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re: Zeus coming back

Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:29 pm to
Posted by DawgRff
Snellville Ga
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:29 pm to
Zeus is the best back on the roster imo. I keep seeing Kendall Milton's name come up but Zeus is a harder runner and his jump step is a killer. Just wait when the Oline get settled. The combination of Zeus and Milton will show glimpses of Gurley and Chubb in 2014 when they pound the hell out of Auburn.



Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
40224 posts
Posted on 1/16/21 at 10:29 pm to
That first run, holy shite.
Posted by DawgRff
Snellville Ga
Member since Jul 2012
6574 posts
Posted on 1/16/21 at 10:54 pm to
The second vid shows how violent he can be with a running start. He put a lick on Cin's 6'3 235 LB.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26046 posts
Posted on 1/16/21 at 10:58 pm to
I love his pad level and how he runs behind them.

When he gets to bouncing right as well as he bounces and cuts left.... good night defense.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61915 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 6:56 am to
quote:

Cook became relevant later in the season because they started throwing to him. He still isn't a good rusher, imo.




In all honesty, I felt this way too, last year. I felt like he went down on contact, and struggled finishing his runs with any power.

This season, though, he changed my mind. He is still not quite as good as some on the team at finishing his runs and punishing the defense, but he more than makes up for it with his speed and pass catching ability. I think we will all be happy this year with Cook as Monken gets used to how to use the different backs.

I still marvel at the catch/run he made against Alabama.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26046 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 7:17 am to
I agree on cook. After his first 2 seasons, I said that he needed to show me what he could do against p5 competition.

He did. He is a weapon. I was wrong for doubting him this past offseason.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61915 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 6:37 am to
Interesting tidbit on Zeus yesterday. I think it was from Rusty Mansell:
I spoke to a couple of scouting sources over the weekend that told me UGA should be ecstatic about getting Zamir White. If you listen to our podcast, you'll hear about how NFL Draft Analyst Matt Miller thinks White could be one of the top two running backs taken in the 2022 NFL Draft. That caused me to check with some scouting contacts and one told me that White posted an impressive top speed on his 75-yard touchdown run against Florida this year. That same source told me that it would have been among the top five or six top speeds posted in the NFL this season.

I'll just leave this here right now for the Zeus nay sayers.
This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 8:26 am
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
14469 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 7:35 am to
Wow!! Just awesome determination and power to break tackles to get both of those 1st downs.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61915 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 8:27 am to
Absolutely. For whatever reason, we have a lot of fans that just do not appreciate some players while they are at Georgia. I've never fully understood that.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
47931 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 8:42 am to
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Absolutely. For whatever reason, we have a lot of fans that just do not appreciate some players while they are at Georgia.


It has nothing to do with not appreciating Zeus and all he's done. I don't believe he has the same vision as someone like Milton. On Zeus's highlight video you posted earlier, on almost every play, he ran where the play was designed to go, even if there wasn't a hole to run through. To his credit, he is strong enough to gain 3 yards on those plays anyways.

It's a lot like Keith Marshall. Marshall had otherworldly speed and he was plenty big and strong enough to be a good RB, but even before the injuries, he never had the vision that it takes to be a great RB.

Gurley had it in spades. The great RBs can create positive plays when the designed hole isn't there because they have the vision to see where the open space is to run to.

Lack of vision is why Trent Richardson was such a bust in the NFL. He ran where the play was designed to go on almost every snap and the result was stuff like this.

This post was edited on 1/19/21 at 8:43 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61915 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 10:13 am to
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It has nothing to do with not appreciating Zeus and all he's done. I don't believe he has the same vision as someone like Milton.


I keep seeing this. Out of curiosity, cna you find a play in which Milton showed exceptional vision and one where Zamir showed a lack of vision?

I mean, Milton, I think probably has good vision. (There is not enough film on him for me to decide) I have not seen any kind of indication that Zamir's vision is not good....it is much better than average, I would say.

quote:

On Zeus's highlight video you posted earlier, on almost every play, he ran where the play was designed to go, even if there wasn't a hole to run through.
There are times in which a RB can get caught up in a stack and can't see to bounce a play, but there are numerous instances in which he has shown where he would bounce a play to the outside.

The only plays I can think of that you are mentioning are plays designed to go outside. Trust me...in the SEC you do NOT want RBs changing direction and trying to take the play in the opposite direction. SEC players are WAY too fast to get away with that and more often than not you end up with a really bad loss.

Would you mind pointing out the plays you are talking about. (Which video and at what point in the video?) I am just trying to understand what people are seeing that I am not.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
7353 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 11:51 am to
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It has nothing to do with not appreciating Zeus and all he's done. I don't believe he has the same vision as someone like Milton.


I've seen numerous plays where Zeus made two or more cuts to gain more yardage. Many times the difference in a 3 yard gain and a 12-20 yard run is merely a slight lean or turn that allows an RB to slide out of a tackle. Chubb is exceptional at this. he seems to simply brush by a tackler and hits open space.
I'll take White for another year.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
40224 posts
Posted on 1/19/21 at 5:54 pm to
quote:

just leave this here right now for the Zeus nay sayers.


Anything they say doesn’t really have merit anymore
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61915 posts
Posted on 1/20/21 at 5:48 am to
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Anything they say doesn’t really have merit anymore




To a large degree I agree. I mainly am just trying to see where they are coming from. I see very good vision, yet this seems to be a mantra that just doesn't die.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
40224 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 8:03 am to
Some confuse no holes with missing giant holes. Even Chubb gets no yards with no holes.
Posted by TallyDawg
Florida
Member since Jul 2013
930 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 12:13 pm to
Cook proved me wrong too - at least as a pass catcher out of the backfield.

Milton absolutely flashed this season and I'm most excited about him over any other RB on the roster not named Zeus.

Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61915 posts
Posted on 1/21/21 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

Cook proved me wrong too - at least as a pass catcher out of the backfield.



I always thought he could catch and then run with the ball. We were just not calling plays to take advantage of what I thought were his main talents.

He showed me he could run with authority this past season. He seemed a tad bigger....maybe 5-10 pounds, and I thought he ran much better, too. Looked stronger and did a much better job of finishing his runs.

quote:

Milton absolutely flashed this season and I'm most excited about him over any other RB on the roster not named Zeus.


Milton will definitely be a star. He just looked the part, and did the most with his carries. Hopefully he can stay healthy going forward. But I was also pleasantly surprised with McIntosh. I felt he would be good, but he looked really, really good.....but I was absolutely shocked at Daijun Edwards. I had considered him depth and filler at best. Somebody to spell the "real" RBs, but he looked really good, too. I am absolutely thrilled with the stable of backs we have going into next (this) year/season. We could have 2-3 injuries and still be okay.
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