Clemson81to85

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The Irish looked really slow on both sides of the ball and their qb stared down his targets. So for Uga to barely win, this is definitely an overrated win.

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30-3 victory over Notre Dame in Cotton Bowl = Clemson got a bye in the semi and didn't have to play anyone.


23-17 hang on for dear life at home = Greatest win over a traditional power ever!

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Watching games and looking at Stadium pictures this weekend showed a lot of empty seats. The era of full stadiums is over. People will decide to go or not to go on a week to week basis.

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Sounds like its time to lower ticket prices.

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Since you brought up history here is some history on clempson cheating

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And here's your history lesson. By the way, somebody needs to eexplain to Utah poster about Fits News. While they're at it tell the poor guy about self reported secondary violations. He thought he had a headline that day, LOL. But here's your history lesson and a headline.

A few years ago when Southern California was placed on probation. Some people were surprised by the severity of the penalties (only USC fans, really). But in the report released by the NCAA, it was directly noted that the USC football program had previously been placed on probation five times since the early 1950s. I’m sure USC’s repeat violations had some impact on the severity of the penalties they received in 2010.

Listed below are the current FBS schools that have been placed on probation, in which the school’s football team was somehow involved. It’s important to keep in mind that violations in other sports often bring attention to a school’s entire athletic program. Sometimes the football violations paled in comparison to violations in other sports, but if the football program was involved I still listed them (i.e. Baylor’s probation from 2005-09).

College Football (FBS) Programs That Have Been Sanctioned the Most

Note: The count includes seasons not yet completed (i.e. USC 2012-2013).
Rk School Seasons Sanctioned
1 Southern Methodist (TX) 17 7
2 Southern California 15 6
3 Auburn (AL) 11 4
4t Alabama 10 3
4t Michigan St. 10 3
4t Oklahoma 10 5
7t Colorado 9 5
7t Illinois 9 5
7t Texas A&M 9 4
7t Wisconsin 9 4
11t Arizona St. 8 4
11t California 8 3
11t Cincinnati (OH) 8 4
11t Kansas 8 4
11t Kansas St. 8 4
11t Miami (FL) 8 3
11t Oklahoma St. 8 2
11t South Carolina 8 3
19t Florida Intl 7 2
19t Houston (TX) 7 3
19t Memphis (TN) 7 3
19t Mississippi 7 3
19t Mississippi St. 7 3
19t Ohio St. 7 3
19t Texas Tech 7 3

Notes

Since 1953, the year the NCAA instituted penalties, Southern Methodist has spent 29% of their seasons on probation. By 2013, Southern California will have spent 25% of their seasons on probation.

The 2012 season, will be Florida International’s first season off of probation since they joined the Sun Belt Conference in 2005.

Schools that are currently from the SEC have been sanctioned 35 times, for a total of 77 seasons; the most by any conference in the FBS.

College Football (FBS) and NCAA Probation by Conference

Note: The count includes seasons not yet completed (i.e. USC 2012-2013).
Conference Sanctioned Seasons
Atlantic Coast 18 38
Big 12 25 56
Big East 8 14
Big Ten 21 48
Conference USA 22 51
Independents 2 3
Mid-American 3 4
Mountain West 6 12
Pac-12 31 64
Southeastern 35 77
Sun Belt 5 13
Western Athletic 3 8

The bowl ban is one of the most severe penalties the NCAA can hand out. Since 1953, the NCAA has handed out a total of 80 bowl bans to current FBS schools.

Auburn and Southern Methodist are tied for the most years of bowl bans; nine bowl bans in total.

College Football (FBS) Programs That Have Received the Most Bowl Bans

Rk School Years Bowl Bans
1t Auburn (AL) 9 4
1t Southern Methodist (TX) 9 5
3 Southern California 6 4
4t Florida 5 3
4t Houston (TX) 5 2
4t Kansas St. 5 2
4t Miami (FL) 5 3
4t Oklahoma 5 3
4t Oklahoma St. 5 2
10t Indiana 4 1
10t North Carolina St. 4 1
10t Texas A&M 4 4
10t UCLA 4 2
14t Alabama 3 2
14t Arizona St. 3 3
14t California 3 2
14t Colorado 3 2
14t Illinois 3 2
14t Kansas 3 3
14t Kentucky 3 3
14t Michigan St. 3 1
14t Mississippi 3 2
14t Mississippi St. 3 2
14t Tulsa (OK) 3 1

I Didn't come up with this so I have to credit a fellow Clemson fan, but is it Roll Tired, or Roll Damn Tired?

