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re: Why can't Georgia win a Playoff Game in the Modern Expanded Playoff?

Posted on 1/4/26 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by Bulldawg2010
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 1:08 pm to
I already know what kind of OC he is.

I already know he relies too much on screens, because of reasons. I expect anywhere from 7-10 screens to be called per game. I wonder if the other teams defensive coordinators expect it too.

I know his go to is run, run, pass, punt.

I already know he will inexplicably stop doing what is working.

I already know what we are working with. I’m not impressed. However, I’m just an “arm chair” coach. My opinion is irrelevant on the subject

Posted by SquatchDawg
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 1:23 pm to
It’s almost as if the teams we play don’t have scholarship athletes that are pretty good too.

Do you expect 50 pts a game?

Do you think an OC can outscheme a tackle getting beaten or future NFL DE on the other side if the ball.

Who did you blame when Monken lost a game or our offense looked bad under him? Bennett?

I have no issue calling out bad calls but the whole “Bobo sucks” thing on the rare occasion when we lose a game is tiring.
This post was edited on 1/4/26 at 1:26 pm
Posted by Bulldawg2010
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 1:34 pm to
It’s also tiring seeing the 11th screen called that everyone knows is coming.

But it’s too set up for that one time we will break one for 20 yards.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 1:34 pm to
I think yet again, a goal line big moment didn't go our way and the play looked pitiful. The call gave Olemiss time. How that game was going, if Kirby wanted to go for the win, We should have gotten what we could on third, burned the clock, then went on fourth for a TD. Not sure we win in OT.
Posted by SquatchDawg
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 1:39 pm to
Nobody is arguing that was a bad play call at the worst moment. Did Monken ever screw up a play call? Or Lane?
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 1:49 pm to
Monken has 2 NCs, his favorite plays were high percentage throws to the TE, they worked. The Bowers TD vs Bama was amazing.

if we ran two back to back toss sweeps, I swear I wouldn't bitch.
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 2:16 pm to
We have twice been beaten by senior and super senior laden team in the playoffs.

Kirby is playing the middle of Dabo and Cignetti.

Shades more towards Dabo but should be shading towards Cignetti.

We need talented juniors and seniors who are really hungry since their college days are close to being done.

No one paid attention to Mendoza, look at him now. Same with ND and OSU qb last year. Same with Trinidad and others.

Winning with portal players is the way to go sprinkled with some 4 and 5* HS players
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 2:29 pm to
I now agree, especially QBs though I have no issue with Stockton, he played hurt. it's all in spending the money on the right guys in the portal.
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 1/4/26 at 2:44 pm to
I have no issues with Stockton as well and firmly believed he played concussed in the GT and OM games.

Posted by Bradb5291
Member since Nov 2021
429 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 3:53 pm to


For all those saying we did well with the roster we had
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
4658 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 4:35 pm to
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For all those saying we did well with the roster we had


Do you believe that those numbers serve up guarantees of a single game outcome? Clearly they don't and the reasons for that go far beyond coaching. Starting with the fact that, statistically speaking, small sample sizes (Like "1") yield extremely variable results.

In other words, 12-2 is a lot more meaningful than 0-1. Over the course of a season, is where the Team Talent is more meaningful. And even then it takes good coaching to achieve a good outcome. That combination, coaching and talent, is why Georgia won 12 games, and the SEC title over some other very talented teams on that list.

But even then there are other variables that have shifted and made those team talent numbers less meaningful. One that you didn't bother to mention seems very obvious, but maybe not. So, rather than give you the benefit of considerable doubt, I'll explain it using an example or two.

Trinidad Chambliss is probably better than the zero HS rating, or 86 Transfer rating that he was given by the recruiting service that made that chart. In fact, Ole Miss' team ranked 11th in the SEC, and they've won every game played so far, except for one. So, talent data can't, don't, won't foretell every game outcome, regardless of coaching. And the transfer portal makes those numbers even less meaningful, because experience is important, and nobody has a good handle on transfer ratings.

Taking all of that into account, plus inexperience, injuries, and competition vs other good teams, it's perfectly accurate to say Georgia did well with the roster they had. But, if all of this leads you to say Kirby Smart must now switch to a portal based roster, please take out your checkbook and write a very long number and mail it to whomever they ask you to buy for next year's team. Because those numbers are about to get a lot longer and money doesn't grow on trees. Otherwise, stop complaining about the portal because you're part of the problem.
This post was edited on 1/4/26 at 5:07 pm
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
11571 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 5:29 pm to
Having the most talent roster doesn’t automatically equal success.

UGA has a larger NIL budget than IU and look at the team difference.

So, is it coaching or is it having more mature players who have more game experience or both?

If it’s both, then what are we talking about? You need heavy portal action.
Posted by Bradb5291
Member since Nov 2021
429 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:27 pm to
My opinion is coaching decisions/play calls during the game cost us way more than injuries.
This post was edited on 1/4/26 at 6:28 pm
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
4658 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 6:40 pm to
quote:

UGA has a larger NIL budget than IU and look at the team difference


You have no idea what those numbers are. Furthermore, you have no idea how Indiana would fare head to head against Georgia or against Georgia's full SEC schedule.

quote:

If it’s both, then what are we talking about? You need heavy portal action.


You're a Georgia fan, right? Get out your wallet. The prices are rising. Oh, wait I know, you contribute with message board advice to Georgia's head coach.
This post was edited on 1/4/26 at 6:44 pm
Posted by SemperFiDawg
Member since Sep 2014
4313 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 10:55 am to
quote:

Kirby is playing the middle of Dabo and Cignetti.

Shades more towards Dabo but should be shading towards Cignetti.


Bingo.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
6074 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 1:22 pm to
quote:

For all those saying we did well with the roster we had


There is often a marked difference between having the best players and having the right players.

Using that chart, 5 out of 6 teams with the heaviest "best player" rosters are gone; but only 3 out of 6 with with weakest "best player" rosters are gone. That said, it's rarely a one-variable calculation as to why teams win or lose.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
16243 posts
Posted on 1/5/26 at 1:25 pm to
Yeah, I think of the 90s Yankees, they spent many times more than other franchises, they won a bunch of championships but they didn't win the all. Same with Bama at Sabans peak.
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