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Posted on 7/26/20 at 12:03 am to phil4bama
This might not have been created in a lab, but it was mutated in a lab, and because of shitty protocols, was unleashed on the public.
Posted on 7/26/20 at 12:41 am to phil4bama
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Possible different types of COVID
Great information.
Posted on 7/26/20 at 10:38 am to stomp
Alabama again reported a bunch of negative tests as positives a couple of days ago. Turns out the state did NOT set a record for new cases in a single day on 7/22.
So, from a spread standpoint that's good news but it's beyond frustrating that four months in we still have trouble with a single yes/no question.
So, from a spread standpoint that's good news but it's beyond frustrating that four months in we still have trouble with a single yes/no question.
Posted on 7/26/20 at 11:31 am to JustGetItRight
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In Error, Tricare Tells 600K Beneficiaries They've Had COVID-19
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"Just wondering [if] anybody [got] an email from Tricare saying since you are a COVID survivor, please donate your plasma.?? I have NOT been tested," wrote a beneficiary on Facebook. "Just remember all those people inputting data are human and make mistakes."
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"In an attempt to educate beneficiaries who live close to convalescent plasma donation centers about collection opportunities, you received an email incorrectly suggesting you were a COVID-19 survivor. You have not been identified as a COVID-19 survivor and we apologize for the error and any confusion it may have caused," the company wrote.
quote:MIlitary.com
More than 600,000 Tricare users in the military health system's East Region received emails Friday asking them to consider donating blood for research as "survivors of COVID-19."
Posted on 7/26/20 at 1:38 pm to phil4bama
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Possible different types of COVID
There are definitely different strands. It happens in almost every new virus outbreak that spans multiple continents and enters into lots of human systems. This one has entered so many human systems in so many different ecologically diverse areas of the world and mixed and matched so often who knows how many variations of it there are.
The Spanish Flu went through roughly 4 large mutations in something like a 18-24 month period starting with the original strain in Kansas in spring 1918. It's why coronaviruses are almost impossible to create a true, long-term vaccine for. Antigenic drift and/or shift occur. It's why scientists update and change the flu vaccine every year, and why some flu seasons the vaccine has great success and others it has almost no success.
This post was edited on 7/26/20 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 7/26/20 at 2:14 pm to JustGetItRight
Our country’s testing is faulty at best. We have people not sick at all testing positive and the other day the Braves had 2 catchers with symptoms test negative
That’s why Total cases is the most BS stat of them all. Look at hospitalization and deaths
That’s why Total cases is the most BS stat of them all. Look at hospitalization and deaths
This post was edited on 7/26/20 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 7/26/20 at 2:42 pm to mistaken4193
Case numbers will always be much lower than actual infections simply due to the fact that only a portion of people infected get tested.
The primary goal of keeping infected people from going around spreading it, means it's certainly better to have false positives than false negatives. Also, mistaking positive tests for negative ones is the worst possible testing mistake but even that seems to be happening now.
That said, tested cases should still provide, by far, the best measure of where surges are happening and that is how most advanced nations are now tracking and containing surges fairly successfully.
The larger problem with our testing is that the labs are now so far behind in processing the tests that it's taking 8-12 days in many cases to get results, which renders the tests almost useless!!!!
That we are now 6+ months into this and are still -- as a country with a supposedly advanced health care system -- unable to test sufficiently to contain this is beyond pitiful.
The primary goal of keeping infected people from going around spreading it, means it's certainly better to have false positives than false negatives. Also, mistaking positive tests for negative ones is the worst possible testing mistake but even that seems to be happening now.
That said, tested cases should still provide, by far, the best measure of where surges are happening and that is how most advanced nations are now tracking and containing surges fairly successfully.
The larger problem with our testing is that the labs are now so far behind in processing the tests that it's taking 8-12 days in many cases to get results, which renders the tests almost useless!!!!
That we are now 6+ months into this and are still -- as a country with a supposedly advanced health care system -- unable to test sufficiently to contain this is beyond pitiful.
This post was edited on 7/26/20 at 5:54 pm
Posted on 7/26/20 at 3:48 pm to wm72
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The larger problem with our testing is that the labs are now so far behind in processing the tests that it's taking 8-12 days in many cases to get results, which renders the tests almost useless!!!!
Is this regional?
I know a lot of people that have been tested in the last couple of weeks and they're getting the results back in 3-5. The longest I've heard is 7 but she got tested on a weekend.
Posted on 7/26/20 at 4:09 pm to JustGetItRight
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Is this regional?
I know a lot of people that have been tested in the last couple of weeks and they're getting the results back in 3-5. The longest I've heard is 7 but she got tested on a weekend.
Here in NYC, it's jumped from 1-2 day waits to now 8-12 days for the main testing centers. It's continually increasing since the surge has been happening in the sunbelt. However, people say that hospitals still have almost immediate tests for patients and NY State operated labs have quicker turnarounds but those are not (yet) large enough for all the general testing.
From the articles I've read, quickly increasing wait times seems to be a problem all over the country with different delays depending on the company/lab with the specific testing contracts.
Since there's no national organization of testing, different states/cities and individual facilities have always had to track down their own private testing facilitators (though many states have been working to increase and/or create their own public ones due to these problems).
Very hard to get clear answers -- which seems to hold true even for the governors trying to get quicker testing based on their interviews.
The upshot seems to be that certain companies have made agreements with states/regions but are now overextended and continually increasing wait times.
Even a 7 day wait period for a result is not the way to control the spread and get the economy back on track.
We're going backwards in testing instead of getting better when we've had over 6 months to improve it and, in my opinion, testing is the key component to successful re-opening.
