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re: Austin Mack looked like a completely different QB in the pocket than Ty.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:10 pm to bamabonners
Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:10 pm to bamabonners
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This board needs to move above using milroe as an insult.
You...you know Joe Milton is an actual person right? Not some obscure reference to Milroe. He was QB a Tennessee a few years back.
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:12 pm to FightingOkra
Where is Carlton?
Posted on 1/2/26 at 7:12 pm to CrimsonBoz
This is no time for a jokester 
Posted on 1/2/26 at 8:44 pm to footstepsfalco
quote:This to me, stands out. I like AM and wish we could have rotated others in during the season... but Ty absolutely took a pounding back there.
He also has an entire season less of being crushed behind a shite offensive line.
He was hurt half the season, couldn't throw the same, got happy feet always, yet still took several hits in the chest as he released the ball.
I admire him but that never stopped me from wondering why he wasn't pulled... but I will always defer to the coaching staff.
(The situation was almost identical to LSU fans wanted their starter, Garrett Nussmeier, pulled for the same reason (couldn't stretch the field anymore) after getting hurt in game 3 (IIRC). I recall how grateful I was this hadn't happened to us, but it did -- just later in the season. Many of their fans even felt Kelly should have been fired for gross incompetence for not benching Nuss earlier... until MVB was put in... then 200 fans shut up.)
Posted on 1/2/26 at 10:56 pm to Diego Ricardo
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He had a few nice throws
Better than any throw I’ve seen Ty make since the Tennessee game
Posted on 1/2/26 at 11:04 pm to YStar
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Pray tell what happened the 2 quarters and first drive in the 3rd quarter before Ty took himself out the game?
67 yards and ZERO POINTS
But these guys want to critique his redzone reads. Damn I was just happy that we finally had a chance to score. Mack was clearly the better quarterback last night. The only other game the coaches allowed us to have a comparison was the Eastern Illinois game.
Here’s the comparison
Ty-11/16 147 yards 2 picks
Russell/Mack- 12/14 123 yards 0 picks
Last night Mack threw for nearly 40 more yards and got us on the scoreboard.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 11:11 pm to FoTownBam
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Better than any throw I’ve seen Ty make since the Tennessee game
Which begs the question…why? Why does a guy making NFL throw week after week all of the sudden suck? Happy feet, won’t stretch the field, won’t trust a pocket. To me, it’s clear. The dude took enough shots, or the right shots; where he wasn’t the same. Our answer as a fan base? Don’t blame the fact we end games with negative rushing yards, or we have a staff that trots an injured guy out there with no run game and expect him to be Superman. I stead, we cash a 22 year old kid with plenty of talent; far more than any of us have. I’m guilty too, but it’s a brutal perspective when you think about it.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 11:14 pm to FoTownBam
But Ty was hurt for half the season…then it’s gross incompetence that the coaches left him out there when he couldn’t perform and was hurting the team. Either DeBoer or Ty himself should have pulled him and let the backups play until he healed. He did us no favors by playing injured and was the main reason we lost the first Oklahoma game. He was completely ineffective in the SECCG curb stomping we took too. The smarter option was to start Mack against UGA and state that Simpson was injured but not seriously and they were resting him for the post season.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 11:18 pm to phil4bama
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But Ty was hurt for half the season…then it’s gross incompetence that the coaches left him out there when he couldn’t perform and was hurting the team.
Finally some common sense. I think half this board got alcohol poisoning last night watching that debacle and killed their brain cells. It’s unbelievable reading all of these Ty defenders.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 11:26 pm to footstepsfalco
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I stead, we cash a 22 year old kid with plenty of talent; far more than any of us have. I’m guilty too, but it’s a brutal perspective when you think about it.
I’m not mad at him and I don’t even blame him. This is the coaches fault. You just listed all of the areas he’s been struggling with and we watched game after game this second half of the season the same problems over and over. My question to you is, why would you leave the struggling/hurt quarterback in the game? The coaches weren’t doing him any favors by keeping him in. There’s clearly 2 capable candidates to replace him on the bench. Everyone keeps saying that the backups aren’t mentally ready to play, well why not? Did Ty look mentally ready to play last night? What about those 67 yards through the air in over 2 quarters of football couldn’t be replaced?
Also, no one on this board had any issues with trashing Milroe. Why is Ty above reproach?
