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re: Alabama Basketball Megathread | 26-7 (16-2)

Posted on 1/18/21 at 11:50 am to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 11:50 am to
Alabama enters the AP Poll at #18

Duke falls out of the AP Poll for the first time since 2016







Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 11:54 am to
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:37 pm to
We are 16 in the coaches poll.
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:46 pm to
Anyone have an idea about the last time we were ranked this highly after December

Don’t think it was either of Grant’s or Johnson’s tournament teams
This post was edited on 1/18/21 at 12:47 pm
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:48 pm to
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Alabama’s No. 18 ranking in the AP poll and No. 16 ranking in the coaches poll are approaching the highest of Nate Oats’ career. He got Buffalo as high as No. 14 in both polls in 2018-19.
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:49 pm to
LSU -2 for tomorrow.
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:50 pm to
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This is the first AP College Basketball poll in which Kentucky, Duke and North Carolina have all been unranked in the Top 25 since 1961
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:54 pm to
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Anyone have an idea about the last time we were ranked this highly after December

Don’t think it was either of Grant’s or Johnson’s tournament teams


Per Wikipedia, the latest we were ranked each year

2004-05 : #21 (3/15/04) (Last AP Poll)
2005-06 : #22 (12/6/05)
2006-07 : #24 (2/19/07)
2007-08 : N/A
2008-09 : N/A
2009-10 : N/A
2010-11 : N/A
2011-12 : #23 (12/17/11)
2012-13 : N/A
2013-14 : N/A
2014-15 : N/A
2015-16 : N/A
2016-17 : N/A
2017-18 : #24 (12/3/17)
2018-19 : N/A
2019-20 : N/A
2020-21 : #18 (1/18/21)


So this is the latest we've been ranked since 2007 when I was a senior in college
This post was edited on 1/18/21 at 12:55 pm
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:55 pm to
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Anyone have an idea about the last time we were ranked this highly after December


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First time Alabama’s been ranked during SEC play since Feb. 20, 2007.
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:56 pm to
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Alabama is now a top 20 team in the AP Poll, KenPom, Bart Torvik, and the NET.
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:58 pm to
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“The Tide’s offensive numbers could be ripped straight out of an analytics textbook.” - @SethDavisHoops
Posted by Bryant91092
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:14 pm to
He had an article today about Alabama but alas I’m poor and don’t pay for a subscription.
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:34 pm to
I don't either, because I have so many other subscriptions to things.

Everything requires a damn subscription these days.
Posted by reachup
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:35 pm to
Fever, Ellis has earned time for his defense. Having said that, Ellis gets a lot of fouls that he doesn't commit. It's evident in his on court frustration with officials. Apparently, he and Rojas are our designated foulers. They are laying off Herb now. All bets are off on this next road game regarding fouls for any of our guys. Note: I'm big on conspiracy theories.
Posted by Chadaristic
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by Bryant91092
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 2:43 pm to
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. @AlabamaMBB head coach Nate Oats: "Home court advantage is less than it used to be. LSU didn't have a very raucous crowd there with us last year. My guess would be home court advantage is the same for them this year as any other year."


Oats has no filter at least he’s talking shite after us playing well and not beforehand like earlier this year.
Posted by DLev45
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 2:44 pm to
What I find interest about Ellis and Rojas is their opposite nature, and that each of them should learn a bit from each other. Both were JUCO All-Americans and significant scorers, so they do each have some skills.

Rojas's per-game JUCO averages:
FG: 6.07/12.03 (50.4%)
3pt: 0.97/2.52 (38.4%)
FT%: 79.5%
Pts: 19 pts
Assists: 2.21
Turnovers: 2.55
Rebounds: 6.8
Steals: 1.52
Blocks: 0.72

Ellis's per-game JUCO averages:
FG: 6.26/11.68 (53.6%)
3pt: 1.84/4.58 (40.1%)
FT: 80.7%
Pts: 18.1
Assists: 2.19
Turnovers: 2.26
Rebounds: 4.3
Steals: 2.06
Blocks: 1.16

So both were taking ~12 shots per game and scoring 18-19 ppg at the previous level.

The 2 this year:

Rojas per-game:

Minutes: 14.7
FG: 1.3/3.8 (34%)
3pt: 0.3/1.2 (25%)
Pts: 3.9 ppg
FT: 59.1%
Assists: 0.5
Turnovers: 1.4
Rebounds: 3.8
Steals: 0.6
Blocks: 0.1

Ellis per-game:

Minutes: 14.7
FG: 1.3/2.8 (47.2%)
3pt: 0.5/1.5 (36.8%)
FT: 80%
Pts: 4.1 ppg
Assists: 0.9
Turnovers: 0.8
Rebounds: 2.5
Steals: 0.8
Blocks: 0.2

I believe that Rojas is trying TOO hard on the offensive end instead of letting good opportunities come to him. He isn't scoring like he was in JUCO and he is getting frustrated and trying to make too much happen instead of deferring more to the other guards/wings.

Something is also off with Rojas's shot at the moment that he hasn't snapped out of. You could attribute the lesser FG/3pt%'s to the fact that he is playing at a higher level, but he has also gone from a 79.5% FT shooter at JUCO to a 59.1% at Bama, and the FT line is still unguarded and the same distance last time I checked. It's obvious he is frustrated with his offensive output.

On the flip side, Ellis could be a little TOO passive and deferential in offensive sets and could stand to be more aggressive. The guy is a career 39.75% 3pt shooter, but I feel like he turns down at least 1-2 open, in-rhythm 3's per game to defer to our other guards/wings.
This post was edited on 1/18/21 at 2:52 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 2:49 pm to
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Oats has no filter at least he’s talking shite after us playing well and not beforehand like earlier this year.



Posted by mistaken4193
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 2:52 pm to
I know we are playing with House Money tommorow but I think we win. They don’t want to play defense like us
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 1/18/21 at 2:52 pm to
Damn, Nate.
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