This post was edited on 7/26/20 at 11:13 pm
Posted on 7/26/20 at 8:25 pm to wm72
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The larger problem with our testing is that the labs are now so far behind in processing the tests that it's taking 8-12 days in many cases to get results, which renders the tests almost useless!!!!
I'd like to see some factual data on this. I know dozens of people who have been tested. To my knowledge, none has waited longer than 5 days for a result, and that was two months ago. The two most recent, both tested Thursday, waited 6 hours and 1 day, respectively.
Posted on 7/26/20 at 10:23 pm to Evolved Simian
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I'd like to see some factual data
There are literally hundreds of articles/reports from all around the country right now on the increasing testing delays, including the "factual data" of the actual corporations doing the testing addressing these delays on their company websites.
I've linked some articles with facts below but a google search will reveal a whole lot more.
Seems Quest Diagnostics is one of the major problems. Numerous states test through them since they are one of the largest private US providers with multiple labs. The NY Governor is saying that the publicly run NY State lab turnaround times are still 1-3 days but over 20K tests a day go though Quest and those are now taking 8-14 days. Quest, in their own statement, claims that they will have more capacity in 2021.
Quest's official statement on their website claims they are prioritizing some tests but that recent surges of cases mean other tests are taking them "over 7 days" (this statement is from 2 weeks ago).
The problem is that there really are no "low priority" patients since these are usually people thinking they may have been exposed but who will likely just go back to work or whatever unless they can get a reasonably quick positive test. "Low Priority" areas are ones that are now "under control" but testing and quick tracing is how they intend to remain there.
So, catching those positives as quickly as possible is anything but "low priority".
Anyway, here's the first few articles a simple google search reveals but there are current stories from about every news outlet in the country:
Maryland:
Maryland Governor Hogan said some labs were seeing a 10-day lag for results. “The tests that come back that late are almost not even valuable,” Hogan said.
In a July 13 statement, Quest Diagnostics, one of the largest private clinical laboratories in the United States, said wait times for low-priority patients will average around seven days or more due to “the rapid, continuing spread of COVID-19 infections” across the country, as well as the overwhelming demand for tests.
CVS Pharmacy, which administered Brody’s swab, estimates its result turnaround at six to 10 days on its coronavirus portal.
New York:
https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/news/2020/07/22/nyc-seeing-coronavirus-test-result-delays-of-as-long-as-14-days
Montana:
"As Long Waits for Results Render COVID Tests ‘Useless,’ States Seek Workarounds"
https://khn.org/news/states-search-for-ways-to-deal-with-covid-19-testing-backlogs/
Florida:
NPR: RON DESANTIS: If you have somebody go through one of the sites and then they get a result back 10 days later, that is not really going to be very helpful.
Wall Street Journal article regarding numerous states:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/growing-wait-times-for-covid-19-test-results-hinder-virus-response-11594891800
Maryland / Virginia / DC:
In D.C., Virginia and Maryland, some patients who have been told their tests would take a few days are waiting two weeks or longer to get results,
Our failure to test in February/March was responsible for so many communities being completely blindsided.
Now, over six months later, it seems that any semblance of contact tracing to slow the spread and speed up economic resurgence -- like the rest of the civilized world is doing -- is becoming a pipe dream.
This post was edited on 7/27/20 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 7/27/20 at 11:12 am to wm72
So how is it that Madison has such few deaths compared to cases? Is their population just much younger and healthier?
Posted on 7/28/20 at 2:13 am to 1BamaRTR
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Early treatment with hydroxychloroquine cut the death rate significantly in certain sick patients hospitalized with COVID-19 — and without heart-related side effects, according to a new study published by Henry Ford Health System.
The study, published Thursday in the International Journal of Infectious Diseases, is another curve in the continued research — and its sometimes conflicting results — into whether a drug that seemed promising at the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic really works. Early treatment with hydroxychloroquine cut the death rate significantly in certain sick patients hospitalized with COVID-19 — and without heart-related side effects, according to a new study published by Henry Ford Health System.
The study, published Thursday in the International Journal of Infectious Diseases, is another curve in the continued research — and its sometimes conflicting results — into whether a drug that seemed promising at the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic really works.
LINK
Posted on 7/28/20 at 2:14 am to 1BamaRTR
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So how is it that Madison has such few deaths compared to cases? Is their population just much younger and healthier?
This is a good question. I’d like to hear or see the link for the response
Posted on 7/28/20 at 8:58 am to Cobrasize
U.S.-based Nigerian doctor says hydroxychloroquine cures COVID-19
There was video of her speech posted to Facebook, but naturally, they took it down.
fricking ridiculous.
There was video of her speech posted to Facebook, but naturally, they took it down.
fricking ridiculous.
Posted on 7/28/20 at 9:05 am to TideSaint
And all the doctors spoke, not just her. They want you to think it was just her.
Posted on 7/28/20 at 9:10 am to Crimsonians
YouTube and Twitter took it down as well.
Hmmmm.
I guess our liberal social media czars don't want people to see it.
ETA: Perhaps our main stream media will swoop in to vilify the evil, rich white men who are trying to silence this brave woman of color.
Hmmmm.
I guess our liberal social media czars don't want people to see it.
ETA: Perhaps our main stream media will swoop in to vilify the evil, rich white men who are trying to silence this brave woman of color.
This post was edited on 7/28/20 at 9:31 am
Posted on 7/28/20 at 9:13 am to TideSaint
That US-based Nigerian doctor is a fricking nut.
Posted on 7/28/20 at 9:29 am to pvilleguru
A nut? 
Why?
Why?
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