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Bear88
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re: -It’s finally over- He’s Gone
If they are not going to fire him, then we should decline the NIT bid. At ieast this would let him know this crap is unacceptable and he has one year to piss or get off the pot. Cannot believe the collapse again.


Herman Frisco
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re: -It’s finally over- He’s Gone
A collapse every year. How do you do that?


Canyon16
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re: -It’s finally over- He’s Gone
Terrible coaching is how a team gets worse. Well coached teams usually progress this time of year. If you ever watch another game between good teams you see how far our players are behind in simple fundamentals.


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Judah Mann
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re: -It’s finally over- He’s Gone
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How long has it been since we were good every year?


Since the deepest Alabama has ever advanced in the NCAA tourney is the elite eight, I would say the answer to your question is NEVER. Football isn't going to be king forever. Bama better get their shite together on the hardwood or they will become completely irrelevant.
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biggsc
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re: -It’s finally over- He’s Gone
Agree


Bamafan18
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re: -It’s finally over- He’s Gone
If we miss the tourney and don’t fire him, that will prove Alabama doesn’t give AF about basketball. And it pisses me off bc I care just as much about basketball as I do football
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phil4bama
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re: -It’s finally over- He’s Gone
IMHO, I think Wimp had a couple of teams that should have made the Elite Eight if not the Final Four but Wimp had two problems. 1) He always ran into the hot team. And 2) Wimp always shot his wad in the SEC tourney Bama always went deep in the conference dance with him. I think it hurt us sometimes playing in the finals instead of resting.


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biggsc
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re: -It’s finally over- He’s Gone
#TrustGregByrne


TiderNAL
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re: -It’s finally over- He’s Gone
Anyone hearing anything more on whether or not Avery and fam are still wanting out of Tuscaloosa?


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pvilleguru
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re: -It’s finally over- He’s Gone
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Since the deepest Alabama has ever advanced in the NCAA tourney is the elite eight, I would say the answer to your question is NEVER

That's bull shite.


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SummerOfGeorge
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re: -It’s finally over- He’s Gone
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Since the deepest Alabama has ever advanced in the NCAA tourney is the elite eight, I would say the answer to your question is NEVER. Football isn't going to be king forever. Bama better get their shite together on the hardwood or they will become completely irrelevant.



We were very, very good basically the entire 1970s under CM and the entire 1980s under Wimp. If the NCAAT rules had been what they are today we probably would have 6-8 additional tournament appearances (1972, 1973, 1974, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1970, 1981).

1973 : 22-8 (13-5)
1974 : 22-4 (15-3)
1975 : 22-5 (15-3)
1976 : 23-5 (15-3)
1977 : 25-6 (14-4)
1978 : 17-10 (11-7)
1979 : 22-11 (11-7)
1980 : 18-12 (12-6)
1981 : 18-11 (10-8)
1982 : 24-7 (12-6)
1983 : 20-12 (8-10)
1984 : 18-12 (10-8)
1985 : 23-10 (11-7)
1986 : 24-9 (13-5)
1987 : 28-5 (16-2)
1988 : 14-17 (6-12)
1989 : 23-8 (12-6)
1990 : 26-9 (12-6)
1991 : 23-10 (12-6)
1992 : 26-9 (10-6)


We basically had 1 bad year in 20 years and 4-5 great years.

Hell, we were basically very good or good from 1972 to 2006 outside of 1 bad year and the end of Hobbs/start of Gottfried. We had some really good teams in the 30s/40s/50s as well, they just don't get a lot of talk because Kentucky absolutely dominated the NCAAT birth for the SEC in those years and so those teams didn't win anything.

- Hank Crisp had a 67% winning % from 1924 to 1946
- Johnny Dee had a 73% winning % from 1953 to 1953
- CM had a 63% winning % from 1969 to 1980 (and that includes 22-54 in his first 3 years) (his winning % was 73% from 1972 to 1980)
- Wimp had a 69% winning % from 1981 to 1992

So, we've consistently had good basketball for long periods of time for a long period of time. We're probably the 2nd or 3rd most consistent program in the SEC in terms of not having many "bad" teams in the last 50-75 years. We just haven't had many postseason breakthroughs like, say, LSU has.
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phil4bama
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re: -It’s finally over- He’s Gone
I still say that ‘76 team was arguably the best one we ever put on the floor and if we hadn’t run into that magical Indiana team led by Bob Knight and Quinn Buckner that went undefeated, we most likely make the Final Four.


SummerOfGeorge
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re: -It’s finally over- He’s Gone
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I still say that ‘76 team was arguably the best one we ever put on the floor and if we hadn’t run into that magical Indiana team led by Bob Knight and Quinn Buckner that went undefeated, we most likely make the Final Four.



Yep - and they CM stats also show how unfair it can be to use NCAATs as a measuring point.

1972, 1973 and 1974 went a combined 62-20 and 41-13 in the SEC and made 0 NCAA Tournaments.

The 1956 team went 21-3, 14-0 in the SEC, beat Kentucky by 24 pts and didn't go to the NCAAT while Kentucky did
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Sauron
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re: -It’s finally over- He’s Gone
I know it's irrational, but something inside can't ever hope Billy Donovan becomes our basketball coach.

And it's all because he was a guard on that 1987 Providence team that beat us in the tournament. That '87 Bama team could have won the entire thing, I think … if Donovan hadn't been almost perfect from three-point range. The whole flippin' Providence team was something like 67% on threes that night.


Lordofwrath88
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re: -It’s finally over- He’s Gone
I mean, if you're not in high school, a lot of us can remember hating Nick Saban's guts.


phil4bama
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re: -It’s finally over- He’s Gone
I agree with Sauron. Part of me would absolutely have a man crush on having Billy D. in Tuscaloosa as our coach. But it’s never going to happen.

So I will always remember him as the Eddie Munster prick that upset the best Bama basketball team in 30 years THEN came to Florida and made them a national powerhouse. frick him with a broken whiskey bottle.


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pvilleguru
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re: -It’s finally over- He’s Gone
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I mean, if you're not in high school, a lot of us can remember hating Nick Saban's guts.

I graduated from UA in 2010. I don't remember any hate for Saban before we hired him.


TiderNAL
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re: -It’s finally over- He’s Gone
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If we miss the tourney and don’t fire him, that will prove Alabama doesn’t give AF about basketball. And it pisses me off bc I care just as much about basketball as I do football


I think it would prove more that Alabama has done a terrible job in selecting basketball coaches then rewarding them with lucrative buyouts and contract extensions when they haven't proven themselves or accomplished anything of note.


SummerOfGeorge
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re: -It’s finally over- He’s Gone
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I graduated from UA in 2010. I don't remember any hate for Saban before we hired him.



The only period of hate for Saban was that week before the LSU game in 2002 when Fran made up that quote and then pointed in his face postgame. Then within the year we all figured out it was made up.

All I remember thinking about Saban was gawd daym his teams are fvckin terrifying. And I was in college most of his tenure at LSU.


pvilleguru
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re: -It’s finally over- He’s Gone
I watched a ton of college football back then, but never paid much attention to LSU outside of knowing that they were good. I remember after we hired Saban, I had to ask my friend who grew up an LSU fan (who I helped convert to a UA fan) what he thought of Saban.


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