what I’ve heard, the belief is that he hasn’t completely ruled out returning to school as of yet. Heard there’s been some communication with the Alabama staff over the last few days.
This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 9:10 am
Posted on 1/7/20 at 9:33 am to tider04
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Personally I’d love to see Bo Davis return and I would not mind seeing Golding replaced by someone with some experience. But again, what’s the hold up?
I don't pretend to know anything about Saban's way of thinking, but a quick check on Google reveals that:
- the last time Bama hired a coordinator (rather than promote from within) was Brian Daboll. He was hired in February 2017;
- Charles Huff was hired on 21st January 2019;
- Sal Sunseri was hired mid-January 2019;
- Brian Baker was hired at the end of January 2019.
Saban does these coaching hires in his own way. He didn't fire Lupoi as DC, but rather seemed to arrange for him to join Kitchens with the Browns. Kuligowski's termination was never even announced.
So, until further notice I keep on hoping, dreaming of a rebuilt defensive staff that can get Bama to play with the Attitude and Authority that we have grown accustomed to under Saban.
This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 9:34 am
Posted on 1/7/20 at 9:35 am to mistaken4193
From what I've read Najee really doesn't like the information he has gotten from the draft folks but he also is ready to be done with school and become a professional. Add to that his position and the limited career length and I'd still be shocked if he came back.
However, the one thing to consider.......this draft class is loaded with running backs.
- Chuba Hubbard
- JK Dobbins
- Jonathan Taylor
- Travis Ettiene
- D'Andre Swift
- AJ Dillon (BC)
- Zack Moss (Utah)
- Cam Akera (FSU)
- Kylin Hill (Miss St)
- CEH (LSU)
- Lamical Perine (Florida)
- Ke'Shawn Vaughn (Vandy)
- Eno Benjamin (ASU)
That's a TON of really good backs.
However, the one thing to consider.......this draft class is loaded with running backs.
- Chuba Hubbard
- JK Dobbins
- Jonathan Taylor
- Travis Ettiene
- D'Andre Swift
- AJ Dillon (BC)
- Zack Moss (Utah)
- Cam Akera (FSU)
- Kylin Hill (Miss St)
- CEH (LSU)
- Lamical Perine (Florida)
- Ke'Shawn Vaughn (Vandy)
- Eno Benjamin (ASU)
That's a TON of really good backs.
This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 9:38 am
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