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re: Alabama Class of 2014 Recruiting MEGATHREAD (Goodnight sweet Prince)

Posted on 11/22/13 at 9:17 pm to
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 9:17 pm to
quote:

So you'd be OK with Alabama having a team full of roided out felons ala 80s Miami as long as it resulted in championships?


Are the titles ever stripped from them?

Also, do we only have roided out felons because they make the team better? Like say we can choose between a great player who is a thug or a good player who shows up to class? It is whatever wins titles. As long as no one is killing or raping anyone, I don't care what it is they are doing.
Posted by My2Bits
2500 mi from Tuscaloosa due west
Member since Jun 2012
5689 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 9:25 pm to
Don't know where these conversations are going but the main issue here is Alabama does not need Pettway but Pettway may need Alabama. We can recruit another Pettway without blinking;therefore Saban must be reaching out to him for reasons other than talent. Saban does not bring back anybody to the team unless they meet his stringent conditions to the letter.Don't we already know this? Isn't Saban a known disciplinarian? Just don't get this hand wringing.
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
13501 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 9:30 pm to
I beg to differ. We cant just recruit another Pettway. We have had a problem getting pass rushers for the longest. Now we get one who has size and not only that he knows the system. Would be a instant player for us. Saban knows what happened and im sure if the kid was involved more than what was reported he wouldn't be on the team. If he was willing to overlook things I wish he would take E. Williams back because we are thin at safety.
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
13501 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 9:32 pm to
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Bring back a guy who committed a crime (Pettway) but lets keep Eddie Jackson so buried on the depth chart for skipping a test? great message Saban.



What was Pettways crime exactly.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
46319 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 9:41 pm to
quote:

Are the titles ever stripped from them?

Also, do we only have roided out felons because they make the team better? Like say we can choose between a great player who is a thug or a good player who shows up to class? It is whatever wins titles. As long as no one is killing or raping anyone, I don't care what it is they are doing.


Pathetic.
Posted by My2Bits
2500 mi from Tuscaloosa due west
Member since Jun 2012
5689 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 9:49 pm to
So I suppose you firmly believe Saban is all about winning at all cost? And that Saban wants to bring Pettway back so he can be our Clowney.
Sorry I don't buy that and I have way more faith in Saban than that.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 9:52 pm to
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Pathetic.




I don't think you understand.


If I was the coach, I wouldn't want that type of player.


As a fan, I want the best players. I love having good guys on the team. AJ and Mosley are great examples. When it comes to thugs, I don't want them unless Saban thinks they should be on the team. If he thinks they should be on the team, he has a good reason for it.

I've made my stance on thug players known before. We don't need them or want them, but if one was the difference in a title or no title? Fine, let him on the team. I don't have to like him, just have to like how he plays.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 9:52 pm to
quote:


So I suppose you firmly believe Saban is all about winning at all cost? And that Saban wants to bring Pettway back so he can be our Clowney.
Sorry I don't buy that and I have way more faith in Saban than that.



Same. Saban is a class act and won't allow stupidity to go on under his watch.
Posted by NBamaAlum
Soul Patrolville
Member since Jan 2009
27604 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:05 pm to
See ya later.

My stance on paying players, changing grades, and sweeping MIP's under the rug is well documented on here.


You get a scholly to my alma mater to play ball....respect it.

If you're okay with a collection of bad decisions that include slugging fellow students for their ACT card....we won't agree.


I make a living making bad decisions go away. That means no long term negative consequences like jail time...not the continued honor of playing for my school.
Posted by Garfield
Kew Gardens
Member since Dec 2011
7814 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:20 pm to
I am fine with Pettway coming back, under the following conditions:

(1) Makes personal apology to those students that were victims and they accept said apology;

(2) Apologizes to team and coaches; and

(3) Makes public apology to student base.

He has probably already hit #2 and I hope he has hit #1. If he does all three, I am fine with him being allowed back (and would respect him more than if he just ran off to another college and did not face his past).
Posted by Garfield
Kew Gardens
Member since Dec 2011
7814 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:23 pm to
Kalvaraz Bessent
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By Demetric Warren on 11/22/13 8:45PM

What the frick is this bull-shite?
Posted by Libertyabides71
Fyffe Alabama (Yeah the UFO place)
Member since Jul 2013
5082 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:25 pm to
Garfield like I said on the last page, there isn't a single documented case of the Auburn guys picking anyone anywhere but Auburn on the Crystal ball. Friggin sheep humping homers.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 10:30 pm to
quote:

So you'd be OK with Alabama having a team full of roided out felons ala 80s Miami as long as it resulted in championships?

I'm ok with roids, but not felons.
Posted by AMM AU9893
Auburn, AL
Member since Feb 2011
13789 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 11:02 pm to
quote:

there isn't a single documented case of the Auburn guys picking anyone anywhere but Auburn on the Crystal ball.
Warren is not an Auburn guy. If anything, he's a little biased towards Bama
Posted by Libertyabides71
Fyffe Alabama (Yeah the UFO place)
Member since Jul 2013
5082 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 11:06 pm to
quote:

Warren is not an Auburn guy. If anything, he's a little biased towards Bama



I said an Auburn guy like Matthews.
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 11:38 pm to
Demetric Warren changes his picks a lot.
This post was edited on 11/22/13 at 11:39 pm
Posted by Garfield
Kew Gardens
Member since Dec 2011
7814 posts
Posted on 11/22/13 at 11:38 pm to
quote:

If anything, he's a little biased towards Bama


You are either "a lot" biased towards Bama or you are a dirty barner.
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 11/23/13 at 12:08 am to
In terms of Pettway, everyone likes a redemption story. Nobody likes to give out the grace that it takes to make a redemption story happen. I hope that if he is let back on the team, he has very strict guidelines to follow. I just think that maybe he can get his life back on track. Twenty years old is much too young to write him off. We don't know the end to this story. Perhaps we will look back on this as one of Saban's biggest mistakes. Or maybe Pettway turns his life around, plays in the league for a few years, and then dedicates his life to helping at risk youth. Maybe the grace we show him today will make him a better man tomorrow.

I know it will look bad if it happens, and I'm prepared to take a leave from the SECr until the shitstorm blows over.
Posted by Libertyabides71
Fyffe Alabama (Yeah the UFO place)
Member since Jul 2013
5082 posts
Posted on 11/23/13 at 12:12 am to
Taking him back though after what he did, considering some of the trivial stuff we've ran guys off for in the past/guys we didn't offer but should have in the big picture/pure crap offers this staff has made at points

It just doesn't make any sense.
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 11/23/13 at 12:22 am to
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Matt Elam Is Okay Everybody !!!


Matt Elam referring to himself in the third person on his twitter.
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