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re: Alabama Baseball 41-18 (16-14) 2024-25

Posted on 6/1/25 at 1:10 am to
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 6/1/25 at 1:10 am to
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He’s not hard to pitch to because he’s guessing. As the announcer said they were pitching him backwards. Hitting can drive you crazy if you let it. But it can also be pretty simple…..see ball, hit ball. Snell would be a good example of that.


To a certain degree maybe. By the time SEC ball had rolled around everyone figured out how to pitch to him to get him behind in count. I probably saw him hit at least 50 lasers....into the 3rd base side stands.
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
17802 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 8:37 am to
Our best player at 3 k's yesterday. The last one had men in scoring position. Some of the k's were on balls down in the dirt. Just move runners over dude.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
14904 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 2:48 pm to
Posted by bamacj1999
Member since Jun 2024
103 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 3:14 pm to
How’s it possible we had a guy throwing that hard that never got to pitch?

I’m telling you this is a Jason Jackson problem. Fix pitching coach ASAP
Posted by Kashmir
Member since Dec 2014
10020 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 3:24 pm to
Kid didn’t throw at all????
Posted by bamacj1999
Member since Jun 2024
103 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 3:28 pm to
I don’t see an appearance for him
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16665 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 4:18 pm to
Kid had a reputation for wildness as a prep player. Maybe we never got it dialed in. Gotta fix something though because kids from the state with big arms should be contributing.
Posted by bamacj1999
Member since Jun 2024
103 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 4:23 pm to
I guess that’s why I think it’s a Jackson problem. If we have big arms they’ve got to be coached up.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16665 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 4:24 pm to
I agree. Like I mentioned earlier, we aren’t going to be able to pay the big arms that already know how to pitch. We’ve got to develop them.
Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
15663 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 5:51 pm to
Vandy loses. What a great opportunity we pissed away this weekend.
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
17802 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 5:57 pm to
I trust the coaches if he did not play this year. Wildness is not really something you can coach up. Just like a QB who is known to be wild. Speed is not a good thing if you are all over the place. There are 35 players on a team and I assume they had to identify the starting pitchers and the next 7-8 to invest in. Good luck to anyone who saw little action who plans to portal out
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10839 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 6:00 pm to
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I trust the coaches if he did not play this year. Wildness is not really something you can coach up. Just like a QB who is known to be wild. Speed is not a good thing if you are all over the place. There are 35 players on a team and I assume they had to identify the starting pitchers and the next 7-8 to invest in. Good luck to anyone who saw little action who plans to portal out


Some of these guys are just way too obsessed with velocity, they push their bodies to extreme to get the extra mph and it just means less accuracy and more injuries
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10839 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 6:04 pm to
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I agree. Like I mentioned earlier, we aren’t going to be able to pay the big arms that already know how to pitch. We’ve got to develop them.


I dont think we should go for the big arms. Instead of paying one guy a lot, get a bunch of Ozmers that can just keep us in games and let the bats work. We get these guys like Quick that have to be babied with their pitch counts because they are pro prospects and are injury prone. Weve gone WAYYY overboard with limiting pitch counts. Quick should have started against UT in the SEC tournament but instead we gave him too much time between starts and he didnt have it.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
14904 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 6:07 pm to
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Some of these guys are just way too obsessed with velocity, they push their bodies to extreme to get the extra mph and it just means less accuracy and more injuries


Mentioned this a few weeks ago. Mechanics have gone out the window . You don’t see Greg Maddux deliveries anymore
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16665 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 7:30 pm to
It’s a trickle down from the pros. They want velocity and are training for it at that level. High school and college guys want to be pros so they train for velocity too.
Posted by RollTide33
Member since Sep 2019
4443 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 9:31 pm to
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You don’t see Greg Maddux deliveries anymore


Maddux was a unicorn. Pitchers whose fastball sit upper 80s to low 90s succeeding in college let alone the pros are an aberration. They need god level command like Maddux to have a chance. And guys with command like that come along once or twice a generation.
Posted by Kashmir
Member since Dec 2014
10020 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 9:58 pm to
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It’s a trickle down from the pros. They want velocity and are training for it at that level. High school and college guys want to be pros so they train for velocity too.


they oughta be training for mental toughness and pitch location
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
8581 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 10:00 pm to
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Maddux was a unicorn. Pitchers whose fastball sit upper 80s to low 90s succeeding in college let alone the pros are an aberration. They need god level command like Maddux to have a chance. And guys with command like that come along once or twice a generation.


I’m obviously a Maddux fan if you couldn’t tell from my username (and Glavin), but those type of pitchers would not be nearly as successful in today’s game given the reduced strike zone and advancements in hitting, analytics, etc. Smoltz would still have been really good, but you don’t see anyone that tops out at 91-92 mph being a successful starting pitcher for 7-10 years in today’s game. The game has changed, and power arms are necessary when you get to the postseason against elite hitters.

Note: don’t need 100% power arms, but you need enough to get you out of high leverage situations and close things out in the late innings. When a team is bunting the tying or winning run over, you want 96-98mph bearing down on them making it tough to get the bunt down. 86-90mph with sink or even side movement won’t keep an average player from getting a bunt down. Same thing with runner on 3rd w/less than 2 outs in the 8th or 9th, need a power arms that can strike a guy out or make it difficult to make decent contact to score the run.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16665 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 10:30 pm to
Gotta remember in Maddux’s day the average fastball was probably 89-90, which Maddux was at for most of his career. The elite guys then were throwing 95 and an upper 90s guy was incredibly rare. Maddux had an average to above average fastball, contextually, in terms of velocity for the first half of his career and in his prime.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16665 posts
Posted on 6/1/25 at 10:31 pm to
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they oughta be training for mental toughness and pitch location

Maybe but they aren’t giving out signing bonuses and racing guys through the system who can spot 88.
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