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Posted on 11/19/19 at 3:41 pm to RD Dawg
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Greg Robinson
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Look at how many games he started at AU.
He's also been a huge flop
You are saying that he is a huge flop because he started 25 games for Auburn?
As if there is nothing else that could impact his 5 year NFL career other than how many starts he had in college...
Mmmmkay. Point for you.
Posted on 11/19/19 at 6:56 pm to meansonny
quote:Stokes could go this year.
Stokes are gone after 2020
Posted on 11/19/19 at 7:02 pm to SneakyWaff1es
Kirby confirmed for the first time that they’re hoping to redshirt Rochester this year
Posted on 11/19/19 at 7:09 pm to tylerdurden24
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tylerdurden24
Aren't you a HS coach? Have a question regarding Marietta HS
Posted on 11/19/19 at 7:22 pm to meansonny
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You are saying that he is a huge flop because he started 25 games for Auburn
Never said that but it certainly played a part in it IMO.
Simple question:Why have so few had such limited success in the NFL? Why have so few been drafted or even declared?
Hell even with all the great offensive lineman that Bama has put in the NFL unde
Saban I can't think of one Rsophmore that
declared or was drafted.There had to be some that were redshirted.
Update:Found 2 that were drafted in '19
One was 2nd Rd (Çody OU) and the other was
5th Rd.None drafted in '18,'17 or '16
This post was edited on 11/19/19 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 11/19/19 at 7:39 pm to RD Dawg
Not me, nope
Posted on 11/19/19 at 7:43 pm to tylerdurden24
Maybe Peter Osborne?
Posted on 11/19/19 at 7:53 pm to RD Dawg
I think so. There are one or two other as well
Posted on 11/19/19 at 7:56 pm to tylerdurden24
Thanks.I might just start a thread asking the question
Posted on 11/19/19 at 9:24 pm to athenslife101
I just want to see Campbell & Stevenson on the field at all times. If we can sign Ringo he may bee too good to keep off the field.
Honestly, though, the front 7 will be monstrous. They will make the secondary look good.
Honestly, though, the front 7 will be monstrous. They will make the secondary look good.
This post was edited on 11/19/19 at 9:42 pm
Posted on 11/19/19 at 9:51 pm to SneakyWaff1es
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Stokes are gone after 2020
Stokes could go this year.
You are correct. I think seeing what Baker could parlay from his senior season helps the prospects of keeping Stokes another year, though.
We are coaching up DBs. Even great ones to be even better.
It wouldn't shock me if Stokes left. But there is a precedent that we can get him into the first round.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 5:18 am to VADawg
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He's probably 4th in the QB pecking order right now, which is usually good enough to land in the top 20 of the draft.
4th Qb from 2010-19:
85
35
22
98
36
89
51
52
10
42
Posted on 11/20/19 at 5:19 am to RD Dawg
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Not a very good history with Rsophmores and the NFL draft especially O Lineman.
Remember that list I gave you last time you tried to make this fantastic point? Of course not.
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 5:23 am
Posted on 11/20/19 at 6:43 am to djsdawg
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Remember that list I gave you last time you tried to make this fantastic point?
Yes I do and how many Rsophmores were on that list? You listed ALL Juniors leaving early (Laremy Tunsil was one) You still don't seem to know the difference between a Rsophmore and a Junior.
Here is the list BTW
Jonah Williams (Jr)
Laramy Tunsil (Jr)
DJ Humphries (Jr)
Cyrus Kouandjio (Jr)
Andrus Peat (Jr)
Andre Smith (Jr)
Shawn Andrews (Jr)
All of them played as a true freshman
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 6:54 am
Posted on 11/20/19 at 7:18 am to RD Dawg
I believe my point was 1 freshman season 3 years ago isn’t the glaring difference you claim it is. It’s all about what he has done since then, which is play very well, and his ceiling, which is very high. Just like those guys who didn’t Redshirt as freshmen.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 9:45 am to djsdawg
The redshirt was because of isaiah Wynn and Andrew thomas.
