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When you boil it down to its simplest terms, the ic pass to Delp on 3rd cost us the game
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:17 am
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:17 am
more than anything else. Stops the clock. The entire series Stockton should have been under center but if he pulls the ball on the rpo loss he walks in.
I know kids don't play much under center but taking the ball off the Los in that situation is dumb. I still think the I formation has its place there.
Watching Kirby pree conference, he says you play to win but I would say, first you have to play not to lose, then you play to win. The pass wasn't a terrible id but it needed to be a higher percentage play, like the Bower TD in Indy.
The all time greatest goal pass play is to flood one side of the field, and gunner can run it our throw it. Delp ran out of the end zone and didn't turn around in the field of play. he is a DGD but you have to trim and sit at least a yard or two before the back line.
Kirby needs to drill Offensive execution to the same level as monken.
I know kids don't play much under center but taking the ball off the Los in that situation is dumb. I still think the I formation has its place there.
Watching Kirby pree conference, he says you play to win but I would say, first you have to play not to lose, then you play to win. The pass wasn't a terrible id but it needed to be a higher percentage play, like the Bower TD in Indy.
The all time greatest goal pass play is to flood one side of the field, and gunner can run it our throw it. Delp ran out of the end zone and didn't turn around in the field of play. he is a DGD but you have to trim and sit at least a yard or two before the back line.
Kirby needs to drill Offensive execution to the same level as monken.
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:36 am to lewis and herschel
I don’t hate throwing on 3rd. You have to try to win.
The second down call/execution is another matter.
The second down call/execution is another matter.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:40 am to Crowknowsbest
I would say that going for the win also includes not intentional leaving close to a minute o. the clock. Terrible play call even if you want to pass.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:46 am to lewis and herschel
There would be no way to run the clock down if you score a touchdown, run or pass. I’m not sure what you mean.
I could understand and agree with wanting a higher percentage throw (ie kick it out wide to branch or a jet sweep to bell.
I could understand and agree with wanting a higher percentage throw (ie kick it out wide to branch or a jet sweep to bell.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:49 am to Crowknowsbest
No need to run the clock down if you score a td. But the opportunity cost is leaving too much time for a team with no timeouts.
My point is, if you throw there, you need a safe play where the ball gets caught and a td becomes yak, but if they don't score the clock bleeds, you kick the the fg with 5-10 seconds. That play was all or nothing.
My point is, if you throw there, you need a safe play where the ball gets caught and a td becomes yak, but if they don't score the clock bleeds, you kick the the fg with 5-10 seconds. That play was all or nothing.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:50 am to lewis and herschel
In hindsight and in hangover recovery mode, that game was a shite show.
OL couldn’t block
Going for it on 4th deep in our territory
Not being able to get the TD from the 4 yd line
Gunner only pressing the ball downfield on 1 drive
TE’s MIA on routes
What? 5 batted down passes?
Defense giving up over 30
Chambliss playing like Mahomes on that one drive
What a shitty finish to an otherwise great season.
OL couldn’t block
Going for it on 4th deep in our territory
Not being able to get the TD from the 4 yd line
Gunner only pressing the ball downfield on 1 drive
TE’s MIA on routes
What? 5 batted down passes?
Defense giving up over 30
Chambliss playing like Mahomes on that one drive
What a shitty finish to an otherwise great season.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:51 am to SquatchDawg
The 4th down mistake was on a freshman center not supposed to snap the ball period. Miscommunication.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 10:10 am to Crowknowsbest
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don’t hate throwing on 3rd. You have to try to win.
I freaking hate it. Call a run play or a rollout with a chance to run or pass. That play was the game right there.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 10:14 am to Porter Osborne Jr
Totally agree. You can pass, but it has to be something with a run pass option and a high probability of being caught.
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 10:22 am to lewis and herschel
Idk. Something tells me the 5 3 and outs in a row may of been a factor.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 10:41 am to lewis and herschel
Where did you get that info? Not trying to start anything but, would like to know if that is true.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 10:44 am to gulfportdawg
Kirby said in his presser, they were setting up a series of fake 4 down plays to ultimate cost Ole Miss tos or get their plays to relax and us actually go. That particular snap wasn't supposed to happen.
kirby wanted the delay to give thurson more room to work. he said so in the press conference.
kirby wanted the delay to give thurson more room to work. he said so in the press conference.
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Posted on 1/2/26 at 10:45 am to lewis and herschel
Ok, thanks.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 1:01 pm to gulfportdawg
Nobody has said anything about the huge mistake that Monroe Freeling made. For the second year in a row, he made a disastrous error blocking the edge rusher. Last year he just got totally beaten. This year he just didn’t even block his guy, he double teamed with 56 on his guy and let the edge rusher sprint straight in and blow up Gunner. I believe that was fourth down, we turn the ball over on a short field.
Also, Peyton Woodring left a makeable (for him) FG way short. Not to say it was a layup, but he makes that kick 8 times out of 10. Their guy makes it from 55 and 56. We didn’t.
Also, Peyton Woodring left a makeable (for him) FG way short. Not to say it was a layup, but he makes that kick 8 times out of 10. Their guy makes it from 55 and 56. We didn’t.
Posted on 1/2/26 at 1:28 pm to lambertdawg
To be fair I think that’s the play where we weren’t supposed to snap the ball and he just stayed in his stance like he was supposed to.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:35 am to SquatchDawg
Still overcame it and had a chance inside the five.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 9:58 am to lewis and herschel
I think OP is absolutely right here. That pass play was a bad call. I heard Kirby reasoning and as head coach you have to stick with your decisions so I’m okay with him defending himself. But he’s just wrong there. 1st down play after Young penalty set us up like 1st and goal on the 10. Gunner makes a good read run to the 2. Ole Miss timeout then 2nd and 2 we lost three yards! Gunner should’ve kept the ball in his hands and ran it to at least keep it 3rd and 2 hell maybe even 3rd and 1. But ole Miss is out of timeouts. That’s why I would never put the ball in the air because he almost threw a freaking pick. It would’ve been a tough play but ole Miss guy had a better chance than Delp. I understand you play to win but why does us saying run the ball mean we aren’t saying play to win. You can score on a run play too! But the big thing is we had 3 timeouts we run the ball on 3rd we don’t get it you run clock down and play for OT. Instead we gave them ball back with 58 seconds to do what they did.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 12:41 pm to MSGADawg5988
It's obvious to me. Bellicheck and Parcells used to say before you can win a game, you have to do things to not lose a game. Kirby needs to get that tattooed on his forearm.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 12:54 pm to lewis and herschel
How many time outs did Ole Miss have after that 3rd down pass? They would have stopped the clock. I just don't remember if they called TO on 4th down. Crazy to think we probably would have won if we scored a TD there. It felt like we lost a lot worse than we did.
Posted on 1/3/26 at 12:56 pm to agentoranj1990
Does anyone think we don’t score if we do an RPO to the right side or toss sweep with Bowens/Frazier in that situation?
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