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Posted on 3/1/19 at 9:28 am
Posted by LarryCulpepper
Member since May 2018
478 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 9:28 am
What are our expectations for the King of Greek Mythology this year?

One ACL is hard enough to bounce back from, two tears on the same knee is even harder but both ACLs in a span of two years? Sheesh, I can't imagine the adversity coming back from that.

I think we have all rightfully tapered back our expectations but I'd like to know everyone else's thoughts on how often we get to see him in the rotation, number of carries, estimated YPC, etc...


Let's hear it
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
9804 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 9:30 am to
Posted by LarryCulpepper
Member since May 2018
478 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 9:32 am to
We all can read Dawgnation @CobbDawg.


I was more interested in a discussion based on people's opinions aka what this board is supposed to be for.

Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6940 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 9:40 am to
I expect White will be ready to play by game 5, but with the strength of our schedule coming in the 2nd half of the season, he will get limited carries. Expect him to be ready to step up in 2020 when he will be most needed.
Remember the struggle Chubb had in his first season back.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
6998 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 9:41 am to
Zeus has a long productive career in his future.

UGA has an outstanding record of helping players rebound from ACL tears. Gurley, Chubb and Zamir were all either operated on by James Andrews or operated on with the assistance of James Andrews. ACL repair that's followed be proper rehabilitation often results in a stronger knee than before injury.

The support that previously injured UGA players provide is outstanding. Thomas Davis, Gurley and Chubb have all pitched in for emotional support.

I think that Zeus will eventually accomplish great things. Patience is the key.
Posted by Hobnail
ATL
Member since Oct 2014
3197 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 9:52 am to
quote:

Remember the struggle Chubb had in his first season back.



While I agree he made not be 100% all 2019, you can't compare his injuries to Chubb at all. Zeus was 2 clean tears with no structural damage. Chubb's entire knee turned to goo. Zeus should have a much shorter recovery and bounceback period. Granted it will take him some time to get up to 'SEC speed' in that he will be playing college ball for the first time, but I think his recovery will be much smoother than Chubb. Think Gurley's recovery between his tear and his rookie year in the NFL.
Posted by Long Dawg
Acworth, GA
Member since Dec 2017
2046 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 10:42 am to
Is that true?

I have never heard Dr James Andrews associated with UGA and our athlete’s surgical procedures.
Posted by ugadawg30
Jackson, GA
Member since Feb 2014
220 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 11:49 am to
Expecting him to play this year.... hopefully progressing by the end of the year.... I have heard that he is doing well as far as his rehabbing... but he is not the same running back yet.... time will tell
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42471 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 12:08 pm to
As long as he stays healthy, he’ll be ready to play by game 1, but I think we’ll be very careful with him.

ACLs don’t take as long to heal as they used to, but we also have so many good RBs there’s no need to push him against teams we should smoke.
Posted by lambertdawg
South Forsyth County
Member since Sep 2012
912 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 1:22 pm to
Typical schedule would give him the green light at 9 months after surgery. Based on the care he’s getting he’s probably ahead of schedule. He was likely cleared for straight line running at 6 months, cutting at 7-8 months and full green light at 9 months. They’ll probably keep him out of Spring football to be cautious but he’ll likely be full go at the beginning of camp.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
6998 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 2:27 pm to
Yes, from what I've read that is true. James Andrews performed Gurley's ACL repair and supervised UGA doctors at Athens General for repairs to Chubb and Zamir. James Andrews oversaw Gurley's rehab requiring Todd to live in Tallahassee for a while.

Keith Marshall had his ACL repaired by some North Carolina doctor unfortunately.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63867 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 3:35 pm to
DBK 2.0
Posted by NCDawg52
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2014
3151 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 3:57 pm to
You are dramatically overestimating the importance of the name of the surgeon. James Andrews is primarily a marketing entity these days.
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
5374 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 4:19 pm to
In some cases that's true but not in cases like this. There is absolutely a difference between surgeons that may not make a huge difference for most of us that aren't at the physical level of an athlete, but for them it definitely makes a difference.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63867 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 5:38 pm to
People, rightfully so, have an "overestimated" view about surgery. It is actually a very sloppy disgusting nasty shitshow full of potential complications on multiple dimensions, and the skill of the surgeon actually is important.

The old saying about Laws and Sausage should be applied to surgery too.
This post was edited on 3/1/19 at 5:39 pm
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3940 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 7:15 pm to
quote:

the skill of the surgeon actually is important.
It absolutely is but unless Dr. Andrews performed it himself, it doesn't make much of a difference if he was standing in the room.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63867 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 8:33 pm to
quote:

It absolutely is but unless Dr. Andrews performed it himself, it doesn't make much of a difference if he was standing in the room.


Not true. You are wrong on the completely opposite side of the spectrum from NCDawg52.

Also, surgery is only part of this formula.

A very important part, but only one part.

Pre-surgery is important.

Post-surgery is important.

This is a story, and every story has a beginning, a middle, and an end.

The beginning, middle, and end all intertwine.

What kind of rehab? How is Zamir's own biology doing with this? Are we using silver? Are we using stem cells?


This topic reminds me of one of my favorite songs.



Like a Surgeon by Weird Al

Like a Surgeon - Weird Al




Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3940 posts
Posted on 3/1/19 at 11:58 pm to
quote:

Also, surgery is only part of this formula. 

A very important part, but only one part. 

Pre-surgery is important. 

Post-surgery is important. 
I agree with all of this. That doesn't change the part where a world class surgeon consulting with the guy doing the cutting is completely different than a world class surgeon doing the cutting himself.
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
9804 posts
Posted on 3/2/19 at 8:42 am to
quote:

We all can read Dawgnation @CobbDawg.


I was more interested in a discussion based on people's opinions aka what this board is supposed to be for.


The DawgNation article included quotes from his HS coach as well as examples of other players who’ve gone through similar situations. I don’t know many here who are insiders and can expound on Zeus’ condition. I hope you didn’t first read the article and then come here and pose the question that you did.
Posted by Walkthedawg
Dawg Pound
Member since Oct 2012
11466 posts
Posted on 3/4/19 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

One ACL is hard enough to bounce back from, two tears on the same knee is even harder but both ACLs in a span of two years? Sheesh, I can't imagine the adversity coming back from that.


I thought they were different knee's?
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