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re: We’re a blue state now?

Posted on 11/6/20 at 12:36 pm to
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
31566 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 12:36 pm to
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Mail in voting has always existed


quote:

dawgfan24348


typical for your kind
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 12:37 pm to
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Stop conflating absentee voting and junk mail voting (which you guys did continually while debating the issue)


Please clarify the distinction that you're attempting to make. Serious ask. I'm not sure what specific objection people have with how Georgia decided to handle mail in voting. I understand some of the states that sent out unsolicited ballots, but as far as I'm aware, Georgia was not in that list of 9 states + DC.
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5789 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 12:54 pm to
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I understand some of the states that sent out unsolicited ballots, but as far as I'm aware, Georgia was not in that list of 9 states + DC.


Almost every state that did that was already solid blue. Only swing state was Nevada.
Posted by baconwaffle
Houston
Member since Jan 2013
589 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 12:58 pm to
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The saddest part is we lost some quality local leadership simply based on party. Offices below State shouldn’t be partisan.


I couldn't agree more. Danny Porter is one of the best DA's in the country, and he got voted out just because he had a (R) next to his name.
Posted by baconwaffle
Houston
Member since Jan 2013
589 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 1:02 pm to
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It is highly unlikely that Republicans will win another national election unless they evolve into liberal progressives like their Democrat counterparts and compete with the Democrats for offering more government dependency.


Or maybe just tone down the racism. A majority of this country supports right-of-center economic policies.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70658 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 1:02 pm to
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Serious ask. I'm not sure what specific objection people have with how Georgia decided to handle mail in voting. I understand some of the states that sent out unsolicited ballots, but as far as I'm aware, Georgia was not in that list of 9 states + DC.


I will give you a serious answer.

On the surface, there was nothing wrong with how GA handled mail-in voting, because the ballots weren't unsolicited, as you said.

The problem is how they are processed.

When the Fulton County Election Board tells all of the observers to go home for the night, they are shutting it down until the morning, then stay behind and continue to process thousands of paper votes unmonitored, that's the problem.

Notice I said "process" and not "count".

Without accountability and monitoring, how can you certify that result? All the Trump votes fall behind the desk and the janitor accidentally sweeps them up in the night, but damn sure all the Biden votes get counted. Or- the Trump votes that didn't run through the machine the first time go into a rejected pile, while the Biden votes that didn't go through the machine the first time get "cured". Or the Trump vote gets "cured" accidentally for Biden.

The reason for canvasing and observing are to minimize this type of situation.


Update- when Fulton County continued processing votes after telling the observers to go home, it wasn't just unethical, it was a felony. It's state law they broke.

This post was edited on 11/6/20 at 1:06 pm
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
139098 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 1:22 pm to
I'm sure I'll take a lot of abuse for this, but Southern California has had remarkably clearer skies under President Trump. Everyone who's smart enough to realize the overwhelming amount of lines in the sky is not normal contrails, should start documenting a picture of the sky everyday, then compare to the same time of year under Biden.


Posted by Buddy2012
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
2927 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 1:24 pm to
Metro Atlanta out voted the rest of the state
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 1:26 pm to
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quote:
liberal progressive socialist


Dems dont want single payer healthcare?

Which Democrat is against it?
And is that after they were for it before they were against it?
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27837 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 1:33 pm to
Georgia did sent out unsolicited ballots for absentee voting which Republicans in the legislaturd
tried to stop

LINK
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5789 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 1:33 pm to
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Everyone who's smart enough to realize the overwhelming amount of lines in the sky is not normal contrails

Chemtrail guy.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70658 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 1:35 pm to
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Georgia did sent out unsolicited ballots for absentee voting which Republicans in the legislaturd
tried to stop


That was for the primaries brah. Gotta read your shite before you post your shite.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
10737 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 1:45 pm to
Agree. What made Trump different is he isn't a politician. What lost him the election is he isn't a politician. He needed just a bit more subtlety. Reality is his actions are pretty strong. It is the rhetoric that cost him. But God bless him for going after the media.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70658 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 1:46 pm to
Do yall remember that time up in Michigan when they released 134,000 new results between 3am and 7 am, and every single one of them was for Biden? Literally not one single vote for Trump, in a competitive swing state that is almost 50/50, not one single vote in a dump of 134,000 results for Trump.

It was three nights ago, and I still remember.

Posted by baconwaffle
Houston
Member since Jan 2013
589 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 1:53 pm to
Remember that time in Arizona when Biden was up by over 100,000, and now Trump votes are miraculously coming up out of nowhere!

It was three nights ago, and I still remember.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70658 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 1:55 pm to
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Remember that time in Arizona when Biden was up by over 100,000, and now Trump votes are miraculously coming up out of nowhere!


In one night, with zero Biden votes mixed in? Wrong. If the republicans are running a scam in Arizona, at least they are doing it right, with plenty of plausible deniablity.
Posted by baconwaffle
Houston
Member since Jan 2013
589 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 1:56 pm to
Do you have evidence there were ZERO Trump votes that came in, in Michigan? I would love to see it.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 1:58 pm to
Appreciate it. As you know, I don't get on here just to stir shite up (at least most of the time ), I'll listen to anything that is well reasoned and backed up.

I haven't seen this story confirmed, but if it happened as you stated (which I'm not arguing that it didn't, just that I personally hadn't seen that story described - if you have a link would be appreciated) that's problematic (and frankly should be independent of your affiliation). Not because it is proof that something malicious happened in and of itself, but simply that there is no reason (at least not a good one) to process things unobserved. Counting ballots should be a pretty straightforward thing. Time consuming, but nothing inherently difficult about it.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70658 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 1:59 pm to
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Do you have evidence there were ZERO Trump votes that came in, in Michigan? I would love to see it.


Would time stamped screenshots from the NYT election tracker suffice?
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70658 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 2:00 pm to
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I haven't seen this story confirmed, but if it happened as you stated (which I'm not arguing that it didn't, just that I personally hadn't seen that story described - if you have a link would be appreciated)


Would a tweet from the Chairman of the GA Republican Party saying his people were told to leave at night, but in the morning the precict released thousands more results of paper ballots suffice?
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