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re: Alabama Basketball Recruiting and Offseason Talk

Posted on 3/30/18 at 6:20 pm to
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 3/30/18 at 6:20 pm to
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Assuming Key is still on the roster next year, Avery might want to give him some of Mike's secret stuff so he'll believe he knows how to play basketball again. 


He's still waiting on Mike to win his talent back from the Monstars.
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 3/30/18 at 6:25 pm to
John Petty tweeted "He's coming Back" and then deleted it.


LINK
This post was edited on 3/30/18 at 6:30 pm
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37821 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 6:28 pm to
You going to tell us what it said? Deleted tweets don't show up bruh
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 3/30/18 at 6:29 pm to
I fixed it.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37821 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 6:33 pm to
Well might as well take out the link though. Links to nothing

I'll say this, if Austin Wiley gets a legit NBA lotto projection, he better sign an agent that day. I selfishly hope he returns to AU and has a great year, but it is the wrong move for him

Sexton is in the same spot exceot he actually is projected there
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 3/30/18 at 6:36 pm to
Only reason Sexton would come back is because next years draft class is weak and instead of going around #10 this year he could go top 5 next year. Millions of dollars difference I assume...but you also risk injury
Posted by Crede15
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 3/30/18 at 7:32 pm to
I think Key is an inconsistent defender more than a bad defender. I also wonder if I’m the only one who thinks he’s at best 6’6.

He’s pretty good at getting to the basket. He’d be a lot better at if if he wasn’t a terrible shooter.
Posted by A-TOWNUAFAN
Alabama
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 3/30/18 at 7:45 pm to
He would be a lot better if he could finish at the basket
Posted by jimzx
TN
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 3/30/18 at 7:53 pm to
How about when we tried inbound versus Bamba!! It seemed like that was five or six turnovers in that game alone!!!
Posted by A-TOWNUAFAN
Alabama
Member since May 2013
5087 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 7:57 pm to
There is no movement on our inbounds. Looks like we place our bets on the height of the team and post up each player
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/30/18 at 7:59 pm to
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Millions of dollars difference I assume


Just in terms of first contract value, he'd be losing millions assuming his ending career age doesn't change

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next years draft class is weak and instead of going around #10 this year he could go top 5 next year.


If NBA changes the draft rules again to add more entrants, this could backfire

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but you also risk injury


This and just sophomore "slump" risk / losing the hype

What I mean by "slump"/hype is that Sexton has to stay ahead of the of the projected development curve he has in this year's draft. Even if he has a great year for a CBB player, it can hurt him if it doesn't meet the likely absurd expectations




This post was edited on 3/30/18 at 8:02 pm
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9045 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 8:02 pm to
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I think Key is an inconsistent defender more than a bad defender.



Exactly. There's times he's moving his feet and keeping quick 6' point guards in front of him . . . --

People talking about him just not being quick footed enough to be effective switching onto guards must not recall the one SEC broadcast --pretty sure it was against Waters from LSU -- where they replayed multiple attempts by Waters to drive him with announcers beating the horse to death saying it was Alabama's strength to have a 4 that could switch onto a player like Waters.



He's also a pretty damn good help defender in blocking shots, creating turnovers, taking charges. . . All related to quickness for his size on defense.



Just like you said:

Key's main issue seems to be much more concentration lapses than physical/skills -- "spacing out" on defense, throwing the ball to no one. . .

The only more physical/ability issues (since I think his not shooting at least 33% from 3 is more mental than poor mechanics) with Key are mainly:

1) he's not particularly strong on the blocks -- fighting for boards or defending a truer post player

2) he's not strong taking care of the ball driving through traffic ... has great first step to get to basket but often gets frustrated/reluctant because he gets so many balls stolen in the lane



I understand the frustration since it's fair to say a lot more was expected of Key this year.

However, fans really tend to forget how much players can improve in their junior/senior seasons. ...
Even Alabama fans after watching Randolf, Obasohan, Hall etc etc the past few years.
Posted by GenesChin
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/30/18 at 8:09 pm to
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Key's main issue seems to be much more concentration lapses than physical/skills -- "spacing out" on defense, throwing the ball to no one. . .


I've always thought Key had slow reaction times, more than slow feet

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1) he's not particularly strong on the blocks -- fighting for boards or defending a truer post player


I've always thought it was a lack of "comfort" / desire. Some guys just aren't natural banging in the post. Key looks forced by responsibility and not his innate game

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2) he's not strong taking care of the ball driving through traffic


This happens a lot by younger players and improves with experience. While people don't like to admit it, sophomores are still "young" and Key only played 50% of his SO year

Posted by Gongora
Member since Feb 2015
625 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 9:06 pm to
I agree with a lot of what you’re saying. He has mental lapses and it’s frustrating to see a player with so much potential barely scratch the surface of it. Ultimately it is the player’s responsibility but he was playing out of position at the 4. With our lack of movement I can understand how he loses concentration especially when last year he was the focal point of the offense.

Not saying anything about who’s right and who’s wrong but I’ve always attributed Braxton’s defense to being a cerebral player who pays attention to the scouting report. Had a coaching buddy tell me what kept Braxton from being a 5 star coming out of high school was his mediocre athleticism. Coaches were worried that he might have plateaued physically as a Jr. in high school.
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
6040 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 9:28 pm to
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John Petty tweeted "He's coming Back" and then deleted it.


How come nobody anywhere is talking about this? Seems like that if this happened everyone would be all over it. We sure it wasn't a fake account?
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9045 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 9:48 pm to
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Not saying anything about who’s right and who’s wrong but I’ve always attributed Braxton’s defense to being a cerebral player who pays attention to the scouting report. Had a coaching buddy tell me what kept Braxton from being a 5 star coming out of high school was his mediocre athleticism. Coaches were worried that he might have plateaued physically as a Jr. in high school.




Thanks for the good post.

Yeah, Key certainly doesn't have "explosive" athleticism and you're likely spot on about much of his "game quickness" is due to being a pretty smart player.

My late father was a HS coach and I must have heard him say "quickness is your mind" ten thousand times.


Key being a cerebral player is probably a big reason I seem a bit higher than some here on how much he could improve if he gets a bit more comfortable and doesn't "over think".


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I've always thought Key had slow reaction times, more than slow feet


That may be a pretty fair assessment. Guess I'm just hoping he stays and another year of experience brings more of the effective, match-up problem Key and less throwing passes to the cheerleaders Key.


This post was edited on 3/30/18 at 9:55 pm
Posted by CrimsonTider98
Member since Nov 2017
810 posts
Posted on 3/30/18 at 9:48 pm to
Yea, I'm guessing that guy got burned by a fake account. Happens.
Posted by Bamafan15
Member since Jan 2016
6820 posts
Posted on 3/31/18 at 12:30 am to
It was 110% a fake tweet. There were a few of those going around today and I know who made them
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
13785 posts
Posted on 3/31/18 at 12:35 am to
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Not that Key is very good at that either, but he's better than those two. Reese and Galin were embarrassingly bad defensive rebounders last season as well.
Reese was the second best rebounder on the team by TRB%

Key was just a sophomore and is probably the most versatile defender on the team so wanting him to transfer is silly but I think Reese probably ends up the better offensive player
Posted by Bamafan15
Member since Jan 2016
6820 posts
Posted on 3/31/18 at 12:47 am to
@BamaRoundball

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Syracuse transfer Matthew Moyer lists Alabama among the 8 schools he is considering. The 6'8" forward started 20 games this year, & will have 2 years of eligibility remaining after sitting out next season. Academics will heavily factor into his decision.
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