re: Alabama Board Coronavirus Thread

How is Alabama doing right now with cv19, namely Birmingham? I kind of stopped paying attention.

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And I understand your point of view, but trust me you will be wearing that mask into November.

Why? The media and media doctors will tell you so.

Bookmark this post and get back to me in November.

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Early, early on, the news interviewed a young man that had the virus and not knowing it went to check on his aged parents instead of just calling them up. He was the only human contact they had. He later tested positive and lived to tell the tale. Unfortunately, he unwittingly gave it to both of his parents before his symptoms and they both died. He now lives with the knowledge that his good intentions killed his parents.

Not much you have said at this point would suggest your intentions are nearly that noble. Just listening to your continued obstinance, that you love to crow about, I would conclude that you have the altruistic nature of a farm animal.

"The shrew one sees what's coming and proceeds to get out of the way." Frankly, you and your lack of humanity smell a lot like roadkill.

Mississippi with 1,092 cases today

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We’re all going to catch it. It’s just a matter of time. It’s here and it’s not going anywhere

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SARS-CoV-2 detected in waste waters in Barcelona on March 12, 2019

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COVID-19 was announced in Wuhan (China) in early December in 2019 and it would reach every place worldwide later, including Europe. The first case in Europe was announced in France in late January 2020. This chronology on the evolution of the disease can change according to a study led by the University of Barcelona, in collaboration with Aigües de Barcelona.

Researchers detected the presence of the virus that caused the disease in samples of waste water in Barcelona, collected in March 12, 2019. These results, sent to a high impact journal and published in the archive medRxiv, suggest the infection was present before knowing about any case of COVID-19 in any part of the world.

This study, which counts on the participation of the researchers of theGroup on Enteric Virus of the UB Gemma Chavarria Miró, Eduard Anfruns Estrada and Susana Guix, led by Rosa Maria Pintó and Albert Bosch, is part of the project on sentinel surveillance of SARS-CoV-2. This initiative is coordinated by this research group, in collaboration with Aigües de Barcelona and funded by the REVEAL project, from the company SUEZ, in order to detect the virus in waste waters and adopt immediate measures considering future COVID-19 outbreaks.

An early detection tool

Although COVID-19 is a respiratory disease, researchers proved there are large quantities of the coronavirus genome in the excrements that reach waste waters. This situation made the waste water-based epidemiology a potential tool for an early detection of the circulation of the virus among population, especially considering the important presence of asymptomatic people, especially considering the important presence of asymptomatic and asymptomatic people who transmit the virus.

As part of the sentinel surveillance project, and after April 13, the researchers analysed weekly the obtained samples in two big water treatment plants in Barcelona. “The levels of the SARS-CoV-2 genome coincided with the evolution of COVID-19 cases in the population”, notes Albert Bosch, professor at the Faculty of Biology of the UB and coordinator of the study.

COVID-19 cases hidden by the flu

Later, researchers analysed frozen samples from previous months to the systematic sampling, which revealed the growing apparition of SARS-CoV-2 genome between early January and early March in 2020, bringing the chronology of the coronavirus arrival in Spain even earlier: the presence of the virus was detected in January 15, 41 days before the announcement of the first case of COVID-19, which was announced on February 25.

According to the researchers, these results show the validity of the surveillance of waste waters to anticipate cases, specially considering the significant contribution of the asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic carriers in the spreading of the virus. “Those infected with COVID-19 could have been diagnosed with flu in primary care by mistake, contributing to the community transmission before the public health took measures”, notes Albert Bosch, also president of the Spanish Society of Virology.

“In the specific case of Barcelona –the virologist continues–, having detected the SARS-CoV-2 spread a month before could have improved the response to the pandemic”.

Analysis of frozen samples from 2018 and 2019

These results encouraged the researchers to analyse some frozen samples between January 2018 and December 2019, with the shocking results of the presence of SARS-CoV-2 genome in March 2019, before any notification of COVID-19 cases in the world. “All samples were negatives regarding the SARS-CoV-2 genome presence except for March 12, 2019, in which the levels of SARS-CoV-2 were low but were positive, using two different targets”, says the researcher.

“Barcelona receives many visitors for both tourist and professional reasons, –continues Bosch–, and it is possible for a similar situation to have taken place in other parts of the world, and since most of the COVID-19 cases show a similar symptomatology to the flu, those cases could have been disguised as an undiagnosed flu”.

Models in the SARS-CoV-2 epidemiological surveillance

The Group on Enteric Viruses is also in charge of the scientific coordination of a project on the SARS-CoV-2 sentinel surveillance in waste waters in Spain, funded by the Spanish Ministry for Ecological Transition and Demographic Challenge. This task counts on the participation of two groups from CSIC, the Institute of Agrochemistry and Food Technology (IATA-CSIC) and the Centre of Edafology and Applied Biology of Segura (CEBAS), as well as a group from the University of Santiago de Compostela. Moreover, together with the research group Microbiology of Water related to the Health (MARS) of the UB, led by Anicet Blanch, coordinates the surveillance of the same virus in Spanish waters.

Last, this group also takes part in a monitoring project on the presence of SARS-CoV-2 in waste waters in the entrance of Catalan treatment plants, funded by the Catalan Water Agency and coordinated by the Catalan Institute for Water Research (ICRA). Another participant in this project is the Research Group on Virus, bacteria and protozoans of water interest in and food (VIRBAP) of the UB.

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Holy shite. If this is accurate...

The extent of exposure and infection (how many virus cells enter the body) affects how severe someone's illness becomes; i.e., with lighter exposure it's more likely to be minor and asymptomatic. It appears the spreading in 2019 was mostly minor asymptomatic cases. Also, it's quite possible the virus later mutated to a more dangerous form.

Don't eat out!

TO GO, PLEASE!

Mississippi governor just tweeted we are in danger of overloading hospitals like other states and He is looking at options with state health officer .... figure a scale back down coming on

Florida is showing exponential growth: we've gone from a daily high of 4,000 plus to 5,000 to 6,000 to yesterday: almost 9,000! Disney parks are still scheduled to open in July, Universal is already open. Look for that to be reversed any time. They are targeting bars first, but I have a hard time believing your local watering hole is responsible for this kind of explosive growth.

I don't disagree. And that's probably because you have a bunch of stationary people in close proximity to one another and no one besides the waitress and bartender has a mask on.