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He just cares about being drafted

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Which means he won't play in your bowl at all. He will decline.

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You mean the last 5 years? Congrat's! That is mostly due to Clemson & FSU being 9-1 vs SC and Fla over that period, but that is changing. You want to break down numbers with interconference play? Here you go sweet tits. NCAA Interconference records since 1998

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Florida, LOL, with the all time 105-98-13 record against the current ACC teams. 105-99-13 if you want to count Notre Dame. Good thing you played Wake 4 times, which Georgia, who is 1-2 vs the Deacs, can't say.
And, by the way, 9-1 vs Florida and South Carolina should never ever happen, under any circumstances, if the SEC is as dominant as you claim.

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all respectively lose to Texas, Miami, Clemson, and Oregon??? It could conceivably happen (but, not likely). If it does, good grief, are we going to hear about it here like nothing else. But, it's also conceivable that the SEC teams could make it a sweep. Currently, LSU, Florida, and Auburn are favored to win. A&M is only a 12.5 pt underdog at Clemson (generally give 6 pts for the home team, so that's pretty close). Is this more a testament to A&M being a legitimate threat this year (I think they are) or to Clemson's defense, which is playing at home with some new faces on the D side?

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If that happened, the SEC would go from 26-28 against the ACC in the playoff era to 26-30 vs the ACC in the playoff era.

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Clemson is so overrated, they play nobody all year and then beat their chest when they have one good game. All your d-lineman are gone now, time to come back down to earth

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And Georgia plays three decent teams all year, losses to all three, gets blown out of two, and cries for six months about not making the playoffs. After 39 years, you're officially a one hit wonder.

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Some of you Bammers are something else. The previous two games Clemson and Bama met in the title game, Clemson had the tougher draw, and the year the two met in the semi-final game, Bama did not have to play in their conference championship game, effectively giving extra time to prepare. Yet, I don't recall most Clemson fans making such a constant excuse about it. To the contrary, Clemson fans readily admit Bama reamed us in the 2018 semi-final game.

Also, yes -Bama was having success running the ball early and would likely have been better served had they stayed with it. That said, I don't think they could have out scored a deep team that was used to playing the majority of the roster in every game. The 'ship game ended with a 10 minute 90+ yard coronation march that ended with the mercy knee. Perhaps Bama should have similarly developed roster depth when they were blowing away teams during the regular season.

Excuses carry much more weight following nail biters as opposed to blow-outs.

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SO true. The one that really gets me is the crying about having to play Oklahoma in the heat and humidity of Miami, while we got to play indoors in Dallas. In 2015 we beat Oklahoma in the heat and humidity of Miami, while Bama played indoors in Dallas. And Michigan State was one of the easiest draws ever. We lost by 5 in the title game, but never crossed my mind to use the semi game humidity as an excuse. Then comes the part about Notre Dame this year being an easier semi opponent than Okahoma was for Bama this year. Hmmm, I'm not sure Notre Dame was an easier opponent than Bama, much less Oklahoma. Then comes the ACC schedule allowing us a year of rest. Bama won their games by a larger margin than we did. They should have been very well rested. I had heard the CBS crews talking about Tua never getting to play in the 4th quarter. If our regular season schedule was easy, then the postseason was easier as the margin of victory was larger in Charlotte, Dallas and Santa Clara than the regular season. Then there is the tried and true conference championship game excuse. WE played Pitt, while they played Georgia. As you said, the previous year they didn't have to play a conference championship game at all. We lost by 18 and I never even dreamed of using that as an excuse. Again, as you said, excuses might apply in a close loss, but a four touchdown, take a 1st down knee at the five with 35 seconds and two timeouts loss, not hardly.
To their credit, most of these excuses came weeks and months later after some thought. The day after the game, they were pretty much saying woodshed, which was a better look. Alabama is a great program and the standard bearer. These excuses are beneath them. They are probably a couple of weeks shy of being closer to their next national championship than they are to the Santa Clara debacle.

Looks like Dabo was wrong. All 27 supplements used by Clemson tested negative.