It isnt the normal circumstance that a 5 star talent is redshirted because he is behind two first round draft picks.
Hanging your hat on that redshirt as a sole reason to return because what other RSSoph do is a long, high limb to hold onto.
It isnt the normal circumstance that a 5 star talent is redshirted because he is behind two first round draft picks.
Hanging your hat on that redshirt as a sole reason to return because what other RSSoph do is a long, high limb to hold onto.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 10:50 am to meansonny
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Hanging your hat on that redshirt as a sole reason
When was this said? I also said he'd make more money (barring injury)if he returns.He still has more room for improvement.
BTW,I'd still like to know why so few have
made the transition?This isn't just OT's it's also OG's and Centers.
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The redshirt was because of isaiah Wynn and Andrew thomas.
What?Talk about revisionist history.
He wasn't ready physically and freely admits it
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At 6-foot-7, Wilson has never been a small man, although the Brooklyn native laughs there’s actually a lot less of him than there used to be.
“I’m at 330 … 50 pounds lighter,” said Wilson, whose major goal when he got to Athens was to get in better shape.
It wasn’t easy.
“It was an adjustment heat wise,” Wilson said. “It can get real humid out there, so you get tired, you can’t really breathe; it was a big adjustment.”
Another article about Wilson as freshman
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The mammoth lineman was never really a factor, especially early in the season, and once he started to turn a corner, offensive line coach Sam Pittman and the rest of the staff felt it best to redshirt him
This post was edited on 11/20/19 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 11/20/19 at 1:20 pm to RD Dawg
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Hanging your hat on that redshirt as a sole reason
When was this said?
You have about 5 posts to the effect.
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I also said he'd make more money (barring injury)
That was half a post. And is all conjecture. 1 year in the NFL could pay $1M+ a year. So he would need to make about $400k more per year on a three year contract to offset not making $1M the year prior.
Could he make more? Sure. Again... conjecture. But he'd have to make up a lost season of roughly $1M.
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BTW,I'd still like to know why so few have
made the transition
Because great players play as freshman. Wilson is a great player who didnt.
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What?Talk about revisionist history.
It isnt revisionist. It is a fact. Lots of worse players play as true freshmen when needed (Kendall Baker, Kendarious Gates).
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He wasn't ready physically and freely admits it
I agree. And I already acknowledged that.
You are hung up on this red herring for redshirts. UGA is a different team. Wilson is a different player.
Posted on 11/20/19 at 2:05 pm to meansonny
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to the effect
You should be testifying before Congress
This about the 3 Rd post where you put words in my mouth
[quote]Again... conjecture
This whole board is conjecture except for
your revisionist history of Isiah Wilson's
Freshman year.
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But he'd have to make up a lost season of roughly $1M.
He could more than make that money up by improving his draft status.
quote:WTF are you talking about it's about as far from a "fact" as you could possibly get
It isnt revisionist. It is a fact
You stated the ENTIRE reason for his Redshirt was Thomas and Wynn
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The redshirt was because of isaiah Wynn and Andrew thomas.
It isnt the normal circumstance that a 5 star talent is redshirted because he is behind two first round draft picks.
And I qouted you an article that stated he
had to lose 50 lbs and he wasn't "use to the heat" and then I showed another quote from his OL coach who stated he "wasn't a factor" Those are FACTS and you've stated nothing but conjecture and falsehoods.
BTW this is the definition of a 5 star prospect:
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Day one starting potential as a true Freshman. Prospect is considered a ‘mismatch’ in talent, skill or ability to opposing positions. Prospect has demonstrated outstanding ability, technique and knowledge of the game well beyond his peers and will be an immediate impact player in college.
Andrew Thomas fits this definition.Wilson did not as Freshman and Thomas was a 4 star.Thomas also played against much better HS competition than Wilson.
Kirby gives freshman every opportunity to play and do you really think he redshirts Wilson had he showed up in shape and ready to play? Nonsense
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