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 11:28 pm
Posted on 1/2/26 at 11:45 pm to crimsoncoded94
Yeah, because Indiana dropped off and rushed 3. After a couple of plays they brought pressure and Mack was sacked twice, threw 2 balls to open air.
C’mon man
C’mon man
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 11:46 pm
Posted on 1/3/26 at 12:36 am to FoTownBam
You won’t hear me argue that he needed to be pulled, I will ask you what changes about the game? Hell let’s assume Mack gets game prep and starts…do you think Indiana heats him up and sends pressure? I’d bet everything I own they do. Now, assuming they do, can our o-line block them? We can assume, with an entire seasons body of work, they cannot. I’m not saying Mack isn’t a baller; I’m simply stating we have zero threat of a run game, we can’t block the Chattanooga school of blind and deaf, and our incompetent OC will continue to run routes 30 plus yards down field, while QB (insert whoever you want) runs for his life. Meanwhile Wilkin Formby is looking around at the air because he has zero clue who to block. In the off chance the line blocks and the receivers get open; there is about a 50-60% chance the ball hits them in the hands and they drop it. You can insert Ty, Mack, Keelon, that walk on who’s last name is borderline racist to say…it’s all going to be similar.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 2:26 am to crimsoncoded94
He handled it as well as he could after being thrown to the wolves. Good balance of power and accuracy on a few of his passes. I know most are determined it will be Russell next year, but Mack has a lot of advantages with his size as long as he doesn’t throw more of those low-release passes like the one that got batted down yesterday. Dude also needs to not get our WRs leveled. Brooks took a pretty nasty shot.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 2:31 am to FoTownBam
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Finally some common sense. I think half this board got alcohol poisoning last night watching that debacle and killed their brain cells. It’s unbelievable reading all of these Ty defenders.
Yeah, it’s not Ty as much as it is the coaching. If he’s been hurt or limited in ability, he should’ve been pulled a while ago. It’s just like last year when Deboer left Milroe in the Oklahoma game when he was throwing picks and prayer passes all game. You have to go with what might win the game over what apparently isn’t winning the game.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 8:02 am to YStar
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It's not about knowing the play calls it's about being prepared to read the defense and he obviously wasn't because they didn't prep him to do so.
He was missing throws to the flats by three yards.
He clearly has a massive arm which is why he was brought in but lacks consistent touch and accuracy.
He was better than Ty Simpson with a back injury and cracked ribs, but from a production standpoint it wasn’t enough to make a significant difference.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 8:14 am to crimsoncoded94
As to running the ball... 320+ across the front and you should be able to lean on defenses with marked success... comes down to coaching. Smaller, finesse linemen against fast, twitchy 300lb D-tackles will not bode well in this conference. You may be able to attack the edge easier with pullers, but then you have the sideline-to-sideline speed of the linebackers that the conference is known for. In short, KD's style isn't translating in the run game. Adapt or lose 3 to 4 games a year. Just an honest take.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 8:54 am to captainFid
He wasn't pulled because Austin Mack doesn't know how effectively run the offense and Russell, a true freshman, is nowhere near ready to do it. Trust me, if there would have been someone on the sidelines who could have run the offense and still given us a chance, they would have been in there. I've said it a million times and here's a million and one, Austin Mack has been in CKD's offense longer than ANY QB on the roster and STILL couldn't beat out Ty Simpson. That should speak volumes.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:08 am to crimsoncoded94
Mack did ok...but a guy coming in for the first time, yeah you are gonna see a lot of energy. I think Mack can be a good QB for Bama next year should Ty leave...but there is NO QB out there that can excel when his team has no threat of the run and an Oline that is poor at pass blocking.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:13 am to BbyB
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Smaller, finesse linemen against fast, twitchy 300lb D-tackles will not bode well in this conference.
Indiana sure did. Their guys are all right around 300-310. Bama's is 320...with outliers of Proctor at 360 and Brailsford at prob 285
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:15 am to footstepsfalco
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it’s all going to be similar.
Sorry for the delayed response. You make great points. But my point is why not try something different? We can assume everything is going to continue to suck, and it still sucked when Mack was in there. But it sucked less. We went from 67 yards in 2 1/2 quarters to 103 yards in 1 1/2 quarters, and we got 3 points. This came after Austin Mack entered the game without having any meaningful snaps this season and probably zero reps in practice with the first team. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is a sign of insanity. Albert Einstein the genius in fact did not say this, but he should’ve
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