Yokelhoma

Could be OU tbh. We play Michigan week 2 on Big Nude Saturday. So if the SEC wins the few somewhat tough games in week 1, and Mizzou beats KU, it could be us. I expect us to win as well but Michigan is pretty good.

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OU fans and insiders frequently overrate their talent. We have heard this kind of preseason stuff before only for them to go 6-7. Average skill position players across the board (they are calling Parker Livingston a “stud” which should tell you a lot). Their QB is massively over-hyped. Their defense is very solid but elite? No. 8-9 win team.

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8-9 wins would cover the win total, FWIW. 9-3 would be a good year for us with an outside shot at the playoff.

And our win total last year was 6.5 and we won 10 games, so I'm not sure where you're getting this idea that OU fans overrate our team every year. Seems like the opposite in fact.

Oh yeah, and if our defense isn't elite, then no defense is elite.

This you?

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Think Venables is trending up and Heupel is trending down, but that could flip in a year.

Personally, OU already did the "great offense, shite defense" thing for a while, and I prefer having a great defense even if we're still trying to find a good offense. Having a great defense instills a toughness component to your overall team and its mindset. So even if the stats are equal (or Heupel has slightly better ones), I'd choose Venables for that alone.

Agreed, if our Oline is that good we probably win the conference. I’ll believe it when I see it.

Anyone who thinks OU isn’t going to be good is in for a disappointment. Except for Texas who apparently has our number even when they’re kind of shitty like last year.

The real difference between Mizzou and OU is that when the SEC adds a 9th conference game, Mizzou complains and cries about it and OU fist pumps.

That's the reason the programs have such different traditions, not some stupid excuse about paying players (which literally every school did).

You really need someone to explain why openly white supremacist groups (even if they’re just marching) make people uneasy?

I gotta say I love the cognitive dissonance on the right about who these guys actually are. It was the same with the Jan 6th retards. They were simultaneously (1) feds/antifa pretending to be right wing protestors and (2) patriots who did nothing wrong and deserved pardons from Trump.

Oh, and to what someone said above about the incompetence of racists these days, that is definitely a trend. Again, it was the same with the Jan 6th people, they were definitely up to no good but were so dumb they had no idea what to do once they were in the Capitol. It’s also similar with the Trump Administration. They’re awful but thankfully they’re fricking retarded as well so a lot of their shite doesn’t actually get implemented very well (see ICE, Iran, etc).

That solution means teenagers and adults who are born in America to illegal immigrants after birthright citizenship is ended can be deported. I frankly don't morally agree with deporting grown people who have only known America to their parents' home country.

Also, I get the sense that some of y'all think immigrants will stop having kids here if birthright is ended. That's a fantasy.

Don't think it's right to force a teenager or adult who has lived their entire life in the US to move to some random country they've never been to simply because their parents moved here illegally. That person is an American in my eyes.

Now as for, say, a three-year-old who was born here? They can be sent back and it wouldn't bother me.

Where we draw the line though is fuzzy, and I'd rather let any birthright person stay than send back adult Americans.

And, ya know, being the second best football program of all time