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Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:48 pm to Jefferson Dawg
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:48 pm to Jefferson Dawg
Your obsession with music you claim to not care for is... strange.
Can you please contribute to this thread with music you like? Please enlighten us with music you deem worthy of playing in Jefferson Dawg household.
Can you please contribute to this thread with music you like? Please enlighten us with music you deem worthy of playing in Jefferson Dawg household.
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 10:29 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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Artists that sing songs where the MAJORITY of the lyrics are written by someone else:
Phish and the Dead certainly don't belong in that category then. Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:22 pm to Hobnail
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Your obsession with music you claim to not care for is... strange.
You have no idea what youre talking about. Much less what I am talking about. Go spray pachoolie on a hackysack and take your labradoodle named "Marley" for a walk and let the adults continue our conversation. Thanks.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:25 pm to Jefferson Dawg
What's your favorite Phish song Jeff?
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:26 pm to TMDawg
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Phish and the Dead certainly don't belong in that category then.
Yes the do.
I mean, I realize jerry Garcia and the other guy who almost got fired from the dead because he's such a bad guitarist wrote some songs..... but those ones never get played. Overall nobody cares about those songs. And they certainly don't make up the bulk of the setlists of songs played over and over again. Or listened to over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again by the multi-generational cult following.
I'm talking about the songs that bread and butter here.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:28 pm to Jefferson Dawg
I mean the Dead definitely had plenty of covers but the amount of original music they wrote is pretty incredible
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:35 pm to TMDawg
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What's your favorite Phish song
Couldn't say.
It's like in that movie deeprig quoted from earlier in the thread. I remember the Dwight Yoakam character in that movie saying how he gets sick and can't so much as drink a glass of water around midgets or antique furniture.
I'm that exact same way about Phish. And some other things. There's an actual physical repulsion to it for me personally
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:38 pm to TMDawg
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the amount of original music they wrote is pretty incredible
Music sure. But not lyrics.
Either way, for any band to have that big of a following and that much staying power, then they must have done something right.
It's just weird how bands with evern bigger followings who actually write their own lyrics AND music can't be appreciated similiarly due to perceived coolness variables
Posted on 3/15/18 at 11:47 pm to Jefferson Dawg
I guess to me someone like Robert Hunter is part of the band. Sure he wasn't playing an instrument but he had always been friends with them and was included in their writing process. It's not like they were buying canned lyrics from Nashville.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 5:10 am to Jefferson Dawg
Your laughably wrong assumptions and perceptions are only making your asinine talking points even more irrelevant.
Please stay on point- post some music you enjoy. I’m genuinely curious and unlike the rest of your posts it would actually contribute to the thread at hand.
Please stay on point- post some music you enjoy. I’m genuinely curious and unlike the rest of your posts it would actually contribute to the thread at hand.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 5:24 am to TMDawg
Hunter is definitely part of the Dead, to argue otherwise would be ignorant. I get that the music isn’t for everyone, no music is, but hell I’d consider him just as important to the band if not more than Mickey Hart who was actually on stage.
All this back and forth over the value of music based on whether or not someone on stage wrote the words makes me think of The Band. Bob Dylan wrote so many songs specifically for them but I don’t think any less of those songs than the ones written by Robbie Robertson. It certainly doesn’t negatively affect my perception of them.
All this back and forth over the value of music based on whether or not someone on stage wrote the words makes me think of The Band. Bob Dylan wrote so many songs specifically for them but I don’t think any less of those songs than the ones written by Robbie Robertson. It certainly doesn’t negatively affect my perception of them.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 5:32 am to Hobnail
Going in a different direction on this Friday morning- Songs: Ohio - Farewell Transmission
Posted on 3/16/18 at 8:28 am to Hobnail
Posted on 3/16/18 at 10:30 am to Hobnail
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unlike the rest of your posts it would actually contribute to the thread at hand.
Contribute to the thread??
What if i told you Im actually the uncredited outside contractor/lyricist that originally created OPs thread title?.(just ask him).
So how come if a lyricist writes words and a jamband uses it, you strango-jerk to it and pretend it's a normal musical relationship that has no bearing on anything whatsoever? But when I write lyrics that are used by someone else, I'm not allowed any credit and am told I'm not a contributor?
Ha ha ha. Swish. Nothing byut net.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 10:36 am to TMDawg
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It's not like they were buying canned lyrics from Nashville.
How come lyrics that come from Nashville are "canned", but lyrics that come from jamband lyricists are somehow something more respectable?
The fact Jerry Garcia and company can't write good lyrics is no different than any bro country act that can't write good lyrics.
It's simple. They both can't write good lyrics. The end. Whereas there are a whole lot or artists that can sing, play instruments, AND write wholly original lyrics of their own. Unlike the grateful dead.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 10:43 am to Jefferson Dawg
Post some tunes then. I don't give a frick that you came up with the thread, just like I dont care who wrote the lyrics to any given song- someone in the band, someone outside the band, someone not on stage but considered to be part of the band- I don't care as long as I enjoy the version of the song being performed by whoever happens to be playing it.
I think you have proven my point. I don't think any less of this thread as a whole, in fact I thoroughly enjoy finding new music posted by others, some of which I have similar music taste to and others I don't. I've found lots of music I like in similar threads. The fact you came up with the thread/thread title has no bearing on it whether or not it is a good thread- much like whether or not one thinks Robert Hunter is part of the Grateful Dead has no bearing on whether or not they are a good/real/phony/horrible/amazing band.
You seem to find fault in the fact that the Grateful Dead used an "outside contractor" for their lyrics. Does that mean that this thread is invalid/unworthy since deeprig is the OP and not you in this instance?
I think you have proven my point. I don't think any less of this thread as a whole, in fact I thoroughly enjoy finding new music posted by others, some of which I have similar music taste to and others I don't. I've found lots of music I like in similar threads. The fact you came up with the thread/thread title has no bearing on it whether or not it is a good thread- much like whether or not one thinks Robert Hunter is part of the Grateful Dead has no bearing on whether or not they are a good/real/phony/horrible/amazing band.
You seem to find fault in the fact that the Grateful Dead used an "outside contractor" for their lyrics. Does that mean that this thread is invalid/unworthy since deeprig is the OP and not you in this instance?
Posted on 3/16/18 at 1:45 pm to DaveyDownerDawg
Posted on 3/16/18 at 4:43 pm to Jefferson Dawg
quote:Because the Nashville lyrics are written and sold to whatever band wants them whereas the other lyricists you refer to (Hunter for Dead and Marshall for Phish) are/were very closed involved with those bands and were a part of the band. It's not like they were writing lyrics for all these bands and the Dead or Phish happened to buy them. Jerry and Hunter were really good friends just like Trey and Marshall.
How come lyrics that come from Nashville are "canned", but lyrics that come from jamband lyricists are somehow something more respectable?
Posted on 3/16/18 at 6:38 pm to TMDawg
Posted on 3/18/18 at 5:52 pm to TMDawg
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Because the Nashville lyrics are written and sold to whatever band wants them whereas the other lyricists you refer to (Hunter for Dead and Marshall for Phish) are/were very closed involved with those bands and were a part of the band.
Rest assured that the outside contractor lyricists for both those bands got paid for their efforts. Paid very well in fact.
So where does that leave us?
If I’m reading your post correctly, it’s different for jam bands because they are BFFs with their lyrics contractors. Which is hilarious.
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